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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: jinks on Saturday 09 March 19 08:52 GMT (UK)
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I've been doing some research in to a Lehan / Lehane / Leaghan and and eventually Levison (this family is the bane of my life at the moment)
But couldn't find them in the 1861 Census Today I found them transcribed as Sehan - maybe just a mistranscription but my confusion is now due to the Son in Law?? or daughter for that matter
Census 1861 Waterside, Great Bolton, Lancashire, England
:Andrew Seahan Head M 32 Ireland
:Mary Seahan Wife F 26 Ireland
:Mary Seahan Daughter F 4 Ormskirk, Lancashire
:Sarah Seahan Daughter F 1 Ormskirk, Lancashire
:Peter Ward Son In Law M 35 Ireland
:Bridget Ward Daughter F 28 Ireland
:John Horan Boarder M 20 Ireland
Mary's maiden name could be Horan - along with Haran / Haren / Arden!!
So I will be looking into John
BUT really don't understand the Son in law reference
Brother in Law / Sister would be the only thing I can assume
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I presume you have checked the GRO website for the births of those children born in Ormskirk? That should give you the MMN, hopefully correctly :P
And 'son-in-law' is no odder than 'daughter' to whom he is presumably married? I would guess that relationship must be to the parents of the 'head' or his wife?
EDIT - I've just had a look and can't find any matches for Seahan, Sehan or Leahan ...
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There's 1857 (lancsbmd)
LEAGHAN Mary HORAN Ormskirk Preston OK/9/67
Freebmd Births Dec 1857 Leaghan Mary Ormskirk 8b 527
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Could it be intended to be brother in law? Did Andrew, the head of household, have a sister called Bridget?
Or .... did the household run over the page, and Andrew is mistakenly listed as “head”?
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Oh they are all there
I kid you not
Children
:1857 LEAGHAN Mary HORAN Ormskirk Preston OK/9/67
:1860 LAYIN Sarah FODEN Ormskirk Preston OK/10/77
:1865 Catherine - No valid Birth Register Entry found
:1868 LANE Bridget HAREN Ormskirk Preston OK/14/54
:1871 LEIGH Ann ARDEN Ormskirk Preston OK/15/73
:1875 LEHAN Sarah HAREN Ormskirk Preston OK/17/2
:1877 LEHANE Michael HAREN Ormskirk Preston OK/18/52
And census Lehan and also Lehane then they become Levison
I was just wondering about Son in Law! I am wondering if this is the Irish sense of humour
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Could it be intended to be brother on law? Did Andrew, the head of household, have a sister called Bridget?
Or .... did the household run over the page, and Andrew is mistakenly listed as “head”?
I do like the idea of Bridget being a Sister, one of Andrew's Children (not this one obviously) ::) is Bridget - I will see if I can find a marriage
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Oh they are all there
I kid you not
I was just wondering about Son in Law! I am wondering if this is the Irish sense of humour
That all just goes to show that if the informants cannot say how their names are spelt, the enumerator can only try to put down what he hears - in this case in some sort of Irish accent. Which we all know can vary a good deal from North to South (and flavour of religion). It must be next to impossible to track this family when spellings are so unpredictable.
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It's been fun ::) Luckily Andrew Lehan / Lehane / Levison does state in one Census County Mayo and his wife also, a later Census his Wife also states Westport - and yes there's a Westport in County Mayo so I think that's correct - Also almost positive they are Irish Catholic not found any marriages in a Parish Church even though some English Catholics did marry in them.
Just had a look for a Peter Ward marriage to Bridget only found one ESNE in 1853 Ormskirk not to happy with it, but made a note can't find the family Peter / Bridget with any certainty after The couple in Northumberland are a slim possibility (could have been counted twice in 1861) but again not with any certainty Also found one back in Ireland in 1911 - at this point no Certainties :(
Andrew Tarr yes it is a little challenging, I have no idea which 'Surname' to try.
I mentioned that I couldn't find a Catherine Lehane - I actually have found one - but its LOGAN and CathArine - think the Maiden name is O'ROUKE both not too far from Lehan and Horen/ Haren / Horan.
Because of EVERY Census / Birth Registration / Marriage (Leighen) being different then I am beginning to believe there might have been some trouble back home :o They only constant seems to be when the surname changes to Levison - Heywood found me another family (I had seen them) that also changed their name from Lehan to Levison
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And then you have to allow for the mistranscriptions ....
I recently came up against a family from county Clare who had fetched up in the lead-mining parts of Durham/Northumberland. After a while their name settled down as Hahir, though it is more commonly Hehir or Hare in England. Needless to say there were variations.
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Bridget Lehane might have been a widow that married a Peter Ward? So her surname could be different at marriage?
free bdm
Marriages Dec 1853
ERNE Bridget Ormskirk 8b 879
(Erne is a bit different from ESNE)
Erne and Esne don't seem to appear at the Lancashire OPC at all (makes you wonder if it is a correct surname??)
Did they have any children registered at the GRO?
Are they in the 1871 census?
They may have wed in England, Ireland or even Scotland?
amended could she have been Bridget Horan married to a Peter Ward?
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That looks quite possible when you see Lancashire BMD - Erne ...Horan :-\
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I'm sure I've seen son in law for step son before
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Yes that is used often but the ages in this case don’t fit for either scenario.
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I double checked the LancashireBMD that does state ESNE so not completely losing it ::)
But Erne is more like Horan/Haren etc
I have searched for Peter and Bridget possibles (But none were near certainties) Northumberland if you taken into consideration of 1861 being a duplication (I know it does happen especially when people are resident at one address and visit someone else) and also 1911 in Ireland but really they are shots in the dark
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Ok Just found a Baptism for Rosanna daughter of Peter and Bridget - maiden name EGAN
::) Why or why couldn't it be something absolutely different!
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oh and Thomas son of Peter and Bridget maiden name Hagan ::)
I can see a pattern forming