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Looking for any information on a James Ferguson, born around 1840, died 12/01/1906 Londonderry, married to (H)Anna Ferguson, Ferguson may have been her birth surname. (James father may have been a Samuel Ferguson), They had a son William Bell Ferguson born 1870, my grandfather. They lived around Eglington - Londonderry area of Northern Ireland.
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Name WILLIAM FERGUSON
Date of Birth 1870
Group Registration ID 7443225
SR District/Reg Area Londonderry
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03347/2227195.pdf
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Marriage of JAMES FERGUSON
in 1861
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Londonderry
Returns Year 1861
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 7
Returns Page No 344
Marriage of HANNAH FERGUSON
in 1861
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Londonderry
Returns Year 1861
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 7
Returns Page No 344
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William Bell Ferguson. 03 May 1870. Eglinton, Derry. James Ferguson / Anna Ferguson.
Maybe siblings...
James Ferguson. 24 Apr 1866. Eglinton, Derry. James Ferguson / Hannah Ferguson.
Mary Ann Ferguson. 20 Sep 1864. Eglinton, Derry. James Ferguson / Hannah Ferguson.
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Name William Bell Ferguson
Event Type Marriage
Event Date Oct - Dec 1899
Event Place Londonderry, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1899
Registration District Londonderry
Volume Number 2
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Thanks for that information to you both, does it happen to give their ages at marriage?
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Thanks for that information to you both, does it happen to give their ages at marriage?
Afraid not you will have to get copy of cert. they maybe on there.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie
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Do you know when and where James and Hannah died?
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Hi
If I am correct I think James might have died 12th Jan 1906 at 14 Spencer Road Londonderry, however, that might have been his son James, brother to William Bell Ferguson, apparently he died at 59years old so that would put him closer in age, I will have to get certificate for James/Hannah.
Thankyou so much for your interest and help.
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cert is online
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05571/4564269.pdf
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Birth, Marriage and Death results for ferguson of Londonderry
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nox/
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
**The General Register Office are currently working on updating further records of Marriages dating back to 1845 and Deaths dating back to 1864.These will be included in future updates to the records available on the website
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Name William Bell Ferguson
Event Type Marriage
Event Date Oct - Dec 1899
Event Place Londonderry, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1899
Registration District Londonderry
Volume Number 2
Image of cert online via Link posted
click on Marriages on left......
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cert is online
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05571/4564269.pdf
If this is James it would make him born c1847 but it say the informant was Sara, daughter.
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Maybe he had a daughter Sara??
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to look for births click on Births via Link provided!
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I think that Sara is the daughter of John and Mary. No Sara births for James and Hannah.
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How can she be Sara the daughter of James who is on James' death cert if, as you say, her father is John??
It also says on 1901 census that she was James' daughter so I reckon James was her father!
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Spencer_Road/1540697/
aged 18 with father James and 2 siblings
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The age at death would make him 14 when he married in1861
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So John and James were brothers?
Also I have a death for James as of 12/01/1906 at 14 Spencer Road Londonderry, I have a feeling that might be James and Hannah son, based on the age at death of 59 years.
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So John and James were brothers?
Also I have a death for James as of 12/01/1906 at 14 Spencer Road Londonderry, I have a feeling that might be James and Hannah son, based on the age at death of 59 years.
But his son was born in 1866 this James was born in 1847.
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Ok May I ask where you got the 1847 for James birth, if that is correct it would tie in with the death at 59 years of age
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1866 birth
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So John and James were brothers?
Also I have a death for James as of 12/01/1906 at 14 Spencer Road Londonderry, I have a feeling that might be James and Hannah son, based on the age at death of 59 years.
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What are you on about???
You, according to your first post are Looking for any information on a James Ferguson, born around 1840, died 12/01/1906 Londonderry, married to (H)Anna Ferguson, Ferguson may have been her birth surname. (James father may have been a Samuel Ferguson), They had a son William Bell Ferguson born 1870, my grandfather.
So.....how on earth can you have a feeling that the 1906 death might be James and Hannah son
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Ok May I ask where you got the 1847 for James birth, if that is correct it would tie in with the death at 59 years of age
do the maths.... IF and I say IF the 1861 Marriage is their Marriage and he died 1906 age 59 then 1906 minus 59 give you what year of birth???
Then what age would have been in 1861??
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So John and James were brothers?
Also I have a death for James as of 12/01/1906 at 14 Spencer Road Londonderry, I have a feeling that might be James and Hannah son, based on the age at death of 59 years.
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What are you on about???
You, according to your first post are Looking for any information on a James Ferguson, born around 1840, died 12/01/1906 Londonderry, married to (H)Anna Ferguson, Ferguson may have been her birth surname. (James father may have been a Samuel Ferguson), They had a son William Bell Ferguson born 1870, my grandfather.
So.....how on earth can you have a feeling that the 1906 death might be James and Hannah son
Hey, calm down, no need for that.
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Don't forget too.... this is all based on the ASSUMPTION that these 2 were Married to each other!!
Marriage of JAMES FERGUSON in 1861
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Londonderry
Returns Year 1861
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 7
Returns Page No 344
Marriage of HANNAH FERGUSON in 1861
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Londonderry
Returns Year 1861
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 7
Returns Page No 344
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I think the 1866 birth of James confirms the marriage as it says Hannah Ferguson formally Ferguson.
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I think the 1866 birth of James confirms the marriage as it says Hannah Ferguson formally Ferguson.
James was their son.....but the above are only 2 names on a page. For now, no one knows if these married the other.
Everything posted is ASSUMING they did.
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The birth of William Bell also confirms the marriage.
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Nobody is disputing that they married!
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Nobody is disputing that they married!
"For now, no one knows if these married the other". ???
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Nobody is disputing that they married!
"For now, no one knows if these married the other". ???
another example
Marriage of JAMES FERGUSON
in 1864
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Magherafelt
Returns Year 1864
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 11
Returns Page No 855
Marriage of ANNIE FERGUSON
in 1864
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Magherafelt
Returns Year 1864
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 11
Returns Page No 855
for now.... just 2 names on same page!
Doesn't mean they married each other
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Here's 2 more children. There maybe more, I'll keep looking.
David Ferguson. 4 Apr 1872. Londonderry. James Ferguson/Hannah Ferguson Ferguson.
Robert John Ferguson. 20 Nov 1867. Londonderry. James Ferguson/Hannah Ferguson.
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Nobody is disputing that they married!
"For now, no one knows if these married the other". ???
Yes... for now they are just 2 names found on same page of a register
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So are we able to find where James(senior) was born James's father name.
Also Hannah's where and and when Possible death
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Name: James Ferguson
Spouse's Name: Hannah Ferguson
Event Date: 09 Apr 1861
Event Place: Glendermot, Derry, Ireland
Father's Name: Samuel Ferguson
Spouse's Father's Name: Daniel Ferguson
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So are we able to find where James(senior) was born James's father name.
Also Hannah's where and and when Possible death
Did you find her on 1901 Census?
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So are we able to find where James(senior) was born James's father name.
Also Hannah's where and and when Possible death
Have'nt been able to find yet and we have'nt got James(senior) death yet. Do you think they may of moved away from Londonderry?
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Is this not James' death age 59??
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=811819.msg6721093#msg6721093
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This death fits more closely...
Name James Ferguson
Event Type Death
Event Date Jan - Mar 1896
Event Place Londonderry, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Jan - Mar 1896
Registration District Londonderry
Age 59
Birth Year (Estimated) 1837
Volume Number 2
Informant is James Ferguson (son) Mountjoy Street
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Is this not James' death age 59??
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=811819.msg6721093#msg6721093
I don't think so as he would only be 14 when married as I stated before.
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No worries....was just going by address of Spencer Road Londonderry, as posted.
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Is this not James' death age 59??
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=811819.msg6721093#msg6721093
I don't think so as he would only be 14 when married as I stated before.
or 17 if
Marriage of JAMES FERGUSON in 1864
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Magherafelt
is him.
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Is this not James' death age 59??
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=811819.msg6721093#msg6721093
I don't think so as he would only be 14 when married as I stated before.
or 17 if
Marriage of JAMES FERGUSON in 1864
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Magherafelt
is him.
So explain "Annie Ferguson" becoming Hannah Ferguson on all the children's birth's.
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Is this not James' death age 59??
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=811819.msg6721093#msg6721093
I don't think so as he would only be 14 when married as I stated before.
or 17 if
Marriage of JAMES FERGUSON in 1864
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Magherafelt
is him.
So explain "Annie Ferguson" becoming Hannah Ferguson on all the children's birth's.
Quite easily..... look at birth of William Bell Ferguson born 1870! They had a son William Bell Ferguson born 1870, the poster's grandfather!
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Ok I agree it could be and if so it's back to square 1 and check the birth's of their children.
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Name Andrew Ferguson
Gender Male
Birth Date 01 Sep 1869
Birthplace Londonderry, Ireland
Father's Name James Ferguson
Mother's Name Anne Ferguson
Name Anne Jane Ferguson
Gender Female
Birth Date 28 Oct 1871
Birthplace Londonderry, Ireland
Father's Name James Ferguson
Mother's Name Anne Ferguson
Name William Bell Ferguson
Gender Male
Birth Date 03 May 1870
Birthplace Londonderry, Ireland
Father's Name James Ferguson
Mother's Name Anna Ferguson
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There's this birth that maybe the Sara on the 1906 death for James.
Name Sarah Ferguson
Gender Female
Birth Date 20 Sep 1880
Birthplace Molrey, Londonderry, Ireland
Father's Name James Ferguson
Mother's Name Annie Ferguson Ferguson
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The Londonderry Sentinel 12 Apr 1861
April 9, in the Presbyterian Church, First Glendermott, by the Rev. A. Buchanan, Mr. James Ferguson, son of Mr. Samuel Ferguson, of Ramoath, to Hannah, daughter of Mr. Daniel Ferguson, of Slaght..
Ramoath I don't recognise, Slaght could be Slaghtmanus, in Cumber Lower.
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Hi
I have a James(1966), Mary Ann (1964), Robert John (1867), David Ferguson (1872), William Bell (1870) as children of James and Hannah.
Are you saying that Andrew (1869), Anne Jane (1871) William Bell (1870 are children of James and Hannah, I am confused
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So...is this William Bell Ferguson, son of James and ANNA your grandfather??
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Is that the correct household in 1901 or not??
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My goodness what a mess here- AND on the wrong board as well.
Forget the earlier census record and 1906 death-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Spencer_Road/1540697
Alfred Ferguson son of James Ferguson & Elizabeth Cochrane-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02969/2087740.pdf
This is the James Ferguson who died 12 Jan.1906 (14 Spencer Rd.)
Now, so far William Bell Ferguson (born at Gorticross) had at least 4 siblings also born at Gortacross- Mary Ann (1866) James (1866), Robert John (1867), David (1872)
However, if WBF (William Bell Ferguson) was born 3 May 1870 then the Andrew** posted was born only 8 months earlier.
Also, the Annie* posted born 28 Oct.1871 was born less than 6 months before David.
Off to, 1 do some searching and 2 ask for this thread to be moved to Derry/Londonderry board where it belongs.
* Anne Jane born townland of Mobuoy, Lissan Parish (Moneymore sub-district)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03278/2201339.pdf
** Andrew also born Mobuoy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03388/2242350.pdf
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Just found an earlier topic ::)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=799506.msg6569666#msg6569666
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Possibly this family?
A Hannah Ferguson died 1910 at 2 Abercorn Rd., Derry- son James of 45 Bennett St. was informant-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05420/4514753.pdf
James Ferguson living Bennett St. in 1911 with wife and some of their children-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban/Bennett_Street/599444
Same family in 1901 with his mother Hannah in household-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Dunfield/1540083
Son Robert George born 1904- mother Matilda Jane Anthony-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01806/1707530.pdf
James Ferguson married Matilda Jane Anthony in 1891- his father James (carter)- his address 90 Spener Road and hers was 24 Bennett St.-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10684/5893616.pdf
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Very interesting! Derry City Cemetery
Hannah Jane Ferguson, parents- William B. & Eliza A. Ferguson, born Bellview Avenue, 2 Bellview Avenue, age 6 months, died 23 Jun 1905, buried 24 Jun 1905, plot S-b-25, proprietor- William Bell Fergoson 2 Bellview Avenue
Same plot- William B. Ferguson, parents- James & Hannah Ferguson, born Derry, 2 Bellevue Avenue. age 33 years, died 22 Jul 1905, buried 24 Jul 1905
3 other burials in that plot (not Ferguson surname)
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William Bell Ferguson, butcher- daughter Hannah Jane Ferguson died earlier but both deaths on same page-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05586/4569529.pdf
William & family in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/No__3_Urban/Harding_Street/1529802
Son William born 1900 (84 Spencer Rd.)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01985/1764315.pdf
Son Frederick born 1902-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01911/1741081.pdf
Son John Mitchell born 1903-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01859/1724269.pdf
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James Ferguson died 1896 at 84 Spencer Road (WBF's address in 1900)- son James informant (Mountjoy St.)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05907/4676438.pdf
Remember that people weren't always sure of their own ages let alone that of their parents.
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Derry Journal, 24 July 1905: Ferguson- July 22, at his residence, 2, Bellvue Avenue, Derry, William Bell Ferguson. The remains of my dearly-beloved husband will be removed from his late residence to-day (Monday), 24th instant, half-past ...
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Northern Whig, 18 Aug.1866: … few bags of new sandy oats good quality, grown Mr. James Ferguson, Rarasth [?], Gorticross, were sold in the grain market Wednesday to Messrs. William _ Son, millers, Foyle Street, at 13d per stone.
Derry Journal, 3 Mar.1858: ... Samuel Ferguson, old farmer, residing in Gorticross, preferred a charge against a cyprian, named Mary Donaghey, for having, on Wednesday night last, assisted …
Derry Journal, 9 Oct.1874: THE Subscribers have received Instructions from Mr. Samuel Ferguson to SELL BY AUCTION, MONDAY. 26th OCTOBER, inst., on the PREMISES, that very Desirable FARM GORTICROSS, about Four Miles from Derry, containing about Sixty-six Acres, Statute ...
Samuel Ferguson, age 105, died 1885 at Gorticross-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06298/4805120.pdf
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WBF's widow Eliza Anne & 3 sons- says all born Co. Donegal which is incorrect- and son William has middle name Archibald-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Buncrana/Buncrana/491591
Family living in 2 rooms-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002083632/
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Possible death for Mary Ann Ferguson age 4 Eglinton district 25 Oct.1868
IF there was a son Samuel (born before registration & named after father's father)-
Samuel Ferguson age 11 died Eglinton district 2 May 1873
These two are only possibilities and certificates (not yet online) would need to be checked to see if they are children of James & Hannah Ferguson.
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There's an online tree which has James Ferguson died 1906 (already proved this is not correct) and wife Hannah born "Slaught, Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland?"
The only useful bit is that widow Elzabeth Ann (Robinson) Ferguson died 1934 in Suffolk, England and sons William Archibald & John Mitchell died there as well which means I've just wasted lots of time searching for them after 1911 in Irish records :-\
If this is your tree, rgferg65, you'll need to do some serious correcting.
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Hi aghadowey Thanks very much for your time and work, yes William Archibald, John Mitchel, Frederick Ferguson(my father) is correct, all deceased Lowestoft Suffolk. Thanks Again
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Hi Again sorry, but are you saying that the James Ferguson died 1906 is not mine, I know you said that you already proved that but how?, I must have missed that.
Also if that is the case is the marriage of James to Hannah 9th April 1861 also incorrect?
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Het just woke up to read all this additional info from aghadowey. Are with the the 1861 marriage of James and Hannah or the 1864 with James and Annie, a lot to take in at 5am. ;D
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Hi Again sorry, but are you saying that the James Ferguson died 1906 is not mine, I know you said that you already proved that but how?, I must have missed that.
Aside from the fact the 1906 one is the wrong age, has the wrong wife and children and yours died 1896? Reply #53-
Forget the earlier census record and 1906 death-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Spencer_Road/1540697
Alfred Ferguson son of James Ferguson & Elizabeth Cochrane-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02969/2087740.pdf
This is the James Ferguson who died 12 Jan.1906 (14 Spencer Rd.)
The 1861 marriage is the correct couple. The 1864 marriage is wrong couple in wrong area, etc.
I believe James Ferguson's wife was known as Hannah but sometimes when her name was written by officials it was given as Anna (which sounds almost the same).
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Hi Again sorry, but are you saying that the James Ferguson died 1906 is not mine, I know you said that you already proved that but how?, I must have missed that.
Also if that is the case is the marriage of James to Hannah 9th April 1861 also incorrect?
That is what caused all the confusion to start with!!
1906 minus 59 gives you a birth year of 1847... so would have been 14 in 1861
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Hi Again sorry, but are you saying that the James Ferguson died 1906 is not mine, I know you said that you already proved that but how?, I must have missed that.
Also if that is the case is the marriage of James to Hannah 9th April 1861 also incorrect?
That is what caused all the confusion to start with!!
1906 minus 59 gives you a birth year of 1847... so would have been 14 in 1861
That's what I've said all along.
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From reply #60-
Derry Journal, 9 Oct.1874: THE Subscribers have received Instructions from Mr. Samuel Ferguson to SELL BY AUCTION, MONDAY. 26th OCTOBER, inst., on the PREMISES, that very Desirable FARM GORTICROSS, about Four Miles from Derry, containing about Sixty-six Acres, Statute ...
Details in the Valuation Revision Books for Gorticross fit with this date-
1862-1864 (page 37/55- page 32 in notebook)
1a. Samuel Ferguson, house office land, 66 acres 0 rods 20 perches, immediate lessor (landlord)- Worshipful Co. of Grocers. At some point (1866?) a house on the property was rented to a Martha Henry as 2b.
1865-1880 )page 57/88- page 53 in notebook)
1a changed to JohnCochrane in 1876
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/Search.aspx
Note: sometimes it tooka year or so until changed were actually notes in the books.
Gorticross townland-
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/tirkeeran/clondermot/gorticross/
Looks out towards Gorticross- LINK (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.000204,-7.2627959,3a,75y,119.5h,75.39t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sK6HNZHHUGfgv8caqlaqnOA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DK6HNZHHUGfgv8caqlaqnOA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D80.13917%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100?hl=en) on Streetview
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I now understand that James born 1847 is incorrect for the 1861 marriage(which you say is correct), however I have a certified copy of William Bell/Elizabeth Ann marriage, as at 1899 which gives fathers name as James Ferguson but does not say deceased, so is this certificate incorrect for the 1896 death?. So do we know when James was born?
Sorry my head is swimming, I thank you for your patience
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Different jurisdictions have different laws re what to record on marriage registrations. What was the actual requirement (in 1899) for recording if either of the parents were known to be deceased at the time of that marriage for William and Elizabeth...
JM
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A marriage certificate gives:
marriage date and place
names of the bride and groom, their ages, their marital "condition" (single or widowed), their professions, and their residences at the time of the marriage
names and occupations of their fathers (and sometimes whether they were deceased)
signatures or marks of the bride, groom, and witnesses
also notes whether the bride and groom were married in a church (with the denomination given) and, if so, whether they were married by banns or by license.
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:)
Thanks,
So that 1899 m.c. cannot be 'eliminated' :D just because it does not include a notation that that particular parent is known to be deceased.
JM
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I now understand that James born 1847 is incorrect for the 1861 marriage(which you say is correct), however I have a certified copy of William Bell/Elizabeth Ann marriage, as at 1899 which gives fathers name as James Ferguson but does not say deceased, so is this certificate incorrect for the 1896 death?. So do we know when James was born?
Sorry my head is swimming, I thank you for your patience
Pretty sure the 1861 marriage is correct but not born 1847, if this death is correct it gives his birth as 1837. I stand to be corrected but my head is swimming to. ;D
Name James Ferguson
Event Type Death
Event Date Jan - Mar 1896
Event Place Londonderry, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Jan - Mar 1896
Registration District Londonderry
Age 59
Birth Year (Estimated) 1837
Volume Number 2
Informant is James Ferguson (son) Mountjoy Street
Added
Do you know who the witness James Bell is on the 1899 marriage?
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For further checking:
A John Ferguson, aged 63, late of Straidarran, died at 84 Spencer Road in 1903. Buried Bannagher Presbyterian Church burying ground.
In 1900, a Wm. B. Ferguson, 84 Spencer Road, was listed as a Seconder in connection with elections of a council candidate.
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John Ferguson died 1903 at 84 Spencer Road- married, age 63 (born c1840)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05646/4589120.pdf
Looks like this John Ferguson with family in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Spencer_Road/1540730
Daughter Emma born 1877 Strad, Banagher (mother's maiden name Craig)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02998/2098838.pdf
Marriage 1863 gives his father as Joseph Ferguson (image not online)-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYQ-8NMZ
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Do you know who the witness James Bell is on the 1899 marriage?
Possibly this one-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/South_Ward_No__2_Urban/Mountjoy_Street/1528633
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Ah ok. So what is the Bell connection with Ferguson? My immediate thoughts before was it was Hannah's maiden name but her name was Ferguson.
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Given that the Hannah Ferguson who died in 1910 did so at 2 Abercorn Place, perhaps this Bell family links in:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__3_Urban/Abercorn_Place/600003/
which also looks to fit well with the 1901 posted by aghadowey.
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Ah ok. So what is the Bell connection with Ferguson? My immediate thoughts before was it was Hannah's maiden name but her name was Ferguson.
Perhaps just named after local schoolmaster? There was a William Bell at Gortnessy (right near Gorticross)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Lough_Enagh/Gortnessy/1527962
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Eglinton/Muff_or_Eglinton_Town/598796
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Hannah Ferguson was with her son in 1901 census-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Dunfield/1540083
I already posted this in reply #55 (page 7)
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Poor newspaper copy, but Hannah's death notice appeared in Derry Journal and confirmed she was relict of the late James Ferguson, late of Rammoth, Gortnessy. Her burial was at Glendermott New Burying Ground.
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Good find, scotmum. Didn't come up in my earlier searches but just found this intriguing snippet-
Derry Journal, 12 May 1915: DERRY CHANCERY SUIT. ... and another v. Bell and others—came on for determination of questions under the will the deceased. The summons was brought by Robert John Curry and Alexander Buchanan, executors of the will of deceased, who was farmer at Gortnessy, county Derry. The defendants are next-of-kin of the deceased: Mrs. Elizabeth Bell, 19, Westland Avenue, Derry, Mrs. Rebecca M'Monagle, 44, Great James Street. Derry, and John Ferguson Payne, of Gortnessy. The question for ...
Think this might be the deceased in question-
Probate of the Will of John Ferguson late of Gortnessy County Londonderry Farmer who died 15 November 1905 granted at Londonderry to Robert J. Curry and Alexander Buchanan Farmers.
Londonderry Sentinel, 18 Nov.1905: Ferguson— November 15, at his residence, Gortnessy, John Ferguson. [lnterment in Gortnessy burying-ground this (Saturday) morning, 18th inst., at eleven o’clock. Friends will please accept this...
Age 90 and looks like R.J. Curry was brother-in-law (may not be the same one that was executor)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05579/4566985.pdf
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John Ferguson Payne- nephew [possibly great-nephew] of John Ferguson (aged only 80 in 1901)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Lough_Enagh/Gortnessy/1527944
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Lough_Enagh/Gortnessy/598890
John Ferguson Payne's mother was Curry-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02283/1856874.pdf
His parents-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Lough_Enagh/Avish/1527850
Mother Sarah & other son in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Lough_Enagh/Avish/598819
Father John died just days before census-
Probate of the Will of John Payne late of Avish County Londonderry Farmer who died 29 March 1911 granted at Londonderry to Robert John Currie Farmer
Probate of the Will of Martha Ferguson late of Gortnessy County Londonderry Widow who died 1 April 1911 granted at Londonderry to Alexander Hall Farmer.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05396/4506696.pdf
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Probate of the Will of William Ferguson late of Gortnessy County Londonderry Farmer who died 14 August 1898 granted [11 Sept.1899] at Londonderry to William Doherty of Ardnaguinog Eglinton and John Payne of Avish Gortnessy both said County Farmers. Will mentions son William Ferguson, wife Catherine Ann otherwise Adams and a maid named Mary Moore.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05821/4648151.pdf
If this is William's son William then this explains bequest to maid and 1 shilling to William after wife Catherine Ann's death!
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Lough_Enagh/Gortnessy/598894
Ten years earlier William's mother is a widow Mary Ferguson- I don't think so
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Lough_Enagh/Gortnessy/1527948
John Ferguson Payne's mother Sarah died months after 1911 census-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05388/4504041.pdf
Probate of the Will of Sarah Payne late of Avish County Londonderry Widow who died 8 September 1911 granted at Londonderry to William Doherty and Robert John Currie Farmers.
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Catherine Ann (Adams) Ferguson died 1899-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05797/4640008.pdf
William James Moore, son of Mary, born 1871 Gortnessy-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03285/2203992.pdf
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I know this thread seems to have started rambling a bit from to search of WBF's family but things are starting to come together.
Remember that Hannah Ferguson's father supposed to be a Daniel Ferguson according to extract of her 1861 marriage.
According to this post, there was a Jane Ferguson of Gortnessy married 1847 Samuel Cunningham. Her father was also a Daniel.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=557435.9
So, thinking Jane (Ferguson) Cunningham could be a sister of Hannah (Ferguson) Ferguson, I started researching Jane and her family.
Jane Ferguson (1829 Gortnessy-1893) m.(17 Feb.1847) Samuel John Cunningham
Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGX3-186
Probably quite a few children born 1847-1863 but these 3 born after civil registration-
1. Rebecca Cunningham (1865 Primity-aft.1936) m.(1892) Hugh McMonagle (c1868-1933)
2. Samuel Cunningham (1867) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPY2-TY9
3. Robert Cunningham (1869-1935 Canada)
Birth https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPD2-Q2H
Death https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLRB-CRC
I knew the name Rebecca McGonigle had come up somewhere before. Here's the newspaper article (extract)-
Derry Journal, 12 May 1915: DERRY CHANCERY SUIT. ... and another v. Bell and others—came on for determination of questions under the will the deceased. The summons was brought by Robert John Curry and Alexander Buchanan, executors of the will of deceased, who was farmer at Gortnessy, county Derry. The defendants are next-of-kin of the deceased: Mrs. Elizabeth Bell, 19, Westland Avenue, Derry, Mrs. Rebecca M'Monagle, 44, Great James Street, Derry, and John Ferguson Payne, of Gortnessy. The question for ...
So, Rebecca McGonigle (daughter of a Jane Ferguson), Mrs. Elizabeth Bell & John Ferguson Payne (son of Sarah Curry whose sister married John Ferguson) connected to John Ferguson (d.1905) of Gortnessy.
According to extract of marriage of John Ferguson & Martha Curry his father was a DONALD Ferguson but IF it has been misread and father was DANIEL then everything makes sense (not sure what is going on with 2nd extract- LDS error?)-Marriage- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNR-VXQ
? marriage https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYQ-N9SW
continued...
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Still with John Ferguson of Gortnessy who died 1905-
Derry Journal, 16 Jan.1907: COUNTY DERRY LEGACY. Dublin law courts yesterday, before the Master of the Rolls, in the matter of the estate of John Ferguson, late of Gortnessy, farmer, deceased—Alexander Buchanan and Robert Curry v. Mrs. Agnes Sandersfield and Mrs. Martha Ferguson, application was made on behalf of the executors for determination of a question whether Mrs. Martha Ferguson, the widow, was entitled absolutely to legacy of £400 bequeathed...
Agnes Ferguson (Nov.1827 L’derry-1907 Michigan) m. John B. Sandersfield (c1817). Ch.: Hannah, John, Agnes, Maria, Robert, Henry
1900 census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSMW-MPX (to US 1860)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77281123/agnes-sandersfield (link corrected)
So are John Ferguson (c1821-1905), Agnes Sandersfield (1827-1907), Hannah Ferguson & Jane Cunningham (1829-1893) siblings?
The 1915 article might explain how WBF got the middle name of Bell.
More to follow...
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Mrs. Elizabeth Bell (born c1860) was a daughter of Samuel John Cunningham & Jane Ferguson-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11009/8025250.pdf
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Have pages more of information, etc. but won't bother posting for now
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I am a descendent of Agnes (Ferguson) Sandersfield, b 1828 Ireland, d 1907 Michigan, USA.
I am having a hard time tracing her lineage. Some documents say that her parents were born in Ireland, others say Scotland.
I know that her parents name, according to her death certificate were Daniel Ferguson and Hannah Hassen. Her husband was Johann/John Berend Sandersfield of Germany (I wonder how they met, and what prompted them to emigrate to the United States?). Here I am, 5 generations later, living 10 miles from the farm they settled on in the 1860s.
Does anyone know anything of the backstory of this family, or confirmation on parentage? I am at a total roadblock once I get to Daniel Ferguson and Hannah Hassen, I cannot find their lineage anywhere.
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Have you posted on this thread because it covers the Ferguson name and you believe you may be linked to James Ferguson or because the family you are seeking came from Co Londonderry originally?
Hopefully we may be able to get you some information but unless you have a strong suspicion that your Hassan/Fergusons are from Co Londonderry & connected to James Ferguson then I would suggest you ask a moderator to make a separate thread on the Derry Board called 'Daniel Ferguson and Hannah Hassan.'
Is this Agnes' headstone etc?
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77281123/agnes-sandersfield
Some of the family including a granddaughter on the 1900 US census.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:MSMW-MPX
On this record Agnes states that she came to the US about 1860?
Have looked at the passenger lists for her?
It looks as if the name Sandersfield may have originally Saadersfeld
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27Y2-KSY
Does this record tally with what you know about the family?
So a daughter, Juliann, was born in May 1860 so that may have pushed Agnes' arrival earlier than 1860 or else she married prior to coming to the US.
Have you found Agnes' marriage?
Just a point of interest that Agnes/Nancy in Ireland are often interchangeable
ETA Even though spelling was fairly fluid I am used to seeing Hassan spelt with an 'a' as the last vowel.
ETA 2 The Hassan and Ferguson names are quite well known in Co Londonderry.
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I posted to this thread because I am certain they came from Londonderry (Gortnessy specifically). Daniel Ferguson died in Gortnessy 17 Sep 1862. He (as well as Agnes and her siblings John, Hannah, Andrew and Jane are mentioned previously in this thread, which is how I landed here. I am not sure how they all tied into James.
Yes, the headstone link is for the Agnes Ferguson I am referencing.
I do believe the came to the US sometime between 1859 and 1860 as her daughter Maria was born in Ireland Jan 1859, and next child Hannah was born in New York May 1860. I have not had any luck locating a ship manifest for them.
The birth record for Julian Saadersfield is for a different family. Agnes Ferguson married Johann/John Sandersfield and they had children named Maria, Hannah, Agnes, John, Robert (my 2nd great grandfather), Anna, and Henry.
The only reference I have found to the Sandersfield/Ferguson marriage is a year of 1854 on Ancestry, but with no source attached and it also says they were married in Michigan, USA in 1854 and we know they were not yet here so I'm not sure that can be relied on as accurate.
If you think a new thread would be most helpful, I'd be happy to attempt that. I'm new to this site and still trying to figure everything out. Thank you so much for your detailed response!
Have you posted on this thread because it covers the Ferguson name and you believe you may be linked to James Ferguson or because the family you are seeking came from Co Londonderry originally?
Hopefully we may be able to get you some information but unless you have a strong suspicion that your Hassan/Fergusons are from Co Londonderry & connected to James Ferguson then I would suggest you ask a moderator to make a separate thread on the Derry Board called 'Daniel Ferguson and Hannah Hassan.'
Is this Agnes' headstone etc?
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77281123/agnes-sandersfield
Some of the family including a granddaughter on the 1900 US census.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:MSMW-MPX
On this record Agnes states that she came to the US about 1860?
Have looked at the passenger lists for her?
It looks as if the name Sandersfield may have originally Saadersfeld
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27Y2-KSY
Does this record tally with what you know about the family?
So a daughter, Juliann, was born in May 1860 so that may have pushed Agnes' arrival earlier than 1860 or else she married prior to coming to the US.
Have you found Agnes' marriage?
Just a point of interest that Agnes/Nancy in Ireland are often interchangeable
ETA Even though spelling was fairly fluid I am used to seeing Hassan spelt with an 'a' as the last vowel.
ETA 2 The Hassan and Ferguson names are quite well known in Co Londonderry.
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Welcome to Rootschat, Kristen2344 :)
Your Ferguson connection are indeed on this thread along with a lot of incorrect information from the original poster, etc.
Suggest you go back through the whole thread starting with the post below then looking at the connections of John Ferguson of Grtnessy who died 1905-
Still with John Ferguson of Gortnessy who died 1905-
Derry Journal, 16 Jan.1907: COUNTY DERRY LEGACY. Dublin law courts yesterday, before the Master of the Rolls, in the matter of the estate of John Ferguson, late of Gortnessy, farmer, deceased—Alexander Buchanan and Robert Curry v. Mrs. Agnes Sandersfield and Mrs. Martha Ferguson, application was made on behalf of the executors for determination of a question whether Mrs. Martha Ferguson, the widow, was entitled absolutely to legacy of £400 bequeathed...
Agnes Ferguson (Nov.1827 L’derry-1907 Michigan) m. John B. Sandersfield (c1817). Ch.: Hannah, John, Agnes, Maria, Robert, Henry
1900 census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSMW-MPX (to US 1860)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77281123/agnes-sandersfield (link corrected)
So are John Ferguson (c1821-1905), Agnes Sandersfield (1827-1907), Hannah Ferguson & Jane Cunningham (1829-1893) siblings?
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Thank you.
I have combed the thread multiple times over.
My biggest confusion is that the marriage mentioned between Hannah (son of Daniel Ferguson and Hannah Hassen) and James seems off. Not only was Hannah born in 1816, putting her much older than James, but if William Bell Ferguson b. 1870 was indeed their child, we would have been born when his mother was 54 year old. Not impossible, but unlikely.
Is is possible Hannah and James had a son named James, who fathered the mentioned children?
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Is this Agnes' headstone etc?
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77281123/agnes-sandersfield
Some of the family including a granddaughter on the 1900 US census.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:MSMW-MPX
Already posted in 2019- see reply #89
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I am a descendent of Agnes (Ferguson) Sandersfield, b 1828 Ireland, d 1907 Michigan, USA.
I am having a hard time tracing her lineage. Some documents say that her parents were born in Ireland, others say Scotland.
I wouldn't worry too much about birthplaces listed as both Scotland and Ireland depending on the record. It' not uncommon to see this in Ulster Scots families.
Does anyone know anything of the backstory of this family, or confirmation on parentage? I am at a total roadblock once I get to Daniel Ferguson and Hannah Hassen, I cannot find their lineage anywhere.
Civil registration of births, deaths & Catholic marriages started in 1864 (from 1845 for non-Catholic marriages) so for earlier dates you largely have to depend on any surviving church records (not all pre-registration survive and of those that do not all are online).
Her husband was Johann/John Berend Sandersfield of Germany (I wonder how they met, and what prompted them to emigrate to the United States?).
No sign of a marriage in Ireland so more likely they married in U.S. or possibly Canada if Agnes arrived from Ireland to U.S. via Canada.
An incomplete Ferguson family tree in next post...
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Daniel Ferguson m. Hannah Hassen
1. John Ferguson (c1815-15 Nov.1905), Gortnessy, m. Martha Curry (d.1 Apr.1911)
According to extract of marriage of John Ferguson & Martha Curry his father was a DONALD Ferguson but IF it has been misread and father was DANIEL then everything makes sense (not sure what is going on with 2nd extract- LDS error?)-Marriage- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNR-VXQ
marriage https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYQ-N9SW
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05579/4566985.pdf
Londonderry Sentinel, 18 Nov.1905: Ferguson— November 15, at his residence, Gortnessy, John Ferguson. [lnterment in Gortnessy burying-ground this (Saturday) morning, 18th inst., at eleven o’clock. Friends will please accept this...
Probate of the Will of John Ferguson late of Gortnessy County Londonderry Farmer who died 15 November 1905 granted at Londonderry to Robert J. Curry and Alexander Buchanan Farmers.
Derry Journal, 16 Jan.1907: COUNTY DERRY LEGACY. Dublin law courts yesterday, before the Master of the Rolls, in the matter of the estate of John Ferguson, late of Gortnessy, farmer, deceased—Alexander Buchanan and Robert Curry v. Mrs. Agnes Sandersfield and Mrs. Martha Ferguson, application was made on behalf of the executors for determination of a question whether Mrs. Martha Ferguson, the widow, was entitled absolutely to legacy of £400 bequeathed...
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05396/4506696.pdf
Probate of the Will of Martha Ferguson late of Gortnessy County Londonderry Widow who died 1 April 1911 granted at Londonderry to Alexander Hall Farmer.
Derry Journal, 12 May 1915: DERRY CHANCERY SUIT. ... and another v. Bell and others—came on for determination of questions under the will the deceased. The summons was brought by Robert John Curry and Alexander Buchanan, executors of the will of deceased, who was farmer at Gortnessy, county Derry. The defendants are next-of-kin of the deceased: Mrs. Elizabeth Bell, 19, Westland Avenue, Derry, Mrs. Rebecca M'Monagle, 44, Great James Street, Derry, and John Ferguson Payne, of Gortnessy. The question for ...
2. Agnes Ferguson (Nov.1827 L’derry-1907 Mich.) m. Johann/John Berend Sandersfield (c1817). Ch.: Hannah, John, Agnes, Maria, Robert, Henry
1900 census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSMW-MPX (to US 1860)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77281123/agnes-sandersfield
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3. Hannah/Anna Ferguson (d.1910 at 2 Abercorn Rd.) m.(9 Apr.1861) James Ferguson (c1837-1896), son of Samuel
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1861/09613/5486526.pdf
Londonderry Sentinel, 12 Apr.1861: April 9, in the Presbyterian Church, First Glendermott, by the Rev. A. Buchanan, Mr. James Ferguson, son of Mr. Samuel Ferguson, of Ramoath, to Hannah, daughter of Mr. Daniel Ferguson, of Slaght..
1901- Hannah with son James
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05907/4676438.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05420/4514753.pdf
a. Mary Ann Ferguson (20 Sept.1864 Gorticross)
b. James Ferguson (24 Apr.1866 Gorticross) m.(1891) Matilda Jane Anthony
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10684/5893616.pdf (his father James (carter)- his address 90 Spener Road and hers was 24 Bennett St.)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Dunfield/1540083
1910- 45 Bennett St.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban/Bennett_Street/599444
i. Robert George Ferguson (1904)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01806/1707530.pdf
c. Robert John Ferguson (20 Nov.1867 Gorticross)
d. William Bell Ferguson (3 May 1870-22 July 1905), butcher, m.(1899) Eliza Anne Robinson (d.1934 Suffolk, Eng.)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03347/2227195.pdf
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/No__3_Urban/Harding_Street/1529802
Death (William): https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05586/4569529.pdf
Derry Journal, 24 July 1905: Ferguson- July 22, at his residence, 2, Bellvue Avenue, Derry, William Bell Ferguson. The remains of my dearly-beloved husband will be removed from his late residence to-day (Monday), 24th instant, half-past ...
WBF's widow Eliza Anne & 3 sons- says all born Co. Donegal which is incorrect- and son William has middle name Archibald-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Buncrana/Buncrana/491591
Family living in 2 rooms-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002083632/
Derry City Cemetery: William B. Ferguson, parents- James & Hannah Ferguson, born Derry, 2 Bellevue Avenue. age 33 years, died 22 Jul 1905, buried 24 Jul 1905
i. William Archibald Ferguson (1900 at 84 Spencer Rd.)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01985/1764315.pdf
ii. Frederick Ferguson (1902)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01911/1741081.pdf
iii. John Mitchell Ferguson (1903)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01859/1724269.pdf
iv. Hannah Jane Ferguson (d.123 June 1905 aged 6 mo.)
Death (Hannah): https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05586/4569529.pdf
Derry City Cemetery: Hannah Jane Ferguson, parents- William B. & Eliza A. Ferguson, born Bellview Avenue, 2 Bellview Avenue, age 6 months, died 23 Jun 1905, buried 24 Jun 1905, plot S-b-25, proprietor- William Bell Fergoson 2 Bellview Avenue
e. David Ferguson (4 Apr.1872 Gorticross)
f. Sarah Ferguson (20 Sept.1880 Molrey, Derry)
4. Jane Ferguson (1829-1893) m.(17 Feb.1847) Samuel John Cunningham
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1847/09332/5379399.pdf
a. Elizabeth Cunningham m.(1881) _ Bell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11009/8025250.pdf
b. Rebecca Cunningham (1865 Primity-aft.1936) m.(1892) Hugh McMonagle (c1868-1933)
c. Samuel Cunningham (1867) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPY2-TY9
d. Robert Cunningham (1869-1935 Canada)
Birth https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPD2-Q2H
Death https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLRB-CRC
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Aghadowey thank you.
I thought in view of the lack of links back that this was a totally new set of people .......it would have been useful for the OP to have summarised including that the family came from Gortnessy etc.
I am interested personally in this from the point of the Rev'd and farmer Buchanan that are mentioned as executors etc bye the bye. My grandmother from Shanreagh had this name either Buchanan, Buchan, Bamingham, Birmingham Bannigan as her second name here in NZ. But this is another story and work for me.
Thanks for your help for Kristen2344.
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I posted to this thread because I am certain they came from Londonderry (Gortnessy specifically). Daniel Ferguson died in Gortnessy 17 Sep 1862. He (as well as Agnes and her siblings John, Hannah, Andrew and Jane are mentioned previously in this thread, which is how I landed here. I am not sure how they all tied into James.
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In view of the abundance of info on this thread and latterly, and as well as earlier from Aghadowey could you let us know exactly what additional info you are seeking for Daniel and Hannah?
The ability to double on info by researchers is greater with this amount of info around.
Aghadowey has a wide knowledge of this area and her info is to be relied on, in my view.
ETA See below there is a thread specifically for Daniel and Hannah. The link is below.
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There is a separate thread for the work that Kristen2344 is doing to research the Daniel Ferguson/Hannah Hassan links to her family ie Agnes Ferguson Sandersfield.
This is the link.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=862933.new#new