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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: JDC on Tuesday 05 March 19 14:40 GMT (UK)
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Good day everyone,
I am attempting to trace my great uncle, Paul Panasuk, who married my grandmother's sister Mary Rayment. This fellow's history is very elusive to me although I used to visit them in Hamilton Ontario when I was a boy during the 1960s and early 70s. At that time I believe he was retired (from what i do not know). My great aunt Mary was born 1904.
I do know from family discussions Paul was born in the Ukraine and escaped from there during the revolution to come to Canada. I do have pictures of him from my mom during his younger years as well as my own when I went to annual family reunions during his older years. His death is a bit of a mystery as well since the cemetery he was supposed buried in do not records of him being buried there after his cremation. I am guessing he arrived in Canada between the 2 world wars and married Mary just before or after WW2. Unfortunately I have not found their marriage record. I believe he died during the late 1970 or early 80s. Mary died in 1994 about a dacade after Paul.
Any info regarding my great uncle is appreciated.
JDC
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Hi,
There is an obit in the Toronto Star, 31 Jan 1975, page B6.
It says he died in Toronto on 29 Jan 1975. In his 72nd year. Husband of Mary, father of L, grandfather of D. Cremation at St. James the Less.
RK
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Looks like the son L. played football in high school - at Central Tech in Toronto. Then, he went on to play college football at East Texas State in the USA. There are a few articles mentioning him.
RK
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Mary's obituary is in the Toronto Star...16 Aug 1986, page B7.
It says she died in Toronto on 14 Aug 1986. Husband of the late Paul Panasuk, mother of L, grandmother of D. Interment Mount Pleasant Cemetery.
RK
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Here is Mary's burial information from Mount Pleasant Cemetery
http://www.finditatmpg.com/Details.aspx?GID=w39pYwPiXBW%2bK40112U7yg%3d%3d
Paul doesn't appear to be there...
RK
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1964 Toronto Directory has
Paul Panasuk, employee of CNR, home 75 Brunswick. His son L. is also listed at this address.
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1964/page/1006
Paul worked for the railroad...
RK
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1958 directory - Paul is at the same address, and it says he is an employee of the CNR.
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1958/page/1166
1950 - same address, same job
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1950/page/1196
You can check directories for other years here...
https://www.torontopubliclibrary.ca/history-genealogy/lh-digital-city-directories.jsp
RK
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1945 Toronto directory has him as Paul Panasuka, emp of CNR, address 16 Kensington Ave.
https://archive.org/details/torontocitydirectory1945/page/n1299
RK
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Hi RunKitty,
Sorry I have been away without any access to this for a while. I knew Paul and his wife Mary all my life and as far as I know he and/or she never lived in Toronto. I have always known them to live in Hamilton Ontario. They both died in Hamilton and buried in Hamilton at Whitechapple cemetery there. Mary was born in Hamilton. However when I checked there, I was told neither one is actually buried there. I am wondering if they were given to a family member and has since gone into hiding?
I dont know when and where this pair marries, I am attempting to find out. Unfortunately everyone from that generation is gone now.
I'll keep pressing on, thx again
JDC
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PS, As far as I know this pair didn't have any children together. I did hear he had a daughter when he was in the Ukraine.
JDC
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How very unusual......
There seem to be 2 couples with the same names, one in Toronto and the other in Hamilton.
1968 voters list, Toronto......has Paul Panasuk, a railroader, and Mary. Address 75 Brunswick Av.
1968 voters list, Hamilton......has Paul Panasuk, retired, and Mary. Address 196 Rosewood Road.
PB
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I'm wondering if there are two pairs of Paul and Mary Panasuk?
There is a Paul and Mary Panasuk, in 1965 in Hamilton at 196 Rosewood Ave. Paul is retired, and living at the same address there is also a widowed Kathryn Strongman.
Does that street name ring a bell?
Edit: Polarbear wins by 11 seconds!
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I've been trawling passenger lists, and there was a lot of Panasiuk folks coming from that area to Canada via Southampton, UK in that time frame. Most are Polish, but there is one that stands out a bit, (especially with you mentioning a daughter) which might be worth keeping on the back burner.
Ship: Empress of Scotland, Southampton 07 Jul 1928 to Quebec
Pavel Panasiuk, age 24, married,
Country and place of birth: Ukraine, Vil. Logvin
Nationality: Russian
Race of people: Ukranian
What language: Ukr. Russian
What trade did you follow in your own country: farming
What trade do you intend to follow in Canada: farming (pretty much the standard reply for all of them on board)
Destination (name relative/employer, etc): c/o Mr. C. A. Van Secy, Land Dept. C.P.R. Winnipeg. (same as many on board)
Give name, relationship and address of your nearest relative in the country from which you came. If a wife or children are to follow you later to Canada, give names and ages:
wife Anna age 27, children Ekaterina 9 mos
res. at Vil. Logvin, distr. Skvira, Gov. Kiev, Ukraine
Passport number, place and date of issue:
144080 Kiev 23.5.28
Action taken and civil examiner:
Landed immigrant
If it IS him, I'm guessing Anna didn't join him? I've been able to rule some out, and most of them have their first name as "Pawel". I haven't been able to tell if Pawel= Polish and Pavel = Ukranian; it seems to be a mixed bag. I did match a Panasiuk to a Panasuk in BC, so that i must be a variable, depending on who was taking the information?
I think the daughter's name is just Katerina, and the typist hit the K key twice. Depending how on much you zoom, the first letter varies between looking like a K or an E. (but I have horrible eyesight, so....:
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Very minor mentions in the Social Column, but maybe you will recognize who they are visiting:
http://news.haltonhills.halinet.on.ca/91080/page/297949?q=text%3A%28panasuk%29
http://news.haltonhills.halinet.on.ca/91297/page/300756?q=text%3A%28panasuk%29
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1972 voter list, both still on Rosewood with an Henri Paquette, waiter living with them.
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Hope this link takes you to the right page:
https://archive.org/details/1952VernonsHamiltonCityDirectory/page/n593
Looks like Paul ran "Paul's Fish and Chips"!
I haven't checked the other years: https://archive.org/details/@hamilton_public_library_-_local_history_amp_archives
Edit: I couldn't resist.... here are a few other years, and it looks like prior to being with Mary, he was spelling his surname as Panasiuk
https://archive.org/details/1938VernonsHamiltonCityDirectory/page/n943
https://archive.org/details/1941VernonsHamiltonCityDirectory/page/n907
https://archive.org/details/1944VernonsHamiltonCityDirectory/page/n501
https://archive.org/details/1946VernonsHamiltonCityDirectory/page/n665
https://archive.org/details/1957VernonsHamiltonCityDirectory/page/n659 Pauls Brbr and billiards Is Brbr = barber?
https://archive.org/details/1958VernonsHamiltonCityDirectory/page/n683 Paul's Billiards also a Robert Panasuk there in apt 3
https://archive.org/details/1964VernonsHamiltonCityDirectory/page/n687
https://archive.org/details/1965VernonsHamiltonCityDirectory/page/n707
https://archive.org/details/1969VernonsHamiltonCityDirectory/page/n609
My eyes are done for the day, but if you check the ones I didn't link, you might be able to figure out when Mary entered the picture, and hopefully some clue as to who Robert is.
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They both died in Hamilton and buried in Hamilton at Whitechapple cemetery there. Mary was born in Hamilton. However when I checked there, I was told neither one is actually buried there.
According to OCFA, Mary is there. Maybe his urn was buried with her?
http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php
PANASUK, Mary I. - White Chapel Memorial Gardens - Wentworth- Hamilton-HM-167
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There is a Miss Mary Rayment, teacher, Mountain Sanitorium, Wentworth in the 1940 voters list.
Looking at the directory entries posted by bbart.....
Paul seems to be rooming alone in 1941 and Mary is with him in the 1944 entry so they appear to have married between these years. Unfortunately, I believe marriages in this time frame are protected by privacy laws.
PB
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Hi folks,
Sorry i hve been away for a while again. I will thoroughly read you comments tonite and get back to you, cheers for now.
JDC
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Hi everyone,
Thank you all for the help you have provided. The info has confirmed what I know from personal experience and what my parents told me about. It has also provided me with new information as well. I had no idea where Paul came from in the Ukraine, when he came to Canada and the name of his wife. By the way, Kathryn Strongman is Mary's aunt and her maiden name is Coy. I didn't know Kathryn stayed with Mary and Paul. I did know they would room people from time to time. Mary was a teacher at the sanatorium, That is where she met Paul I am told. I am also told that Mary was also taking care of her younger sister Pauline at the sanitarium where she was being treated for TB. Pauline died in her 20s.
The marriage date for this couple has been narrowed as you indicated. The privacy law I believe is at 1935 or 1940 so their marriage record should become public soon. So it appears that they married during WW2. I doubt that Paul would have been allowed by our government to join the forces if he was not yet a Canadian citizen? I am wondering why Anna and Katrina didn't join him - perhaps thee Soviet government kept them there, like they didn't allow Paul to visit his daughter (told this from cousin) not to long before he passed - he sat at the Russian airport waiting for her, but she was not allowed to see her father. I am assuming for now that Anna had likely passed. More questions to be answered :-(
I knew about Paul owning the Billiards place from my dad before he passed, but i didn't know about the barber and the fish and chip businesses. Mary and Paul did reside in their home on Rosewood, I did visit them their when I was young,
I guess the next step for me is to speak again with family members at the reunion in August to help enlighten me on this couple. I will be also revisit the Whitechapple Cemetery for the same reason.
Thx again everyone.
JDC