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Title: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: emjsw on Sunday 14 April 19 16:30 BST (UK)
Hello,
I was wondering if any one could help me please? I am trying to identify John's parents, in the 1851 census he is with Wife Mary and Son William. Piece 1730 Folio 453 Page number.

He gives his pob as Chosewell but this place does not seem to exist.
There are 3 John Steptoes born in Berks on Ancestry but from experience I know this site does not list all parish registers.
2 are born at Thatcham and Sunningwell and appear at these localities in 1751 which leaves the one born at Chieveley unaccounted for. Could this be my John Steptoe that gave his place of birth as Chosewell in 1851 or was there once a place called chosewell and that baptism is not on ancestry.
Mary and John's daughter Lidia goes on to marry Richard Hutt in Kidlington in 1845 and she lives at Cutslowe Farm which is in an extraparochial area, I am not sure if this is relevant.

Best wishes Emma

Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: emeltom on Sunday 14 April 19 16:53 BST (UK)
There are a couple of places in Berkshire which come close - Cholsey and Coleshill

Emeltom
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 14 April 19 16:58 BST (UK)
There's a Cholswell, aka Cholsall, parish of Abingdon St Helen
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 14 April 19 17:11 BST (UK)
Cholswell - just south west of Sunningwell

baptism (transcription)
John Steptoe, 4 Mar 1798, Sunningwell, parents John and Mary
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: emjsw on Sunday 14 April 19 17:56 BST (UK)
There are a couple of places in Berkshire which come close - Cholsey and Coleshill

Emeltom

That is handy to know, thank you :)
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: emjsw on Sunday 14 April 19 17:57 BST (UK)
There's a Cholswell, aka Cholsall, parish of Abingdon St Helen

That is really close to the place he lists on the census, thank you very much.
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: emjsw on Sunday 14 April 19 18:01 BST (UK)
Cholswell - just south west of Sunningwell

baptism (transcription)
John Steptoe, 4 Mar 1798, Sunningwell, parents John and Mary

Ahh that is great thank you and so close to a possible baptism too.
My John Steptoe ("Chosewell") is with his wife Mary and Son William at Water Eaton in 1851. There is another John Steptoe who gives his place of birth as Sunningwell and is married to Ann and lives in Croydon. Do you happen to know if there are 2 John Steptoes baptised in Sunningwell within a close timeframe please?
Thanks for the info you have given me.
Best wishes Emma
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 14 April 19 19:02 BST (UK)
Berkshire Baptisms (transcription)

John Steptoe, 18 July 1802, Thatcham, - parents Francis and Matilda
John Steptoe, 24 April 1803, Chievely, - parents John andMary
John Steptoe, 29 Sep 1805, Chievely, - parents John and Mary


Burial - John Steptoe, 12 July1803, All Souls, Marcham,  son of John and Mary (no age given)
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: emjsw on Sunday 14 April 19 19:36 BST (UK)
Berkshire Baptisms (transcription)

John Steptoe, 18 July 1802, Thatcham, - parents Francis and Matilda
John Steptoe, 24 April 1803, Chievely, - parents John andMary
John Steptoe, 29 Sep 1805, Chievely, - parents John and Mary


Burial - John Steptoe, 12 July1803, All Souls, Marcham,  son of John and Mary (no age given)

Thank you very much for looking this up and letting me know. I appreciate your time.
Best wishes Emma
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 14 April 19 20:42 BST (UK)
In the '41 Census, John Steptoe of Water Eaton, Kidlington, is shown as "born in County" ie. Oxfordshire.
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: emjsw on Sunday 14 April 19 21:21 BST (UK)
In the '41 Census, John Steptoe of Water Eaton, Kidlington, is shown as "born in County" ie. Oxfordshire.

Yes, I noticed that, I wish I could find them with certainty in 1861/71 if still alive (I think he dies 1877 Thrupp which is just up the road). He is so hard to trace as I wanted to verify his parents but I would be guessing. The Sunningwell and Thatcham John Steptoes turn up elsewhere in 1851. He married in 1819, the 1803 John baptised in Chieveley died and the 1805 one would only be 14 when he married. I am not sure that I will get back further with this one! Thanks for your help :)
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 15 April 19 08:52 BST (UK)
A check of FindMyPast confirms that the 1861 Water Eaton, Woodstock Registration area Census records are "missing in their entirety".
A large part of the Woodstock Registration area Census is missing.

Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 15 April 19 14:10 BST (UK)
Bicester Herald 1 July 1864
DEATHS
June 12, at Water Eaton, age 71, Mary, wife of Mr John Eaton.

General Register Office (GRO)
Mary Steptoe, Jun Qtr 1864, Woodstock, 3A  400 - age 71.

This gives a birth year of 1793.

The Mary with John Steptoe at Water Eaton is 45 (born 1792-1796) on the '41 Census and 52 (born 1799) on the 1851 Census.

 
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: emjsw on Monday 15 April 19 16:44 BST (UK)
A check of FindMyPast confirms that the 1861 Water Eaton, Woodstock Registration area Census records are "missing in their entirety".
A large part of the Woodstock Registration area Census is missing.

Thank you very much, that is good to know as other branches of the family are based there and are untraceable in 1861.
Thank you
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: emjsw on Monday 15 April 19 16:46 BST (UK)
Bicester Herald 1 July 1864
DEATHS
June 12, at Water Eaton, age 71, Mary, wife of Mr John Eaton.

General Register Office (GRO)
Mary Steptoe, Jun Qtr 1864, Woodstock, 3A  400 - age 71.

This gives a birth year of 1793.

The Mary with John Steptoe at Water Eaton is 45 (born 1792-1796) on the '41 Census and 52 (born 1799) on the 1851 Census.

That is great thank you very much. I now believe that Mary Steptoe' s Maiden name is gardener and it fits with a Mary Gardener baptised Charlbury 1793.
Thanks again for your help.
Best wishes Emma
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: Kimbrey on Monday 15 April 19 17:00 BST (UK)
To "muddy the waters" even more :)

From the tanscriptions of St Helens Abingdon

Baptism
10 Nov 1797-STEPTOE John s Joseph Steptoe shepherd from Chusall (sic) and Mary

? Marriage
20 July 1793 at St Helens Abingdon
Joseph STEPTOE
Mary HOSLER

No baptism for a Joseph Steptoe and the only Mary Hosler is 1754ish?


Kim
Title: Re: John Steptoe b 1801 Chosewell
Post by: emjsw on Sunday 28 February 21 22:38 GMT (UK)
To "muddy the waters" even more :)

From the tanscriptions of St Helens Abingdon

Baptism
10 Nov 1797-STEPTOE John s Joseph Steptoe shepherd from Chusall (sic) and Mary

? Marriage
20 July 1793 at St Helens Abingdon
Joseph STEPTOE
Mary HOSLER

No baptism for a Joseph Steptoe and the only Mary Hosler is 1754ish?


Kim

Dear Kim,
I am so sorry I missed this at the time, I am re visiting John Steptoe and looked at this thread again and found your message and I had not thanked you. It is very late now but thanks for your help I appreciate it.
Thanks to you and everyone who helped me in this thread.

Best wishes, Emma