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Tom Anthony was my grandfather Jacob's brother, both born illegitimately to Elizabeth Anthony in Llanegwad area in 1874. In 1939 he was in Banctwrgwili, Penygroes, Llandebie where he married an Annie Morgan (Tidmarsh) in 1943 from Hawthorn Villa, Gorsleas. Shown on their marriage certificate. This was both their 2nd marriage. He was 69 and she was 47. He died in 1947 it appears in Parke Mill, Capel Isaac where there was another Annie Morgan. There was also an Annie Morgan living in the nearby farm Dolaugleision where we think he may have worked. Seems there are so many Annie Morgans linked to Tom's whereabouts. We are trying to zero in on Tom's burial place but proving difficult. Anyone got any ideas? Regards.
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was he baptised TOM or Thomas ? and which country is Cape Isaac in ? is it the one in Cornwall ?
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Capel Isaac is in Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire
Birth was registered as Tom
ANTHONY, TOM (No mothers maiden surname)-
1874 Sept Quarter in LLANDILOFAWR Volume 11A Page 821
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LAST NAME: Anthony
FIRST NAME: Jacob
MIDDLE NAME:
BIRTH YEAR: 1882
BIRTH PLACE: Llanegwad Carmarthenshire Llanegwad
COUNTY: Carmarthenshire
AGE: 9
GENDER: Male
Residence: Tynewydd
Hernin
Llanegwad, Carmarthenshire
Household Members:
Elizabeth Anthony (37, Female)
Jacob Anthony (9, Male)
so Tom has left home by 1891 aged 16/ 17 - do we know his occupation ?
ADDED A lodger aged 26 in 1901
LAST NAME: Anthony
FIRST NAME: Tom
MIDDLE NAME:
BIRTH YEAR: 1875
BIRTH PLACE: Llanegwad Carmarthenshire Llandebie Part Of
COUNTY: Carmarthenshire
AGE: 26
GENDER: Male
Residence: Commerce House, Bloeran Hamlet (part Of)
Llandebie Part Of, Carmarthenshire
Household Members:
Eleanor Hilton (40, Female)
George Hilton (6, Male)
Sarah J Hilton (5, Female)
John James (48, Male)
Tom Anthony (26, Male)
says a Lodger in census - but - Commerce House ?
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Free index to 1939 has
Annie Anthony (Morgan), born (Dec) 1893, living in Swansea C.B.
That one may have died in 1965
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=anthony&yearOfDeath=1965&page=1#calendar
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Related thread here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=809272.0
It is a long thread but Thomas/Tom is discussed from about reply #40
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he married an Annie Morgan (Tidmarsh) in 1943 from Hawthorn Villa, Gorsleas. Shown on their marriage certificate. This was both their 2nd marriage.
What was the name of Annie's father?
There is a marriage, Dec 1918, Llandovery, Annie Tidmarsh + David Morgan.
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deleted as just seen info already given
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I did actually add a link to that probate record to Reply #4
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Yes sorry, I noticed that after I had posted so deleted it before your reply
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But you didn't have to delete the whole reply ;D
The birth looked promising.
The question is, who is/was DER (in relation to Annie)
Can't see any Morgan-Tidmarsh births.
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We traced Tom to Banctwrgwili, Penygroes near Landybie in 1939, married Annie Morgan (Harry or Henry Tidmarsh) in 1943, he died in 1947 in Parke Mill, Capel Isaac. We don't know where Annie and Tom are buried. Tom's mother Elizabeth and his daughter, still-born, Rachel Hannah are buried in the churchyard of the church on the corner in Penygroes but no Tom. You'd think he was buried with them, but no. Is she the one that died in 1965?
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Quote from jonW65
Can't see any Morgan-Tidmarsh births.
A possibility perhaps :
Births Sep 1921
Morgans Jennie M MMN Tidmarsh Llandovery 11a 2589
Marriage for David and Annie Morgan (nee Tidmarsh):
Marriages Dec 1918
Morgan David Tidmarsh Llandovery 11a 1959
Tidmarsh Annie Morgan Llandovery 11a 1959
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A possibility perhaps :
Births Sep 1921
Morgans Jennie M MMN Tidmarsh Llandovery 11a 2589
That looks good. Well found.
You'd think he was buried with them, but no. Is she the one that died in 1965?
Burials can be very hard to find. Hope she might be the right Annie, but not certain.
John
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Quote from arwela on the other thread:
The witness on his death certificate is A Anthony from Felinparcau.
Any idea where Felinparcau is?
Have you considered that Tom may have been cremated?
Have you tried looking for an obituary at any of the libraries near to his place of death?
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This is the A Anthony from Felinparcau ( Parke Mill, Capel Isaac) that we have been working on.
Looking for proof leading up to her. We think she was the Annie Morgan (Tidmarsh) but not totally sure.
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Cremation is a possibility as he had no family left except for Jacob who was still alive. We don't know if they spoke to each other. Were there many cremations in 1947 when Tom died?
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Tom was born 8th June 1874 at Typicca farm, illegitimate son of Elizabeth, when old enough ended up as a buliders' labourer in Penygroes, Carmarthenshire.