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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wicklow => Topic started by: ceeceedon on Thursday 09 May 19 18:45 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find out information about my G-G-G-Grandfather Adam Glover. His son, John Glover was born about 1836 and married Bessie Collins April 19, 1860 in Rathdrum, Wiclow, Ireland. All I have is that his father's name was Adam and I am pretty sure Adam was a police constable in Athy. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Cindy
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According to his marriage certificate, John’s occupation at the time of his marriage was Commercial Clerk. His address was Athy. His father was named as Adam Glover. No occupation.
The RIC records on Ancestry don’t contain any Adam Glover entries.
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Thank you Elwyn,
That is about the only information that I do have.
Cindy
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There was an Adam Glover who was a Constable, the Lenister Express 1851, has a Constable Adam Glover Kilmarony Queens County giving evidence.
September 6 1841 Constable Adam Glover Ballynakill and Ballyroan again Queens County.
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There was a Constable Glover in Athy in 1835 (an election)
Two cases in the Kildare Assizes 1843 and 1847 with a Constable Glover, 1843 give his as Head Constable no first name on any of these so may not be the same man or may be more that one man.
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Thank you,
I have found other listings like that from Athy but can't find anything that ties him to the family. Athy is where his son John's kids are listed as being born. A long time ago someone sent me a transcript of Adam's son, John's marriage. It listed John's father as Adam Glover, Police Constable. The father of John's wife,Bessie Collins, was listed as Chief Constable.
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I had another look at the marriage on a pay to view site. I see now that fathers occupations are given. They appear in the footnotes, and not on the main information section:
GROOM: 24 BRIDE: 23, GROOMS FATHERS OCC: POLICE CONSTABLE , BRIDES FATHERS OCC: HEAD CONSTABLE
Head Constable was a rank above sergeant but below Inspector. It has no equivalent today.
A useful thing to know about the RIC was that they did not allow officers to serve in the county they were born in or where they had a family connections. So any RIC Officer serving in Athy almost certainly didn’t originate in Co. Kildare.
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After 1860 Constable Glover appears in Kerry 1872 and 1873, no result after than, nothing for Adam Glover.
What was Bessie's father's name?
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There was a Head Constable Collins 1858 in an inquest of a man killed by the Wicklow to Dublin train at Kinnekilly (Murrough).
After 1860 all the results for Head Constable Collins are in the Belfast Newsletter.
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Thank you Elwyn and Sinann for all this information.
Cindy
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There was an Adam Glover spouse Esther McNeil somewhere in Ireland right time period
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24ZR-WHP
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Thought i had the wrong will index for John 1878 wife Mary
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014894/005014894_00549.pdf
but then i saw his marriage 1872 son of Adam a gentleman in Drogheda to Mary Myles
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11324/8155708.pdf
male born 1876
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03032/2111537.pdf
possibly William James
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Dock_Limerick_Urban_No__4/Military_Road/1501877/
marriage 1905 to Elizabeth Margaret Robertson in Dublin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10174/5701503.pdf
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Charleville_Road/64681/
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dathai,
Thank you so much.
This is fantastic!!
Cindy
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When William James Glover married in 1905 his witness was William James Preston who appears to be his cousin through his mother Frances Myles
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1876/11158/8087385.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Waterloo_Road/1289471/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Rathgar_Road/64203/
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Thank you dathai, It took a bit to see the connection but i got it.
Cindy
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Mary Myles/Glover appears to have returned to Drogheda with her son and died there in 1896 aged about 55
number 10
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05899/4673843.pdf
Administration to Isabella Myles August 1896
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014909/005014909_00562.pdf
Administration of unadministered est Dec 1896 to W J Glover 6 South Parade,Wexford
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014910/005014910_00091.pdf
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William James Glover died 1957
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1957/04393/4142572.pdf
Elizabeth Margaret died same address 1990
son William Sydney 1985 buried Mt Jerome ,Dublin
2430
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1headstones/mt-jerome17.htm
photo
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/mt-jerome-17/target29.html
William Sydney left a Will
click on Search the online catalogue
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/
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The date of 1990 transcribed for Elizabeth Margaret above is wrong should be 1950
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04517/4189071.pdf
there is also administration of her est on the N As site above
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This may be one of the Glovers appearing in the court files early 1800s
James Glover died 1884 Shruleen a police pensioner
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1884/06314/4810590.pdf
a case in the Kildare Observer ,August 1881 describes him as head ex constable on £26 a year
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dathai,
Thank you so much for all the unbelievable information you have found. It is greatly appreciated. I am passing it on to other cousins as well.
The death of James Glover, constable, is interesting because Adam Glover was a constable as well.
Thank you again,
Cindy
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Not sure if this means the actual Will's exist ?
ref 999/72 Temporary Deposit 25th June 1975
see pages 94 and 95
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/PDF/SmallPrivateAccessions.pdf
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Not sure, thank you though.