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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Topic started by: wilcoxon on Thursday 09 May 19 15:41 BST (UK)
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Can anyone find these people, With this info it should be easy but I`m stumped. I can`t find then in 1861 or before their marriage.
Thanks.
18 October 1856
On the 14th ult, at Meivod, by the Rev, David Evans, Mr. Thomas Manley, of the Rosset, near Gresford, to Lucy Ann, only daughter of Daniel Luck, Esq, Meivod, near Welshpool.
The first time I find them is in 1871 after their marriage.
1871 Wrexham , there are younger children
Thomas Manley 42 b Gresford
Lucy Ann Manley 35 Clifton, Bristol
Caroline Ann Manley 12 b Wrexham
Richd Wm Manley 11 b Wrexham
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There were some parts of the area missing from the 1861, including my great grandfather, his brother and step mother. It could be that they were on one of the missing pages :-\
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See
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/census-for-england-wales-and-scotland-missing-pieces
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Helpful clue about her Clifton connection
1851 she's living in barracks in Trowbridge, WIltshire. Ancestry has mixed up all the people so has ascribed her the wrong father. Ref is HO107, 1840, 601, 56
Family group
Danl Luck - 50. Troop sgt major b Asply Guise, Bedfordshire
Catherine Luck - 50. Wife b Woolwich
Lucy Luck - 17 b Clifton
Robert Luck - 10 b Norwich
An obit for Thomas Manley refers to Lucy's uncle, General Sir George Luck. Quite an eminent soldier, who was overseas at times. Another of his nieces, a Miss Pole, spent time with him in India
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Daniel has records in the Chelsea Pensioner files on Fold3 (can;t access myself) He was in the 8th Regt Of Hussars.
The India based George Luck may be the next generation, as he was in his 60s in the early 1900s
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The son Robert Daniel Luck died in 1870 - death registered in Wrexham. Probate has him as provisions dealer and grocer of Queen ST, Wrexham
His baptism lists his mother as Caroline
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Think mother is Caroline not Catherine. There's a Caroline Luck b Woolwich c1796 in Wrexham on the 1871 census (as Caroline Suck on Ancestry)
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Thanks a lot, a great help.
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Lucy Ann Luck bp.16/2/1834 Clifton, dau. of Daniel and Caroline.
Annette
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Thomas Manley b.15/5/1828, bp.8/6/1828 Gresford, Denbighshire, son of Richard , miller, and Mary.
Annette
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Hi just to add Robert Daniel Luck was buried 31st December 1870 Brymbo aged 29 his address Wrexham ??
Keyboard86
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Caroline Luck age 82
Burial date 15 Jul 1878
Place Wrexham
Parish Brymbo
County Denbighshire Wales
Record set Denbighshire Burials
Daniel Luck age 65
Burial date 03 May 1865
Place Wrexham
Parish Brymbo
County Denbighshire Wales
Record set Denbighshire Burials
Daniel Luck
Birth year 1801
Birth Aspley Guire Woburn Bedfordshire
Service number 211
Rank TROOP SERGEANT MAJOR
Regiment 8th Regt Of Hussars
Year 1825
Attestation date 24 Feb 1825
Attestation age years 24
Discharge corps 8th Regt Of Hussars
Discharge service number 211
Document type Discharge
Record set British Army Service Records
Details on F M P
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The son Robert Daniel Luck died in 1870 - death registered in Wrexham. Probate has him as provisions dealer and grocer of Queen ST, Wrexham
His baptism lists his mother as Caroline
This looks like his marriage both father and sons occ publicans
Robert Daniel Luck f/a
Marriage 24 Feb 1864 Rossett
Father Daniel Luck
Spouse Alice Mercer Roberts
Spouse's father's John Roberts
Record set Denbighshire Marriages And Banns
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Richard Manley and Mary Woolrich married 2/5/1826 Gresford, Denbighshire
Can't find family on census although Richard and Mary had a number of children.
Annette
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Thomas Manley doesn't appear to have been a particularly successful businessman
For example
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4593686/4593695/90/ (scroll down a bit)
Also bankrupt in 1878
On the other hand he was a councillor
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Thomas Manley Age 90
70 Alexander Road
Burial date 05 Mar 1919
Place Wrexham
Parish Brymbo Denbighshire
Lucy Ann Manley Age 80
70 Alexander Road
Burial date 09 Jun 1915
Place Wrexham
Parish Brymbo Denbighshire
Record set Denbighshire Burials
Edit - this link has headstone
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/133934920
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Thomas & Lucy 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7VD-8CY
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DISSOLUTION OF PARTNERSHIP.
T MANLEY, Wholesale and Retail WINE and SPIRIT MERCHANT, 26, High-street Wrexham, begs to thank his Friends and the Public generally, for their most Liberal support during the last five years he has been in business with his Father-in-law, Mr Luck. And begs to state that he has now taken to the business on his own account, and trusts by supplying a Genuine Article, combined with strict attention to all orders entrusted to his care, to merit a continuance of their support.
Wrexham and Denbighshire Advertiser and Cheshire Shropshire and North Wales Register
7th November 1863
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Daniel Luck was landlord of the Fleece Inn, Hope Street, Wrexham in the 1860s. He gives up the licence in 1869
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Magdalen Luck bn 3rd Oct
Baptism 26 Dec 1832 Woolwich St Mary Magdalene, Greenwich
Father: Daniel Luck Sgt 8th Hussars Mother: Caroline
Abode Hedge Row
Magdalena Luck age 2
Death year 1835
Place Heston
Dedication St Leonard
Inscription Sacred / to the memory of / MAGDALENA LUCK, daughter / of Color Sergt. Major LUCK / of the 8th Hussars / (of Hounslow Barracks) / in this Parish / who departed this life / May 19th 1835 / aged 2 years & 7 months / See Israel's gentle Shepperd Stands / with all enjoying Charmes / Hark how he Calls the tender Lambs / and folds them in his Armes / Permit them to a fold he Cries / nor scorn their humble name / for it was to bless such souls as these / the Lord of Angels came.
Monument type Headstone with footstone
Memorial reference B90
Position reference Churchyard (Old Ground)
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Thanks for all this extra information, very interesting.