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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: SelDen on Sunday 24 March 19 22:03 GMT (UK)

Title: Buckingham Place
Post by: SelDen on Sunday 24 March 19 22:03 GMT (UK)

Hello

Could someone help locate Buckingham Place in London? It is the address given on an 1842 birth cert. Father was in the Horse Guards, so it may be near Buckingham Palace.

Thanks for any help.

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 24 March 19 22:55 GMT (UK)

Which Buckingham Place? There are 6 in the 1851 London census. What was the registration district?

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: SelDen on Sunday 24 March 19 23:03 GMT (UK)

Sorry.

it was the North East district of St Luke Chelsea.

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 25 March 19 07:05 GMT (UK)

Would that be in SW1?

If so, it was renamed Buckingham Street some time between 1929 and 1945.

See:  https://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/Streets/New_to_Old_London_Street_Name_Changes.htm

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: SelDen on Monday 25 March 19 07:28 GMT (UK)

Hello - thank you very much. That list is a great resource. I suppose it is just a question of whether that is the Buckingham Place intended by the birth cert, given Shaun’s comment there were six different n 1851.

I don’t know London well so am not sure about postcodes or districts. A quick google suggests Chelsea is SW3 and SW10.

On modern maps it looks as if a possible Buckingham St (ex Place) is not far from the Strand?

Thanks again.

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 25 March 19 08:38 GMT (UK)

Per my 1856 PO Directory, Buckingham Place in Chelsea was a stretch of the north side of Marlborough Road, between James Street and Green Street.

Marlborough Road is now Draycott Avenue.

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: SelDen on Monday 25 March 19 08:45 GMT (UK)

Thanks Shaun, will hunt it down

Your help is much appreciated.

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: cristeen on Monday 25 March 19 08:51 GMT (UK)

Walking through the 1851 census, Buckingham Place is surrounded by Orford Place, Wood Street, Cadogan Street and Marlborough Road so I reckon this area
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=51.4927&lon=-0.1636&layers=163&b=3

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: SelDen on Monday 25 March 19 09:03 GMT (UK)

Thank you Cristeen, most helpful.

I see a smithy and a sawmill not too far away - a far cry from the same area in 2019, but reassures me that my family (in humble circumstances) could have lived there.

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: cristeen on Monday 25 March 19 09:16 GMT (UK)

Here's a possibility :)
https://maps.nls.uk/view/103313072

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 25 March 19 09:44 GMT (UK)

Yes you can clearly see James Street and Green Street on the 25 inch map https://maps.nls.uk/view/103313072#zoom=7&lat=11141&lon=6804&layers=BT

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: SelDen on Monday 25 March 19 14:57 GMT (UK)

That’s wonderful, thank you both very much

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: Viktoria on Tuesday 26 March 19 10:11 GMT (UK)

Do you know- I did not read that properly and my mind saw what I expected to see, ie Buckingham Palace!
Wondered why that address  ::)
Viktoria.

Title: Re: Buckingham Place
Post by: SelDen on Wednesday 27 March 19 04:57 GMT (UK)

I have been having that problem with predictive text and Google maps - but happily Shaun and cristeen have come up trumps  :D

The father on the birth cert was in the Blues. I think he dazzled my young 3 times great grandmother with his fancy uniform (and illogically I feel sure he also had a villainous moustache to twirl) but later abandoned her and my 2 x great grandfather without ever marrying her.