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Title: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: Aaron Pitt on Monday 13 May 19 13:52 BST (UK)
Hi All
I hope I've posted in the right area, its been a while.
Im searching for my grandmothers birth mother. Her name was Louisa Davis and 18yo single girl from Burnie Tasmania.  She gave birth to my grandmother Marjorie Jean Davis 24th Jan 1920. But had her adopted out on the 16th March 1921. I have a number of documents ( consent to adopt , Order of adoption ) but I seem to be drawing a blank on the name Louisa Davis fitting the loose criteria of being born about 1902 in Tasmania. I understand she might not have been born in Tasmania or it might not have been her birth name of Louisa that has been signed on these forms. I have come across a few Louisa Davis name but they all don't match that well to require further investigation.
Only to happy to provide any more info if required
Thanks
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 14 May 19 04:09 BST (UK)


Birth Certificate, 24 Jan 1920, for Marjorie Jean DAVIS - can you please list all the information on this document.

Is it a transcription, or image of a hand written document?

Consent to adopt - how many pages to this  please?

Order of Adoption - how many pages to this please?

Did Marjorie Jean keep these names after adoption?

Have you researched the origins of the adopting parents?
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: majm on Tuesday 14 May 19 04:43 BST (UK)
Hi,  :) 

The Mercury 11 June 1917  https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1076577 
DAVIS In loving memory of a dearly beloved mother, Louisa Davis, WHO DEPARTED THIS LIFE June 11,1916 … 
Inserted by her loving husband, Thomas Davis, son and daughters, Ambrose, Louisa, Myrtle and Linda.


https://www.libraries.tas.gov.au/how-to/Pages/Names-Index-content.aspx

I think that that lass, Louisa,ie the daughter of Louisa and Thomas DAVIS, was born in Tasmania in October 1898.  She would have turned 18 in 1916, - have you eliminated that lass from your research?  :D  :D it may not be your lass, but have you eliminated her from your searchings...  :)

 You may find that the age for the baby's mum on that 1920 birth is the age that was recorded by the registrar, perhaps more as a guestimate - I am not familiar with Tas BDM admin from that era (or any era) but if it were NSW, even into the 1960s, then I am certain there was NO requirement for the baby's mum or dad to prove their name, age, place of birth - basically in NSW well into the 20th century, the informant (usually mum or dad) when registering a birth only needed to provide the information, (remember not everyone completed their compulsory schooling) 
So, after the clerk had written it all down in the ledger facing the clerk, he would then swing the ledger book around, and likely point to the sprt then perhaps say to mum or dad   'sign here' (even today, people can be asked to 'sign here' or 'swipe here'  and not actually be asked to 'read through this and then if it is correct in every detail, sign here'.  )

 https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-86p138j2k
 
Here is the marriage for Thomas and Louisa in 1885

https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-44p437j2k

JM 
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: Aaron Pitt on Wednesday 29 May 19 13:39 BST (UK)
Sorry for the time i have taken to reply, work and family does get a little hectic at times. I can attach the documents to this post if you like. Is that allowed?
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: wivenhoe on Thursday 30 May 19 06:01 BST (UK)
Can you please list all the information on the birth certificate. Can you also describe the document.....image of handwritten original, or typed transcription.

Consent to adopt - how many pages to this document.

Order of adoption - how many pages to this document.

I do not know what copyright restrictions might apply to using these adoption documents on a public forum. Someone might be able to advise.

Does the adoption involve an orphanage, or was the matter conducted by a solicitor?
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: Aaron Pitt on Monday 03 June 19 13:19 BST (UK)
I have have attached 3 documents that might help. I also have a "Record of birth" but that only has her adoptive parents names on it. Im happy to remove these documents if needed. These seem to be the only documents I have. Im not sure if the adoption involved solicitors

thanks
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 04 June 19 01:28 BST (UK)

That  adoption documents give good information.

Do you have the birth certificate for Marjorie Jean DAVIS, born 24 Jan 1920. Can you list all the information on it please.
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 04 June 19 07:22 BST (UK)
Her name was Louisa Davis and 18yo single girl from Burnie Tasmania.

Where is this information from?

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: Aaron Pitt on Sunday 16 June 19 12:52 BST (UK)
Hi
Sorry for not replying as frequently as I would like to but time does not always allow me.
I have attached the birth certificate of Marjorie Jean post adoption.
As for the info "Her name was Louisa Davis and 18yo single girl from Burnie Tasmania" I had it on some notes that I had recieved from my dad who was investigating this quite a while ago, but I have just recently found a letter that was written to my dad in relation to Louisa Davis from the Dept. of Health and Human Services in Tasmania. This is where that info must have came from. I have attached this as well. I wish I found this info a while ago it might of helped me a lot sooner.
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: Aaron Pitt on Sunday 16 June 19 12:56 BST (UK)
Sorry about the size of the attachments, I cant seem to change how big they are
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: wivenhoe on Monday 17 June 19 07:29 BST (UK)
In 1979 your mother received a copy of her birth record, recording her adopted parents.

The letter, which I suspect is also written 1979, makes reference to the original birth record for Myrtle Jean, born 24 Jan 1920.        You need to see this original document.

Check the Tas. BDM website for yourself, but I am seeing that anyone can access a birth record for a birth that occurred 100 years ago. For more recent births there are qualifiers for the applicant.

I think it would be best to wait six months, and apply for a copy of the original certificate.

It would be useful to see the place of birth, the date and place of registration, name of informant.

Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 17 June 19 09:13 BST (UK)
From the admission register of the Launceston General Hospital (TAHO AB596)

Nov 19 1920
Louisa Davis; Age 20; C of E; Discharged Dec 8, 20 days
Occupation: waitress
Address: Orient Hotel
Contact: Mr & Mrs Tom Yaxley Weldborough

Entries in the admission reg. for 'Yaxley' indicate that they are Thomas and Ruth

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Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: Dundee on Monday 17 June 19 16:35 BST (UK)
DAVIS - On the 5th March, 1930, at the Public Hospital, Launceston, Gertrude, the beloved youngest daughter of Mrs. R. Yaxley, of Weldborough, and the late James Davis, late of Burnie. Aged 26 years. Private interment, Carr Villa Cemetery.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/51647605

James DAVIS
Birthplace    Dunorlan, Tasmania
Age    40
Spouse's Name    Ruth ROWLANDS
Spouse's Birthplace    Stowport
Spouse's Age    21
Event Date    14 Mar 1900
Event Place    Devonport, Tasmania, Australia
Father's Name    James DAVIS
Mother's Name    Mary DAVIS
Spouse's Father's Name    John ROWLANDS
Spouse's Mother's Name    Ruth ROWLANDS
Marital Status for both - Single

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTZZ-WDG

Birth 1902
Ulverstone, Tasmania
Martha Louisa Anne DAVIS
Mother: Ruth
Father: James Thomas DAVIS

 ???
Death 1928
#11440
MELBOURNE EAST, Australia

FEBEY, Louisa Jane
Mother's name: Ruth RAWLINGS
Father's Name: James DAVIS
Aged 26

Ran in Front of a 'Bus
MELBOURNE, Sept. 26.
When Louisa Jane Febey, married, 26 years, of Punt Road, Windsor, was struck by a motor bus at the intersection of Bourke and Swanston Streets at 8 a.m. on September 20, she sustained injuries, from which she died at the Melbourne Hospital two hours later.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/232420465

FEBEY - On the 20th September (result of accident), Louisa, the dearly beloved wife of Leslie Febey of 30 Punt Road, Windsor, and loving mother of Ellis, aged 26 years.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204125565

Leslie was born in Tasmania in 1901.

Debra  :)



Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: matthewj64 on Tuesday 18 June 19 01:11 BST (UK)
Birth of Ruth Rawlings, Jan 1 1882, Table Cape
Father John Rawlings, mother Ruth Rawlings, formerly Woodward
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-60p239j2k

3 March 1900
'Notice to ministers of religion
I forbid my daughter Ruth Rawlings, marrying anyone (she being under age) until she is twenty-one.
Mrs R Rawlings Stowport'
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article64499113
Title: Re: Tasmania Birth/Death Louisa Davis
Post by: matthewj64 on Tuesday 18 June 19 05:55 BST (UK)
Birth 1902
Ulverstone, Tasmania
Martha Louisa Anne DAVIS
Mother: Ruth
Father: James Thomas DAVIS

The Ulverstone baptism entry has her as Martha Louisa Ann Jane, born 1(?) Sept. 1902

From the Burnie and Ulverstone Anglican baptism registers, the other children of this couple were
Emma May born Dec. 1900
Ada Pretoria born Dec. 1903
Gertie Alma born Sep. 1905

an online tree has Emma May married to William Edward Febey

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