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Title: Cause of Death
Post by: zimmer46 on Monday 15 April 19 10:55 BST (UK)
The attached is from a Cornish death certificate.   Does "Child led / Not Certified"   mean she died in childbirth and the child did not survive either ?   Sorry for what mean seem a basic question, but just trying to make sure I interpret things correctly.

Andrew

Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 April 19 10:57 BST (UK)
It's Child bed.  Suspect it was puerperal fever.

Gadget

add - https://www.britannica.com/science/puerperal-fever
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: goldie61 on Monday 15 April 19 11:02 BST (UK)
'Child bed' from me too.
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: zimmer46 on Monday 15 April 19 11:05 BST (UK)
Thank for the quick replies.  To be honest I did think it read "child bed", but could not make sense of that.   Just reading the link posted by Gadget.   What does the "not certified" mean in this context .

Andrew   
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: conahy calling on Monday 15 April 19 11:16 BST (UK)
not certified means a doctor did not see her.
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: stanmapstone on Monday 15 April 19 11:37 BST (UK)
You don't give a date but until 1874 entering the cause of death was not a legal requirement, but from 1874 a doctor's certificate was necessary before a death certificate could be issued. Between 1858 and 1874 the entry should indicate whether the cause had been 'certified' or 'not certified' by a medical practitioner.

Stan
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: zimmer46 on Monday 15 April 19 11:39 BST (UK)
You don't give a date but until 1874 entering the cause of death was not a legal requirement, but from 1874 a doctor's certificate was necessary before a death certificate could be issued. Between 1858 and 1874 the entry should indicate whether the cause had been 'certified' or 'not certified' by a medical practitioner.

Stan

Thanks Stan.  The death was 1863 so that makes sense .

Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: medpat on Monday 15 April 19 14:09 BST (UK)
 You can use GRO search facility to put surname and MMN in and find the child if it survived the birth so may confirm what is on the death cert.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: Annie65115 on Wednesday 17 April 19 17:56 BST (UK)
It could have been puerperal fever, as it was such a common cause of maternal death. But that tends to kill a few days after childbirth, so it could also have been something more acute such as bleeding during labour, or even a prolonged labour which exhausted the mother.
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: zimmer46 on Thursday 18 April 19 15:01 BST (UK)
Thanks to all for the responses and help.
I checked for a birth using year and mothers maiden name, but nothing found.   Eliza already had 6 children with the last being born in 1860, so I suppose its possible there were complications perhaps after a miscarriage but no trace of any resultant birth. 

Thanks again all.   All adds to my understanding of some of the issues effecting these generations.

Andrew