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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: cumbria nige on Sunday 12 May 19 19:31 BST (UK)
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Can SKS help in directing me, please?
I'm looking for a trace on William Edwin Ernest Newman thought to have been born in Peckham, London in 1902 and died somewhere in or around Sydney in 1957. Little else is known about him
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No birth reg with all 3 christian names. What else do you know about him? Parents/siblings etc
What document do you have with all 3 christian names?
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I know very little. I'm not even sure that he died in Sydney, let alone died there in 1957
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Is this him?
Births
William Ernest E Newman Sept Qtr 1902 Camberwell 1d 899
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GRO online search shows him as William Ernest Edwin mothers maiden name Higgins
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I can see only one marriage for a William E E Newman and that was in 1922 Frome Somerset
What is your interest in him?
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I'm certain that the 3 christian names are correct. There were given to me by the Guild of One Named Studies, as they appear on a marriage certificate to Dorothy May Millard in Frome, Somerset in 1922. On that certificate 'gunner 1025197 RAMC' appears which I assume is something to do with the military. Maybe, after or during the war, he was posted out there and remained after the war. Maybe, there is a connection - a distant one
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Probable marriage for parents
Edward Ernest Newman to Lily Louisa Higgins March qtr 1902 Camberwell 1d 1242
The 1922 marriage I mentioned above was to Dorothy M Millard
Although christian names are correct - they appear in a different order on his birth reg
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A Dorothy May Millard was born Frome in 1897 so 5yrs older than William
See www.freebmd.org.uk
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The 1922 Marriage certificate has him named as 'William Edwin Ernest'
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A daughter was born in Frome in 1927
How are you connected to this family?
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I'm not sure I am connected. I could be, but don't know for certain. Do you know if there are any available records for the Sydney 'area' which would confirm a death?
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From a tree on Ancestry
The death on 2.10.1957 was William Edward (not Edwin) Ernest Newman b 6.6.1902 London - parents same as in my earlier reply so Edward may be a mistake by the tree holder
Spouse is shown as Lottie Jones b 1918 NSW. No mention of Dorothy Millard or a marriage date to Lottie
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I have sent an email to the tree holder with the link to this post
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Thanks. I had a look at that tree and I think it's pretty inconclusive. I couldn't see a link to any email address to attempt o make contact with the tree holder but thanks for doing so
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There are a number of family trees on Ancestry which provide a host of information on William. I have been able to send an email to one of the tree holders - the one showing most information on William.
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Hi,
Can SKS help in directing me, please?
I'm looking for a trace on William Edwin Ernest Newman thought to have been born in Peckham, London in 1902 and died somewhere in or around Sydney in 1957. Little else is known about him
Here is the live link to the NSW resources board, full of great live links to many free to search NSW resources:
Three options come immediately to mind for a search for a death that likely occurred more than 30 years ago in New South Wales…
NSW BDM online index for death
NSW State Archives online index for possible probate
Ryerson Index for possible newspaper cutting for death/funeral/probate announcement
All three of those organisations are included in the NSW Resources.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369703.0
https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history-research/family-history-research-nsw.aspx (best option if you want a NSW BDM cert for family history purposes is to order an official transcription via the transcription agents noted on that website and on RChat’s NSW Resources)
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/ (search by Collection & Research option can be a good option there, and if you want a copy of a probate record, you can ask for an RChatter to add it to their list for next visit to the Archives)
https://www.ryersonindex.org/
NSW BDM has a death registered in 1957 indexed as:
William Edward NEWMAN aged 56 years. Death registered in Sydney. #26728/1957. Father ‘s given name displayed as Edward Ernest.
Edward and Edwin are interchangeable names in NSW. NSW BDM do not undertake cross checking of the informant driven section of their death registrations, but the document does have the option to provide information about a) the deceased’s marriage/s, children of the marriage/s and b) the deceased’s parents and c) the usual address, occupation, and the age and place of birth of the deceased. Plus of course the medico signs off on the cause/s of death and the funeral director provides their information too, crematorium or cemetery and the funeral director lodges the paperwork.
ADD https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history-research/registry-records.aspx
Death
Full name, sex, age, date & place of death, place of residence, occupation and marital status.
Place of marriage, age when married, full name of spouse. Children's name and ages. Parents' names and mother's maiden name.
Cause of death and duration of last illness. Burial or cremation date and place.
JM
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Baptism @ St John Horsleydown Surrey. 11.6.1902
William Ernest Edwin Newman parents Ernest & Lilly
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Brilliant responses. Thank you. Give me some time to word through the information given
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death notice for William Edward NEWMAN died 2.10.1957 list wife Lottie and brother Len
cass
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A marriage in NSW
21644/1949 SYDNEY
NEWMAN William Edward Ernest
JONES Lottie