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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: AllanUK on Sunday 10 March 19 14:24 GMT (UK)
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An ancestor describes herself as being from Preston Mill in the parish of Ellingham, Northumberland. Does anyone know anything about a mill in that area?
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Curiousfox doesn't have any hamlet like Preston / Preston Mill within 10 miles of Ellingham.
Which resource does this relate to?
https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/417500/625500/10/101337
Preston on that looks more like a country estate of some kind
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There's a Preston about 1km east os Ellingham, found on Bing Maps (OS). Pretty small but Preston Mains and Preston Smithy are named. No reason why there might not be a mill thereabouts
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I googled it and Preston Tower came up with a reference to Preston Mains but I can't find it now! ::)
Maybe Preston Chathill NE67 5DH
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See https://maps.nls.uk/view/132265691#zoom=3&lat=9274&lon=2771&layers=BT
side by side https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=55.5237&lon=-1.7098&layers=168&right=BingHyb
Stan
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There's a Preston about 1km east os Ellingham, found on Bing Maps (OS). Pretty small but Preston Mains and Preston Smithy are named. No reason why there might not be a mill thereabouts
The 1900 25-inch map of the area (online) shows Preston Tower with a few buildings, one labelled Engine Shed (no railway anywhere near!) but no evidence of a mill or any significant stream to run a watermill. I guess there may have been a windmill, or perhaps it is referring to the engine shed?
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The 1900 25-inch map of the area (online) shows Preston Tower with a few buildings, one labelled Engine Shed (no railway anywhere near!) but no evidence of a mill or any significant stream to run a watermill. I guess there may have been a windmill, or perhaps it is referring to the engine shed?
These are shown on the link I gave side by side https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=55.5237&lon=-1.7098&layers=168&right=BingHyb
Stan
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Genuki lists Preston as being 0.6 miles from Ellingham.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/gazetteer/nearby?place=NBLEllingham&distance=1&unit=miles
Carol
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Here's another map for your collection
Sorry, that one didn't work.
Carol
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I think we need to see the source of the name, is it from the census or a Parish Register. In queries of this nature, in my experience, it is useful to see the original source of the name.
Stan
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Hi Stan,
The declaration of her birth place is from both parish records and Census returns.
Allan
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Are we allowed to know her name?
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In the 1881 Census there is an Ann Keirs [Ann Anderson] who was born in Preston Mill RG11; Piece: 5115; Folio: 15; Page: 7
Stan
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My grandfather was born in Preston, Northumberland in 1869. The family were all miners so there must have been a pit there.
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My grandfather was born in Preston, Northumberland in 1869. The family were all miners so there must have been a pit there.
There is more than one Preston in Northumberland. The one you refer to is more than likely the one which near Tynemouth. https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Tynemouth
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Thanks JenB. I have dug out the birth certificate and it is indeed the registration district of Tynemouth, sub-district North Shields. I do remember being told that my grandfather was born near Morpeth, which seems a wee bit away but I suppose the certificate must be correct.
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In the 1881 Census there is an Ann Keirs [Ann Anderson] who was born in Preston Mill RG11; Piece: 5115; Folio: 15; Page: 7
Stan
Tracing that one back the birthplace changes to Carham in earlier censuses :-\
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In the 1881 Census there is an Ann Keirs [Ann Anderson] who was born in Preston Mill RG11; Piece: 5115; Folio: 15; Page: 7
Stan
Tracing that one back the birthplace changes to Carham in earlier censuses :-\
The person Stan refers to is with her mother Phyllis, and earlier censuses show her father to be John.
Ann Anderson, daughter of Phillis and John, baptised Carham, abode Presson Hill, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-64V3-JHS?i=182&cc=1309819&cat=1804230
Allan, is this the same person?
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In the 1881 Census there is an Ann Keirs [Ann Anderson] who was born in Preston Mill RG11; Piece: 5115; Folio: 15; Page: 7
Stan
Tracing that one back the birthplace changes to Carham in earlier censuses :-\
The person Stan refers to is with her mother Phyllis, and earlier censuses show her father to be John.
Ann Anderson, daughter of Phillis and John, baptised Carham, abode Presson Hill, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-64V3-JHS?i=182&cc=1309819&cat=1804230
Allan, is this the same person?
I hope I am on the right track. (If not it's been interesting anyway)
Here is Pressen, complete with its Mill Lead
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=55.6162&lon=-2.2616&layers=6&right=BingHyb
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In the 1881 Census there is an Ann Keirs [Ann Anderson] who was born in Preston Mill RG11; Piece: 5115; Folio: 15; Page: 7
Preston Mill could be the enumerators interpretation of Presson Hill from the Household Schedule.
Stan
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It was called Preston on Armstrong's 1769 map of Northumberland (bottom r-h corner of map).
But I still don't know if we're actually following the correct person ::)
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Hi all,
Just back after a few days away.
A friend who lives in the northern part of Northumberland believes that a mill called Fallodon Mill (approx. 1 mile south east of Preston hamlet) used to be referred to as Preston Mill. Guess I'll never be able to prove this unless the Northumberland Archives can assist.
Allan