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Title: Army WW2
Post by: jck1103 on Thursday 28 March 19 17:27 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help please, I have a marriage in Wales in 1945. The groom states that he’s a private gives a number which I assume is his army number, and then the abbreviation HCC, does anyone know what this stands for ? His address was Eniskillen where he was born if that’s any help. Thank you
Jacky
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: deebel on Saturday 30 March 19 22:28 GMT (UK)
I'm not an authority however it may be something related to e.g. Headquarters Command? Coy.

deebel
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: jck1103 on Sunday 31 March 19 19:22 BST (UK)
Thank you, I’ll have a look at that  :)
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: MaxD on Sunday 31 March 19 19:29 BST (UK)
What is the army number?  There is an outside chance that will point towards his regiment or corps.


MaxD
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: jck1103 on Sunday 31 March 19 23:46 BST (UK)
Marriage certificate under rank or profession it says Private no:7046058 HCC would be grateful for any help, not that good with war stuff !
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: Jebber on Monday 01 April 19 00:05 BST (UK)
The block of numbers  7040001 to7075000  were allocated to the Royal Irish Fusiliers, no help in answering what HCC stands for.
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: macwil on Monday 01 April 19 00:57 BST (UK)
How about Household Cavalry?

Edit: maybe not, Fusiliers were Infantry not Cavalry.
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: MaxD on Monday 01 April 19 09:39 BST (UK)
Marriage certificates are notorious for a) badly written military terms that are capable of mistranscription/misinterpretation and b) terms concocted by well meaning civilian minds that aren't proper terminology.

HCC is not a term that makes any sense in conjunction with a service number in a column for a man's rank.  Is the HCC 100% clear or could it be something else LCpl for example? Might be worth posting a clip?

MaxD
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: jck1103 on Monday 01 April 19 19:38 BST (UK)
Thank you very much  ;) Irish Fusiliers makes sense.  HCC is clearly written, for once I got a certificate that was easy to read ! Still a puzzle though......
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: deebel on Monday 01 April 19 22:45 BST (UK)
Would he need permission to marry? How about "Has CO consent" ?
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: jck1103 on Tuesday 02 April 19 07:38 BST (UK)
The marriage took place in May 1945 in Pembroke, he’s still in the armed forces so it could mean consent from co. I will have to look at that option. He’s proving to be a very tricky customer to research ! Being born in Ireland in 1922 doesn’t help  :)
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 02 April 19 09:36 BST (UK)
His service record may solve the puzzle, have you considered applying for it?

MaxD
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: jck1103 on Tuesday 02 April 19 17:01 BST (UK)
Not sure where to apply for his service record, can you advise please ?
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 02 April 19 17:06 BST (UK)
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records

Do ask further if the forms cause difficulty.

MaxD
Title: Re: Army WW2
Post by: jck1103 on Tuesday 02 April 19 18:00 BST (UK)
Thank you ! Will let you know how I get on  :)