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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Fermanagh => Topic started by: jck1103 on Monday 13 May 19 19:05 BST (UK)
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Can anyone please help ? What details are on an Irish birth certificate? Can anyone do a look up ?
Bernard McDonagh born January 1922 father is Patrick McDonagh, thats all I have. Bernard is not on the 1939 register because it only covered England and Wales, he’s obviously not on a census, at the time of his marriage in 1945 in Wales he gave his home address as Strand Street Eniskillen. Am doing this for a friend and trying to keep within her budget, Bernard was her Grandfather. He died in Wales in 1985. :)
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I think this MIGHTbe the Marriage
Party 1 Name PATRICK MCDONAGH
Party 2 Name MARY SOMERS
Date of Event 21 April 1919
Group Registration ID 1834108
SR District/Reg Area Enniskillen
Yes it says Thomas but signature is Patrick!!
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Irvinestown/Back_Street__Irvinestown_Town_/521303/
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Irvinestown/Back_Street/1355258/
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https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0313 Irvinestown
If it is correct family then 1911 census should give years married, no. of children....
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23 yrs married
9 children
5 living
so you need to search https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp for records up to 1921
fill in as required
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If you find the ones on Census.....you can go back to 1864 when Civil Reg began, just amend search criteria
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Thank you for the information, the marriage looks interesting just need that link to Bernard. Have looked at the 1911 at Eniskillen Mcdonaghs Back street looks good it’s just trying to figure out which family Bernard descended from !
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the birth would be in Northern Ireland and I'm not over familiar with them but someone else will.
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You’ve been extremely helpful thank you, have just looked at the marriages will do some more research now, thank you once again Hallmark
Regards Jacky
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Can anyone please help ? What details are on an Irish birth certificate? Can anyone do a look up ?
Bernard McDonagh born January 1922 father is Patrick McDonagh, thats all I have. Bernard is not on the 1939 register because it only covered England and Wales, he's obviously not on a census, at the time of his marriage in 1945 in Wales he gave his home address as Strand Street Eniskillen. Am doing this for a friend and trying to keep within her budget, Bernard was her Grandfather. He died in Wales in 1985. :)
Births less than 100 years old are not online so you'll need to contact GRONI, Belfast to order a certificate- click on 'order a birth certificate'
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
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This might tie in with 1911 census link posted earlier-
Londonderry Sentinel, 22 Dec.1942: ALLEGATIONS … held at Castlederg Saturday, before Mr. J. S. Crockett, J.P., James McDonagh and his son, Thomas McDonagh, both of Bridge Street, Irvinestown, and Bernard Doherty, Back Street, Irvinestown, who was stated belong to Eire, were charged with the larceny ...
This one looks like the family in 1911 link-
Fermanagh Herald, 23 Oct.1909: SCENE AT IRVINESTOWN STATION. SON CUSTODY-MOTHER BRINGS HIM A ROME OF WHISKEY. SEQUEL AT PETTY SESSIONS. At the Irvinestown Petty Sessions on Friday, Mr. J. Gray, R.M., presiding, Cassie M`Donagh, lrvinestown, was summoned by the Great Northern Railway for using obscene language on their premises and also with _ the company 's officers …
Lots more along these same lines over a long period.
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You’ve been extremely helpful thank you, have just looked at the marriages will do some more research now, thank you once again Hallmark
Regards Jacky
with Births...... make sure Mother's maiden name on certs matches!
For example there could be 2 couples named PATRICK and MARY MCDONAGH in the same area having children, often people just see PATRICK and MARY and assume children are Siblings, many never even check what the mother's maiden name is on cert,
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Aghadowey thank you for the information, I’ve been told Bernard was a bit of a bad boy so the newspapers will be interesting !
Regards Jacky
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Are the newspapers online ? Have had no luck looking for them ???
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There are several pay sites that have local newspapers in their collections. Find My Past has lots of newspapers for that area.
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Thank you :)