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Title: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: MrSaunders on Sunday 17 March 19 03:06 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know if there is a researched list of the participants of these two battles? I expect Bannockburn would be the bigger challenge being 1314 as supposed to Culloden in 1746. There a few mentioned of casualties on their Wikipedia pages but I wondered if perhaps an academic study had taken place? Any thoughts, comments welcome!
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 17 March 19 07:34 GMT (UK)
Apart from the nobility you can forget Bannockburn. Culloden is different, the Jacobites were regimented & the Muster-rolls (such as they are) are detailed in "No Quarter Given!" by editors Livingstone, Aikman & Hart.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: RickiO on Sunday 07 April 19 05:53 BST (UK)
I've managed to find this book that has been preserved by the Google archiving project. The book is called 'A List of Persons Concerned in the Rebellion'. It appears to have been printed in 1890 with the information taken from various transcripts, etc available at the time. It can be read online at: https://archive.org/details/alistpersonscon00excigoog

Even found a few members from branches of my own family tree in there. Quite interesting.
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 07 April 19 08:07 BST (UK)
Nice find Ricki!

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: MrSaunders on Sunday 07 April 19 08:09 BST (UK)
Thanks Skoosh and Ricki - both books look excellent. Given the dates I'm going to focus on Culloden! Any other books or resources out there that list the people and families involved in both sides of Culloden?
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 07 April 19 08:17 BST (UK)
@ Mr Saunders, off the top of my head, Maggie Craig has a couple of good reads, "Damned Rebel Bitches!" Women of the '45, & "Bare-Arsed Banditti!"

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: RickiO on Sunday 07 April 19 10:51 BST (UK)
The National Archives website has a section dedicated to the Jacobite uprisings at: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/jacobite-1745/

Appears to have a lot of documents including lists of prisoners, fighters, letters, maps, etc. This might help a bit.
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: MrSaunders on Sunday 07 April 19 10:53 BST (UK)
Thanks Ricki. I just found this project which is very near what I was hoping to do. I will make contact with the owner. Thought you both might like to see it - https://jdb1745.net
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: RickiO on Sunday 07 April 19 10:55 BST (UK)
Nice find. Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 07 April 19 11:20 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Mister, will fill a few hours kid!  ;D

Bests,

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: alexandramac on Thursday 12 August 21 12:15 BST (UK)
Hello from Australia.  I visted Culloden in 2019 with daughter and adult grandson and it was a  very moving experience for all of us as we have three Fraser brothers ancestors killed at Culloden.  I have only just found out their first names.  They were born Kilvarock....Alexander in 1727, Donald 1721 and Hugh 1723.  Their surviving brother James my 4 xggrandfather was born in 1725.  Their father was Alexander Fraser or McIan born 1695 Kilvarock. Mother unknown . Their parents died in 1740. This information is as accurate as far as I know.  I do not know how to find them listed in the battle  as I am unfamiliar with places there or how they may be listed.  I am wondering if there is any way to know if James was at the battle with his brothers and survived.  James descendants are buried. at Wardlaw Kirkhill.  Would anyone be able to help me find out anything about them please.
Title: Re: Culloden and Bannockburn
Post by: RobertHauteville on Tuesday 31 January 23 17:04 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know if there is a researched list of the participants of these two battles? I expect Bannockburn would be the bigger challenge being 1314 as supposed to Culloden in 1746. There a few mentioned of casualties on their Wikipedia pages but I wondered if perhaps an academic study had taken place? Any thoughts, comments welcome!

The Chronicles tend to list only high status leaders & prisoners but you can get a fair idea of the run of the mill Norman knights from the summons and protection lists in the Patent Rolls, etc, issued at the start of the campaign. As to the many archers, billmen & servants forget it.

If you are really interested read "Bannockburn: The Scottish War and the British Isles" by Michael Brown & "Bannockburn: Battle for Liberty" by John Sadler to get more ideas. They both include references to original sources.