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Title: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: gracol on Sunday 14 April 19 19:05 BST (UK)
Have found records up to the 1911 census,except for his marriage.
According to the 1911 census he had been married to Alice for 10 years ,marriage therefore 1901.Alice was born in Hull in 1877.
I cannot find them in the 1939 Register.
From family memories Harry was a "bit of a lad",I do wonder if he did actually marry?
Any help with the register or marriage greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 14 April 19 19:09 BST (UK)
According to the 1911 census he had been married to Alice for 10 years ,marriage therefore 1901.

The column on the 1911 census asks for no of complete years of marriage ;D
Therefore a marriage would be 1900 to early 1901.

Possibilities:
March qtr 1900 Croydon RD marriage to an Alice Elizabeth Philpot
September qtr 1900 Lewisham RD marriage to an Alice Beckett

Haven't looked at Henry Green possibilities, though.
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: gracol on Sunday 14 April 19 20:33 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your reply.
"Complete years of marriage",that will teach me to read the small print !
Alice Beckett is the one-1891 census shows her as being born in Hull in 1877.
Being registered at birth as Harry I assume he wouldn't have used Henry or Harold.
Strange I cannot find them in the 1939 register.
Thanks again
Colin.

Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 14 April 19 20:38 BST (UK)
If Harry had signed up for WW2 service, he won't be on the 1939 National Register.
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 14 April 19 22:27 BST (UK)
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According to the 1911 census he had been married to Alice for 10 years

Had they any children by then?
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: CarolA3 on Monday 15 April 19 04:11 BST (UK)
If Harry had signed up for WW2 service, he won't be on the 1939 National Register.

Were HM Forces recruiting people in their 60s?

Carol
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: gracol on Monday 15 April 19 21:16 BST (UK)
Thanks a lot for the replies
Milliepede-they had no children in the 10 years before 1911,so feel very unlikely they had any after.
Searched 1939 register again with Harry's exact date of birth (as above),and Alice Green with her birth date of Oct/Nov/Dec 1876 but no joy.
Did they emigrate?  Wondered if anyone could do a quick check as I only have access to limited records on Ancestry ?
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 15 April 19 23:08 BST (UK)
Harry's exact date of birth (as above),


?

Modified, oh,  in the HEADING!
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 16 April 19 11:47 BST (UK)
There are Harry Green's born about the right time on passenger lists but not found one likely to be yours yet  :(

What occupation did yours have?
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 16 April 19 12:00 BST (UK)
You say you have found them on census up to 1911 but give no indication as to whether they were married in 1901 census or where they were living at the time
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 16 April 19 16:10 BST (UK)
A family tree has Harry with a wife Lizzie in 1901  :-X

And 1911 come to that so someone has got their Harry's mixed up. 
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: gracol on Tuesday 16 April 19 16:17 BST (UK)
Milliepede-in 1901 he was a French polisher in Grays Essex,and in 1911 a "French polisher (ships) yacht building" in Bitterne Hampshire.
Rosie-he married Alice Beckett in 1900 (see post 2).
Thanks for your replies.
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 16 April 19 16:24 BST (UK)
Baptism of Harry at West Hanningfield, 19 Oct 1873
Born 1 Septr
Parents Walter + Esther Green
abode West Hanningfield
Father a Farmer

BT here (poor image)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLX-NTF?i=1498&cat=494801
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: gracol on Wednesday 17 April 19 18:58 BST (UK)
Thanks jonw65 for the image.
Millipede-is there a family tree with my Harry Green in it ? The Lizzie is wrong as 1901 & 1911 censuses confirm Alice.
All seems a mystery after 1911.
I was told my grandfather,Harry's brother, tried to trace him believing him to be" up North",but to no avail.
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 17 April 19 22:07 BST (UK)
The tree has Harry Green born 1874 West Hanningfield with

parents Walter and Ether (presume should be Esther) 

marriage Elizabeth Sutton 1895 and

child Elsie Lizzie 1900

So I think they have got mixed up.
Title: Re: HARRY GREEN,born 1 Sept 1873 West Hanningfield Essex.
Post by: gracol on Thursday 18 April 19 18:01 BST (UK)
Thanks Milliepede.
Found the trees,Walter & Esther the parents correct,but the marriage and thereafter all wrong.
Disappointing,and puzzling that nothing after 1911 discovered not even their deaths ?
Shouldn't imagine this happens very often.