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Title: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: Romilly on Friday 12 April 19 09:50 BST (UK)
Mary Emma Williams, Born 18th December 1848, Llanedy, Carmarthenshire.

She Married Louis William Howell on the 27th June 1878 in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.

She Died on the 1st October 1926 in Roosevelt, Duchesne, Utah, USA.

I'm trying to find her with her Parents on the 1851 Census, and also, (if possible) on Passenger Lists from Wales to the USA.

Cheers, Romilly.
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: jui on Friday 12 April 19 10:37 BST (UK)
Hello Romilly.
                I found  a Mary Williams 1851  census  born 1849 Lanedy (misspelt by familysearch.org ) parents william and Hannah , dates are not always accurate  .. the place is usually spelt LLanedi.
                Williams mother is Lettysia  a widow living with them.  not sure if your Mary.. still trawling for you.. goodluck..just found a mary williams 1861 llandey census.. and 1871 residing in scotland.
               
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: ColC on Friday 12 April 19 10:53 BST (UK)
The 1851 in Llanedy, that Mary became a school mistress and is still there in 1881.

I note trees on Ancestry record her parents as Evan & Sarah, there are two 1851 censuses for Evan & Sarah with a daughter Mary but neither born in Llanedy?

Colin
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 12 April 19 11:16 BST (UK)
Hello
Her death cert  in the USA
Mary Emma Howell nee Williams
Spouse Louis Howell
father Evan Williams mother Sarah Gerney Wales
Death 1 Oct 1926
Born 18 Dec 1848
death due to stomach cancer
Roosevelt Utah

So they are right ,her parents are Evan and Sarah Williams

ps sister Esther birth registration Sep 1857 gives mother's maiden name as Jeremy
The family grace in Utah is on Find a Grave

www.findagrave.com/memorial/35183885

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: Romilly on Friday 12 April 19 11:31 BST (UK)

Many thanks all for looking, - much appreciated.

ciderdrinker, - yes, that's definately her then. And so Parents, Evan and Sarah.

I have an Ancestry DNA Match to several of her descendants, and so I'm guessing that somewhere down the line, - she must have been related to my 3 x Great Grandmother Anne Williams. (Baptized  3/10/1811, Bethel Chapel, Calvinistic Methodist, Llangyfelach, Swansea. Parents William Williams and Sarah Walter. Anne Williams Married Evan Rees in Llangyfelach in 1830 and Died on the 3/10/1853 in Swansea).

I can't see Mary Emma Williams  on any Passenger Lists though?

Romilly.
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: jui on Friday 12 April 19 11:39 BST (UK)
Romilly.. on family search  .( really excited for you) .. i  found  information with pictures.. have you seen them ?.. trying to find how to send a link for you as not sure.. x
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: Romilly on Friday 12 April 19 11:40 BST (UK)
Romilly.. on family search  .( really excited for you) .. i  found  information with pictures.. have you seen them ?.. trying to find how to send a link for you as not sure.. x

No!!!

I must look, - do you have a Reference at all please?

Romilly.
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: jui on Friday 12 April 19 11:43 BST (UK)
I JUST TRIED BY TYPING IN ON GOOGLE FAMILY SEARCH KWXS-HX3.... please can you let me know if you manage or not to view.. k.. ty.. xx
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: jui on Friday 12 April 19 11:51 BST (UK)
 immigrated 1861 to utah
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: Romilly on Friday 12 April 19 11:54 BST (UK)

Jui, - I tried that Link on Google, but it just takes me to a Contact Family Search in Salt Lake City prompt.

I tried signing into Family Search and searching for Mary Emma under Williams and then Howell, - but don't seem to be getting anywhere...:-(

Don't know what I'm doing wrong?

Romilly.
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: Romilly on Friday 12 April 19 11:55 BST (UK)
immigrated 1861 to utah

Was she alone, - or with family?

Does it say?

Thanks so much for finding all of this!!

Romilly.
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: jui on Friday 12 April 19 12:00 BST (UK)
bear with me Romilly.. trying to see how you can view the info.. frustrating isn't it..
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: jui on Friday 12 April 19 12:14 BST (UK)
 managed to save info  i will try to pm you it Romilly
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: jui on Friday 12 April 19 12:40 BST (UK)
so happy ;D ;D ;D that you could view the info i sent you..  now just to find them going out to utah.. x
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: Romilly on Friday 12 April 19 12:46 BST (UK)

Thanks so much for all of your help Jui.

I would never have found all of that bu myself, I'm sure!

Romilly x
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: osprey on Sunday 14 April 19 15:53 BST (UK)
not Llanedy, but a possible family

marriage notice for Evan Williams & Sarah Jeremy
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4364660/4364663/34/

From parish register of marriages Brechfa 27 Jan 1846
Evan Williams full age farmer Brynrudion, father William farmer &
Sarah Jeremy full age farmer's daughter Cerbynau, father Thomas farmer
witnesses Thomas Jeremy Glanbrianfawr?, Daniel Daniel Pantpimswnn? and David Williams Brynrudion all signed.


1851 census Crebynau, Llanegwad HO107/2471 folio 255 pg 3
Evan Williams head mar 44 farmer of 86 acres b. Llanfihangel Rhos y Corn
Sarah wife 32 b. Llanegwad
Thomas J son 6 b. Llanegwad
Mary dau 3 b. Llanegwad
William son under 1 month b. Llanegwag
Sarah Davies niece 26 famer's daughter b. Mydrim
John Jones 18 farm servant b. Llanfihangel ar Arth
Ann Walters 22 house servant b. Llanegwad

Baptism for Sarah in Brechfa 1 June 1820 daughter of Thomas, farmer, & Sarah of Cerbyne
Burials in Llanegwad 31 May 1836 for Sarah Jeremy age 56 of Crybynau & 5 Jan 1853 for Thomas Jeremy aged 69 of Cerbynnau

1851 census Union Hall, Brechfa HO107/2471 folio 98 pg 2
David Jeremy head mar 29  Later Day Saints preacher b. Llanegwad
Mary wife 23 b. Llanfynydd
David father widower 66 retired farmer b. Llanegwad

1841 Crybyne, Llanegwad HO107/1383/16 folio 13 pg 1
Thomas Jeremy 55 farmer
Sarah 20
David 15
Catherine Evans 14 fs
all born in county

birth regs
birth reg Thomas Jeremy Williams june qtr 1846 Llandilofawr vol 26 pg 611 mmn Jeremy
Sarah Williams march qtr 1853 Llandilofawr vol 11a pg 486 mmn Jeremy
David Williams march qtr 1855 Llandilofawr vol 11a pg 552 mmn Jeremy
Esther Williams sept 1857 Llandilofawr vol 11a pg 589 mmn Jeremy
Anne Williams march qtr 1859 Llandilofawr vol 11a pg 622 mmn Jeremy
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: Romilly on Sunday 14 April 19 16:25 BST (UK)

Many thanks for all of the further info Osprey.

I will add it all to my Williams File. (I was never expecting to find so much on them! Now, why can't this happen with my Wilson's?:-)

Romilly.
Title: Re: Williams, Llanedy, 1851 Look-up please.
Post by: osprey on Sunday 14 April 19 17:16 BST (UK)
Evan's family

1841 Brynyreidion, Brechfa HO107/1380/1 folio 2 pg 3
William 58 farmer
Mary 56
Evan 30
David 20
William 16
Elizabeth 24
Mary 14
Margaret 11 ?
Sarah Thomas 22 fs
Ann Thomas 2
all born in county


1851 William's birth given as Llanpumsaint & Mary's as Llanfihangel Rhosycorn. Daughter Margaret baptised in Brechfa 24 Nov 1828 but I haven't found baptisms for other children as yet or a marriage for the parents.
1851 12 year old Annie Thomas enumerated as granddaughter, Sarah William, dau of William, married David Thomas 28 June 1839.
daughter Elizabeth married Thomas Dyer 4 Nov 1842


Marriage 1 Oct 1804 in Llanfihangel Rhosycorn for Thomas Jeremy of Llanegwad & Sarah Evans, witnesses Edward Owen, Daniel Jonathan & David Evans, all signed.