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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: tom58l on Sunday 17 March 19 21:52 GMT (UK)
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Hi there - first time poster here!
I've been having loads of fun working through my family history and was trying to order a marriage certificate for my great-grandfather. I struggled to find his record and after some searching I finally found it on FreeBMD. The problem is, that his details are hand-written at the bottom of the record, and I can make out all of the information except for the page number (it looks like the transcriber had the same issue - it's just marked with an * in the transcription). I've attached a picture of the scribble so you can see what I mean.
I was wondering if it's still possible for me to order this record from the GRO, or will they just get back to me saying they couldn't find it (as they will be looking at the same illegible numbers I am)? Or do they have another way to find the record?
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Hello tom!
What's his surname, please?
Bev
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Hi Bev, his surname is Turner, first names Frederick Milton.
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Hi Tom581,
A very warm welcome to RootsChat!
What was the name of your great grandmother (Frederick's wife)? We may be able to determine the page number through her marriage index entry.
Kind regards
David
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Hi David, and thankyou!
Frederick's wife was Anna Taylor, they married in 1901. I've tried to find a marriage entry, but couldn't find anything at all for Anna, though admittedly I'm still new at this...!
Thanks again.
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Hi Tom581,
From FreeBMD:
Milton, Frederick Turner to Taylor, Hannah; June Qtr 1901; Wolverhampton Reg Dist; Volume 6b Page 1107.
Anna can quite often be a shortening of the name Hannah. Have instances of this in my own tree!
Occasionally, Surnames & middle names can get switched around for some reason by some folk! ::)
Hope this helps anyway.
Kind regards
David
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Gosh thankyou so much - that has had me stumped for so long. It always seems obvious afterwards!
Much appreciated!
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I may just be about to confuse things....
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Hi Jomot,
I may just be about to confuse things....
I Have just done a quick check on freebmd using the reg dist, month & year and volume & page numbers and it comes up with no matches for volume 6b page 1106a. I agree that it does say page 1106a, but as I've already stated there appears to be no matches for that page number, most odd! Perhaps the page number has been incorrectly recorded?
I would suggest to tom581 that he goes with the page 1107 from my previous post.
Kind regards
David
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I see that the marriage is on a typed list for Hannah but for Frederick his is a handwritten addition at the bottom of the typed page.
I would agree with David and go with the 1107 page number.
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Interesting....
Ancestry have the two names together on their marriage information
Records on Page:
Name
John James Henley
Frederick Turner Milton
Ada Mary Player
Hannah Taylor
And they have page 1107 for Fred
Name: Frederick Turner Milton
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1107
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Any idea why that would happen? I've really struggled to find any records on Hannah Taylor, there's no birth or death records that I can find, could this be related to that?
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'Her' birth is as Anna Taylor - Dec.1879 Cannock - mmn Weate.
Her parents were William Turner and Harriet Weate.
A tree on Ancestry also has these details and shows that her birthdate was 10/10/1879 and that she is listed as Anna Milton Turner in 1939.
Her death entry is indexed as Anna M Turner and Anna Milton-Turner - June quarter 1966 Seisdon, Staffordshire aged 86.
Annette
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Thankyou - yes that tree on Ancestry is probably the one I'm working on at the moment! I took her birth from the 1939 census. I've tried to find the birth and death records on Ancestry, but had no luck, which is infuriating considering I know the details but can't find the record! May I ask, did you find those records on Ancestry or somewhere else?
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Might be worth a postem on freebmd for Frederick, so there will not be confusion in the future?
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I believe you should be able to order the cert with just Hannah's particulars. If you were to also include Frederick, you would need to put his particulars as they are in the index, the apparent error notwithstanding.
The image of the typed version on FreeBMD certainly has Frederick's names transposed. This would be the record the index entry was produced from. This particular page doesn't have his name handwritten in at the bottom.
PB
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Thanks PB, yes that's what I've done. I didn't even include Frederick on there at all, just Hannah's details with the index from her marriage. Fingers crossed it will work!
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Thankyou - yes that tree on Ancestry is probably the one I'm working on at the moment! I took her birth from the 1939 census. I've tried to find the birth and death records on Ancestry, but had no luck, which is infuriating considering I know the details but can't find the record! May I ask, did you find those records on Ancestry or somewhere else?
Found on Ancestry.
Annette