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Title: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: oldhippy on Monday 22 April 19 14:13 BST (UK)
Ethel May Hambling abt 1889 Suffolk did she marry?
Parents Henry Hambling abt 1861 he married Elizabeth Crane both born in Suffolk.
I cant find anything positive, but my searching is hopeless. 

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 22 April 19 14:40 BST (UK)
There's this marriage entry but it's in Norfolk  :-\

Ethel May HAMBLING
married either
Ernest Edward Sutton, Edward William Jackson
Jun 1910 Yarmouth Norfolk.  Volume   4B Page 35

Have you found her on 1911 census?

Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: heywood on Monday 22 April 19 14:47 BST (UK)
She looks to be unmarried in 1911

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7GY-X7F
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 22 April 19 14:52 BST (UK)
There are this births

Doris May JACKSON mn HAMBLING
1911  S Quarter in YARMOUTH  Volume 04B  Page 7

Alfred Samuel JACKSON mn HAMBLING
1913  J Quarter in YARMOUTH  Volume 04B  Page 11   
   
that would suggest that the previous marriage entry posted
for a Ethel May Hambling married Edward William Jackson

The only way to know for certain if it's your Ethel would be to obtain the m/c

Do you know her exact dob?  - not seeing it on her bp

Ethel May Hambling
Place   Sotterley
Mother Elizabeth
Father Henry
Baptism 26 May 1889
Parish   St Margaret
Father's occupation   Labourer
Residence   Willingham
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 22 April 19 14:55 BST (UK)
She looks to be unmarried in 1911

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7GY-X7F

Was posting whilst red writing - probably rules that marriage out  :)
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: heywood on Monday 22 April 19 14:58 BST (UK)
1911 shows Ethel May Jackson born Gt Yarmouth  :-\

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X75V-Z5P
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 22 April 19 15:05 BST (UK)
There were more Jackson / Hambling children born 1920  & 1924

I think this is the Ethel May Hambling that married Edward William Jackson

Ethel May Hambling mn ROYAL
1886 Apr-May-Jun Yarmouth Norfolk Volume:   4b Page:   12

Edit - and her death entry

Ethel May Jackson Age:   91
Birth  7 May 1886
Mar 1978 Southampton Hampshire
Volume:   20 Page:   1452
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 22 April 19 15:39 BST (UK)
No middle name given but I think this marriage can also be ruled out....

1912 marriage Portsmouth

Ethel M HAMBLING to William O'KEEFFE

Marjorie Ellen O'KEEFFE mn HAMBLING
1915  D Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 460   

Denis William O'KEEFFE mn HAMBLING
1917  M Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 503

this looks to be Ethel's death born c 1880

Ethel M O'KEEFFE age 75
Dec 1955 Portsmouth Volume: 6b Page:   458
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: oldhippy on Tuesday 23 April 19 09:55 BST (UK)
Are you agreed that its Ethel May Hambling that married Edward William Jackson for my tree?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 23 April 19 12:07 BST (UK)
1911 shows Ethel May Jackson born Gt Yarmouth  :-\

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X75V-Z5P

It looks as though Ethel May Jackson was born Great Yarmouth in 1886 and is not, therefore, the one you seek.
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 23 April 19 12:09 BST (UK)
See reply #2 re Ethel in 1911.
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: oldhippy on Tuesday 23 April 19 13:19 BST (UK)
With your help I have found out it is Edward William Jackson.

Thank you all for helping.
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 23 April 19 13:52 BST (UK)
With your help I have found out it is Edward William Jackson.

Thank you all for helping.

Do you mean that your Ethel married Jackson? Where did you find that?
Edward William Jackson's wife, was born in a different place and a different year.

Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: Annette7 on Tuesday 23 April 19 14:08 BST (UK)
With your help I have found out it is Edward William Jackson.

Thank you all for helping.

This is not correct - your Ethel May Hambling was still single in 1911.

Annette
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 23 April 19 14:32 BST (UK)
With your help I have found out it is Edward William Jackson.

Thank you all for helping.

This is not correct - your Ethel May Hambling was still single in 1911.

Annette

As in Reply #2
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: Annette7 on Tuesday 23 April 19 14:43 BST (UK)
I believe your Ethel May Hambling - bp.26/5/1889 Willingham - is the Edith M Hambling who married Cecil Henry Pegg in 1921 Yarmouth.   They had one daughter - Jean A. Pegg born in 1923 (now deceased).

Cecil's wife was born 25/4/1889 which would tie in with the baptism above.

Ethel M Pegg death - bc.1889 died Dec.1959 Acle, Norfolk.
Cecil Henry Pegg - born 28/11/1894, died 1973 North Walsham.

There is a tree on Ancestry for Cecil Henry Pegg showing Ethel May Hambling as his wife BUT they have mistakenly shown - probably because she married in Yarmouth - that she was the one born 1886 Yarmouth.   Wrong!  We have already shown that the 1886 Ethel May is the one who married Jackson in 1910 Yarmouth.   This is a clear example of people 'assuming' that as they married in Yarmouth that Ethel May must be the one born there 1886.   They don't have a death for Ethel May Pegg presumably because they can't find one for someone born ca.1886 - as already stated Cecil's wife was born 25/4/1889.

However, the only way to be certain that your Ethel May Hambling born 1889 is the one who married Cecil Henry Pegg in 1921 Yarmouth is by obtaining a copy of the marriage certificate.   

Annette
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 23 April 19 15:11 BST (UK)
That is interesting Annette. I had seen that but couldn’t connect them and thought the marriage a bit late.
I had also looked at the wrong Ethel M Pegg in 1939  ::)

Good find.
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: oldhippy on Tuesday 23 April 19 17:37 BST (UK)
I found the info about Jackson on another family tree. That person in the past has helped me before. So it is wrong?
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 23 April 19 18:41 BST (UK)
Yes, according to our findings based on the records.

I can see three trees which have the correct Ethel married to Edward Jackson. She is the daughter of Samuel and Hannah (Royal).

There is at least one with Ethel marrying in 1910 (wrong) and single in 1911  ::)
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: oldhippy on Wednesday 24 April 19 08:17 BST (UK)
Have you all decided that no one has a positive answer about whom she married?  :(
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 24 April 19 09:27 BST (UK)
Please read over the thread again.
It is your tree.
What do you think?
To be absolutely sure you should buy certificates.
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 24 April 19 10:00 BST (UK)
I think the right information is here in Annette’s post

I believe your Ethel May Hambling - bp.26/5/1889 Willingham - is the Edith M Hambling who married Cecil Henry Pegg in 1921 Yarmouth.   They had one daughter - Jean A. Pegg born in 1923 (now deceased).

Cecil's wife was born 25/4/1889 which would tie in with the baptism above.

Ethel M Pegg death - bc.1889 died Dec.1959 Acle, Norfolk.
Cecil Henry Pegg - born 28/11/1894, died 1973 North Walsham.

There is a tree on Ancestry for Cecil Henry Pegg showing Ethel May Hambling as his wife BUT they have mistakenly shown - probably because she married in Yarmouth - that she was the one born 1886 Yarmouth.   Wrong!  We have already shown that the 1886 Ethel May is the one who married Jackson in 1910 Yarmouth.   This is a clear example of people 'assuming' that as they married in Yarmouth that Ethel May must be the one born there 1886.   They don't have a death for Ethel May Pegg presumably because they can't find one for someone born ca.1886 - as already stated Cecil's wife was born 25/4/1889.

However, the only way to be certain that your Ethel May Hambling born 1889 is the one who married Cecil Henry Pegg in 1921 Yarmouth is by obtaining a copy of the marriage certificate.   

Annette
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 24 April 19 12:05 BST (UK)

Have you all decided that no one has a positive answer about whom she married?  :(


I think the right information is here in Annette’s post

I believe your Ethel May Hambling - bp.26/5/1889 Willingham - is the Edith M Hambling who married Cecil Henry Pegg in 1921 Yarmouth.   They had one daughter - Jean A. Pegg born in 1923 (now deceased).

Cecil's wife was born 25/4/1889 which would tie in with the baptism above.

Ethel M Pegg death - bc.1889 died Dec.1959 Acle, Norfolk.
Cecil Henry Pegg - born 28/11/1894, died 1973 North Walsham.

There is a tree on Ancestry for Cecil Henry Pegg showing Ethel May Hambling as his wife BUT they have mistakenly shown - probably because she married in Yarmouth - that she was the one born 1886 Yarmouth.   Wrong!  We have already shown that the 1886 Ethel May is the one who married Jackson in 1910 Yarmouth.   This is a clear example of people 'assuming' that as they married in Yarmouth that Ethel May must be the one born there 1886.   They don't have a death for Ethel May Pegg presumably because they can't find one for someone born ca.1886 - as already stated Cecil's wife was born 25/4/1889.

However, the only way to be certain that your Ethel May Hambling born 1889 is the one who married Cecil Henry Pegg in 1921 Yarmouth is by obtaining a copy of the marriage certificate.   

Annette

I agree that it certainly looks as if Annette has found the correct marriage - as mentioned to be 100% certain you would need to purchase the marriage certificate to check Ethel's  father's name

The 1923 birth entry for their daughter confirms mother's maiden name Hambling

Quote from: oldhippy

Ethel May Hambling abt 1889 Suffolk did she marry?

Parents Henry Hambling abt 1861 he married Elizabeth Crane both born in Suffolk


I posted her baptism at reply 3

Ethel May Hambling
Place   Sotterley
Mother Elizabeth
Father Henry occ Labourer
Baptism 26 May 1889 Parish  St Margaret
Residence   Willingham

As you gave her parents names as Henry & Elizabeth I'm assuming you had her birth certificate - if so, what was her date of birth - you can check it against the 1939 register
Title: Re: Ethel May Hambling
Post by: oldhippy on Wednesday 24 April 19 13:35 BST (UK)
I do not have any certificates. I’m going by the England & Wales, civil registration birth index 1837-1915 for Ethel May Hambling 1889 Q2 Apr-May-June. I have her as born Willingham, Suffolk, England

Her father was Henry Charles Hambling 1861- 1917 he died in the war. Mother was Elizabeth Crane 1865-1952