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Title: Searching for a family member
Post by: hamali on Thursday 09 May 19 15:08 BST (UK)
Hi there,

Im trying to trace a William Greenaway Poole who married a Elizabeth Sarah Perry on the 19/5/1830.

They had a daughter called Catherine Elizabeth Poole born 5/9/1835 Camberwell London.

But I just cant seem to find them in 1841 or any other census at all.

Would love to find out if had more kids & Williams & Elizabeth's parents.

Any help to point me in the right direction would be great thanks
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 09 May 19 15:24 BST (UK)
Is Catherine the person who married Henry George Hamilton, Spitalfields,November 1859?

Her father is given as William Poole, clerk. The record suggests that he is alive as Henry's father is marked as Deceased.

Gadget
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 15:24 BST (UK)
You can check birth registrations with the surnames Poole and Perry on the GRO birth index to see if they had more children. 

Have you checked death registers for them or a marriage for Catherine?
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 09 May 19 15:25 BST (UK)
I think we posted at same time, Milliepede. 

I found a marriage for/a Catherine in 1859.
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 15:27 BST (UK)
Yes we did.  I see the marriage you found, looks promising. 

Residence at time of marriage for Catherine was 20 Union Street.
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: hamali on Thursday 09 May 19 15:30 BST (UK)
Hi yes got the marriage for Catherine to Henry Ive got the marriage cert
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 15:32 BST (UK)
In 1861 Catherine and Henry have a baby son Henry but in 1871 son Henry age 10 has a mother Mary  so has Catherine died  :-\
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 15:37 BST (UK)
Looking for Poole/Perry births there is a

Clarence Bland Poole born Mar 1839 St Luke Middlesex

and a possible death for that name in Jun 1842 age 3 West Derby
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: hamali on Thursday 09 May 19 15:37 BST (UK)
Yes henry goes on to marry a Mary Pyne  in 1865 :)
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: hamali on Thursday 09 May 19 15:42 BST (UK)
just so annoying I cant find Clarence  Bland Poole in  the 1841 census  >:(
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 15:43 BST (UK)
Ah here's another baptism

Catharine Boulton Poole 17 Aug 1834 - born 20 Aug 1833

father William Greenaway Poole

mother Elizabeth Sarah Poole
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 15:50 BST (UK)
Death for William Greenaway Poole

Jun 1868 Greenwich age 61
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 15:54 BST (UK)
Now that links to a marriage in Dec 1857 Greenwich

Mary Ann Lowndes Freeman
Thomas John Morris
Susannah Pocknell
William Greenaway Poole

Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: hamali on Thursday 09 May 19 15:57 BST (UK)
Yep have found William in 1861 living with a Mary A Poole so this must be his 2nd marriage
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 15:58 BST (UK)
William marries Mary Ann.  He is a widower, occupation gent.  Father William occupation gent. 

Mary Ann also a widow.  Both of full age.  Her father Thomas Lowndes occupation gent.

So what do we reckon to that - same person?
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: hamali on Thursday 09 May 19 16:00 BST (UK)
I think it is the same person ;D
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 16:01 BST (UK)
There's an Elizabeth Sarah Poole death in Westminster Mar 1856 age 49. 

So just the 1841 and 1851 census to find  ;D
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 16:09 BST (UK)
Found a family tree with another child listed - Victoria in 1837. 

Am speculating the first Catharine died and the next baby was called Catherine after her.

Yes burial for her 25 Apr 1835 St Giles Camberwell.
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 09 May 19 16:10 BST (UK)
William Greenaway Poole
Baptism    04 Mar 1807
Chatham, Kent
Parents William & Mary Poole
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: hamali on Thursday 09 May 19 16:10 BST (UK)
yes that is one of the kids just found birth on findmy past
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: hamali on Thursday 09 May 19 16:14 BST (UK)
Just tried looking for Victoria Poole in 1841 census but nothing comes up not even a death for her very annoying indeed & nothing for 1851 either.
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 16:16 BST (UK)
Coincidence with Clarence (if he belongs to the family) but death for Victoria Poole same district as Clarence West Derby Jun 1842 age 4. 

Could both children have been sent away together?  Bit of a mystery for sure. 
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: hamali on Thursday 09 May 19 16:22 BST (UK)
Funny that both Clarence & Victoria died same year 1842
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 16:26 BST (UK)
And the same quarter.

Out of curiosity I might be getting the death for one of them if they were mine but where are they both in 1841  ???

 
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Richard Knott on Thursday 09 May 19 16:27 BST (UK)
An 1845 bankruptcy case lists his addresses in Toxteth Park, Liverpool (where he was clerk to a solicitor) and previously Camberwell (where he was a vestry clerk from Jan - Aug 1838).

33 Toxteth St; 48 Park St; 182 Mill St (all in Toxteth Park)

Between Camberwell and Toxteth he was at 33 & 34 Bishopsgate St, London

Richard
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 09 May 19 16:30 BST (UK)
Ah that's interesting and links him to the area the 2 children died.
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: Richard Knott on Thursday 09 May 19 16:31 BST (UK)
Also here:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=393894.0
Title: Re: Searching for a family member
Post by: josey on Thursday 09 May 19 17:02 BST (UK)
Maybe threads should be merged as rosie's find in reply #18 was already found in other thread - 10 years ago?