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Title: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: robnich27 on Saturday 11 May 19 00:18 BST (UK)
hi all
i am new to this site, and geneology
my great grand father was Capt John William Nicholson, with a with by the name of Ann Katrine Nicholson
both buried in the Hillsborough cemetry in AK, New Zealand

what i am trying to do is to find his relatives
i have his birth date as 8 July , but cant find one that matches 1846?? 1851..yes
i think his parents were John and Hannah
i dont know of ang siblingss
i know he had an uncle who came to NZ, and built a  house in Mangonui, and had something to do with the Customs
any info would be greattly appriciated

Rob

also i have done a DNA test
it is on Myheritage
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 03:31 BST (UK)
Hi Rob and welcome to RootsChat

Rather than have your query get lost on someone elses thread I will ask the Moderator to start a new thread for you,

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 03:42 BST (UK)
The marriage from NZ BDM's
1875/2209   Anna Katrine   Pederson   to John William   Nicholson

Children
1876/17019   Nicholson   Ane Christine/   Ane Katrine/   John William
1878/6931           Nicholson   George William/   Annie Katrina/   John William   
1880/9190    Nicholson   Albert/   Ane Katrina/   John William   
1882/1120    Nicholson   Alfred Roy/   Annie Katrine/   John William   
1883/14765   Nicholson   Eva Maud/   Anna Katrine/   John William
1886/9423          Nicholson   Masen Violet/   Anna Katrine/   John William

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 03:47 BST (UK)
Name   NICHOLSON, ANNA KATRINA
Details   F: Died 21-03-1935: Aged 81: Cause of death - old age: Date of burial - 22 Mar 1935
Place   Hillsborough
Location   Area 4 Block E Lot No 41
Remarks   
Corrections - death notiice & MI have KATRINA not KATRINE: Headstone: Yes
Information   Occuptation - widow: Residence - Epsom Infirmary: Anglican: Native place - Dalmatia: Last from Dalmatia: Years in NZ - 70
Officiating   Officiating Clergy - Rev Sullivan: Informant - C Little & sons

Name   NICHOLSON, ANNA KATRINE
Details   F: Died 21-03-1935: Aged 81:
Place   Hillsborough
Location   Area 4 Block E Lot No 41
Remarks   (very broken headstone)transcribed inscription reads" In loving memory of Capt J W Nicholson died 28 June 1928 aged...... Also his beloved wife Anna Katrina died 21 Mar 1935 aged......" (Parkinson & Bouskill)

Name   NICHOLSON, JOHN WILLIAM
Details   M: Died 28-06-1928: Aged 82: Cause of death - old age: Date of burial - 29 Jun 1928
Place   Hillsborough
Location   Area 4 Block E Lot No 41
Remarks   Headstone: Yes
Information   Occuptation - sea captain: Residence - 6 Hackett St, Ponsonby: Anglican: Native place - England: Last from Middlesex, England: Years in NZ - 62
Officiating   Officiating Clergy - Rev Averill: Informant - C Little & sons

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: robnich27 on Saturday 11 May 19 03:50 BST (UK)
Cheers  Jeannete
they are the correct nicholsons  you mention
i am trying to go further back, back am a liitle stuck

hopefully the DNA test will help some

rob
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 03:52 BST (UK)
Obituary

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19280629.2.107?query=john%20william%20nicholson&sort_by=byDA&items_per_page=100&page=2&start_date=01-01-1928&end_date=31-12-1928&snippet=true

Death notice

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19280629.2.2.4?query=john%20william%20nicholson&sort_by=byDA&items_per_page=100&page=2&start_date=01-01-1928&end_date=31-12-1928&snippet=true

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 03:56 BST (UK)
Hi Rob

You could purchase the death printout for J W Nicholson,hopefully the informant knew the required information

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/dataCollected/death

If so his parents should be named

Parents

Name and Surname of father
Name and if known maiden surname of mother
Rank or profession or occupation of father

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: robnich27 on Saturday 11 May 19 04:00 BST (UK)
thanks for all that
i have been looking for that newspaper cutting, i did have that..from an original..but i lost ALL my family tree stuff a few years back
am having to start from freash
and will order his death cert next week, along with his wifes one too

rob
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 04:07 BST (UK)
Rob,

Get the printouts NOT the certs.They often have more information and the bonus is they are cheaper too ;D ;D

It seems they divorced in 1908

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=16697023

If you are in Auckland the divorce is available to be viewed at Archives in Mangere

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: robnich27 on Saturday 11 May 19 04:07 BST (UK)
his wedding cert does not state who his parents were
so hopefully his death cert will

rob
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: robnich27 on Saturday 11 May 19 04:09 BST (UK)
oh.. i did not know they were divorced
that would explain a comment one of my aunties made  about them being buried together..makes sense now..

rob
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 04:15 BST (UK)
Maybe the divorce wasn't finalised

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers?items_per_page=100&query=anna+katrine+nicholson&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: robnich27 on Saturday 11 May 19 04:18 BST (UK)
he died first

my aunt said he would turn in his grave if he knew she was next to him...all makes sense now
at least i was not the first nicholson to divorce
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: robnich27 on Saturday 11 May 19 04:27 BST (UK)
are you related to this line in some way??
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 04:29 BST (UK)
No just helping you find more information

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: robnich27 on Saturday 11 May 19 04:34 BST (UK)
well your amazing.. you coming up with all this info,,
i thought you had been researching already.....had info on hand.....

gez.....i GOT A LOT to learn
i better have a beer

Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: spades on Saturday 11 May 19 05:50 BST (UK)
Hi Rob, and welcome to RootsChat :)

I think your investigation deserves a topic of its own!

How about I split your discussion from the original topic and create a new one for you, perhaps entitled John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON. I can then place the new topic on the main New Zealand Board where it will gain more views and responses.

Spades
Moderator
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 06:37 BST (UK)
Thanks Spades

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 11 May 19 06:45 BST (UK)
A photograph of the said mariner.....

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19280629.2.17.1?query=captain%20j.%20w.%20nicholson&items_per_page=100&phrase=2&start_date=01-01-1908&end_date=31-12-1950&snippet=true


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 11 May 19 07:00 BST (UK)
An interesting interview with the captain about three months before his death........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19280321.2.132?query=nicholson&items_per_page=100&phrase=2&start_date=01-03-1928&end_date=31-03-1928&snippet=true&title=AS


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 11 May 19 07:07 BST (UK)
Death notice for Anna Katrina......

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19350322.2.2.3?query=anna%20nicholson&items_per_page=100&start_date=01-01-1935&end_date=31-12-1935&snippet=true&title=KWE,NZ,NZH,PWT,ROTWKG,TO,ACNZC,AKTIM,NZHAG,FRTIM,ALG,AS,DSC


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 11 May 19 07:34 BST (UK)
Birth of a daughter [1876]……

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18760926.2.6?query=%20nicholson%20birth&items_per_page=100&start_date=01-01-1875&end_date=31-12-1876&snippet=true&title=KWE,NZ,NZH,PWT,ROTWKG,TO,ACNZC,AKTIM,NZHAG,FRTIM,ALG,AS,DSC


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 11 May 19 08:07 BST (UK)
Hello Rob,

Have you been in contact with any branch(es) of the descendants of J. W. Nicholson? Who may be able to provide the information you require?

I have had a quick look at one branch:

Marriage:
1907/117   Violet Maren^   Nicholson   Harry Francis   Carter

Birth:
1908/1723   **Carter   Ernest George   Violet Maren   Harry Francis

Death:
1976/41075   Carter   Violet Maren   31 July 1886

Death:
2007/27807   **Carter   Ernest George   13 January 1908

[I have the death notice for Ernest George Carter. If you wish I can send it to you.]

^Recorded as 'Masen' in her birth record.


Death:
1883/6373   Nicholson   Alfred Roy   5M


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 08:22 BST (UK)


Name   CARTER, VIOLET MAREN
Details   F: Died 14-07-1976: Aged 89:
Place   Hillsborough
Location   Area 11 Block B Lot No 362
Remarks   transcribed inscription reads "In loving memory of Harry Francis beloved husband of Violet Carter died 14 Jan 1939 aged 59 yrs Also his wife Violet Maren/Maren died 14 July 1976 in her 90th yr."
Headstone: Yes
Information   D.O.B. 31 Jul 1886:

Name   CARTER, HARRY FRANCIS
Details   M: Died 14-01-1939: Aged 58: Date of burial - 16 Jan 1939
Place   Hillsborough
Location   Area 11 Block B Lot No 362
Remarks   Headstone: Yes
Information   Occuptation - traveller: Residence - 21 Wilson St, Grey Lynn: Anglican: Native place - NZ: Last from Blenheim: Years in NZ - life
Officiating   Officiating Clergy - Canon Hodges: Informant - C Little & sons

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 11 May 19 08:42 BST (UK)
Another branch:

Marriage:
1897/3746   Annie Christine   Nicholson   Charles James   Collings

Births:
1900/14916   Collings   Annie Lillian   Annie Christine   Charles James   -   

1904/16968   Collings   Dorothy May   Annie Christine   Charles James   -   

1898/10471   Collings   Alexander John   Annie Christine   Charles James      

Death:
1926/3804   Collings   Annie Christine   50Y

Death notice:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers?items_per_page=100&snippet=true&query=christine+collings&start_date=01-01-1926&end_date=31-12-1926

Death:
1967/38260   Collings   Alexander John   69Y

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 09:33 BST (UK)
Cremated at Purewa

Surname   COLLINGS
First Names   Alexander John
Date of Death   08 Nov 1967
Date of Service    10 Nov 1967
   Funeral Director   Sibuns Funeral Advisors, 582 Remuera Road, Remuera, AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal   Returned
Book Of Remembrance   Yes

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Janette on Saturday 11 May 19 09:36 BST (UK)
Surname   COLLINGS
First Names   Annie Christine
Age   50 Years
Gender   Female
Date of Death   03 May 1926
Funeral Director   C Little & Sons, P O Box 26-003, Epsom, AUCKLAND
Cemetery   Purewa Cemetery
Location   Block E Row 50 Plot 163
Date of  Interment   4 May 1926

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: robnich27 on Saturday 11 May 19 20:29 BST (UK)
i have only been in touch with 2 of my cousins,
one here in Ak, the other in vancouver
i gave them acess to my tree on myheritage, but so far they have not added anything to it
i have also done a DNA test, so i am hoping that will turn up some links i dont know of


rob
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 13 May 19 07:42 BST (UK)
The bankruptcy [1881] of John William Nicholson.....

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18811029.2.30.6?query=john%20william%20nicholson&phrase=2&page=2&snippet=true

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: John William NICHOLSON & Ann Katrine PEDERSON
Post by: Darren Clarke on Monday 07 December 20 02:58 GMT (UK)
Doing research on George Charles Carter , wife Alexandria Tybrand nee Fabian . Blenheim NZ
Son was Harry Francis Carter 1879-1939 married a Masen Violet Nee Nicholson 1886-1976 .

Her parents (Masen) was Captain John William Nicholson 1846-1928 married Anna Katrine Pedersen or Pederson? 1854-1935.
Anna was Danish. Masen's brother was George William Nicholson 1878-1968 was a All Black. Visited Uk 1905.