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Title: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: wwinoz on Tuesday 14 May 19 05:45 BST (UK)
Trying to trace details of Mary Bridget Carter (Born O'Connor) who married Charles Henry Carter who started married life and had a child Micheal John Carter in Ennis, County Clare in 1933 and then moved to London (no dates known)
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 14 May 19 07:29 BST (UK)
C Reg Marriage results for Charles Carter http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nsg/

... not registered.

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C Reg  Marriage results for Carter of Ennis

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Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 14 May 19 07:33 BST (UK)
c reg  Marriage results for Charles Carter from 1900 to 1955

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Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: wwinoz on Tuesday 14 May 19 07:49 BST (UK)
Thanks for trying.
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 14 May 19 08:36 BST (UK)
Just because her son was born in Ennis doesn't mean Mary Bridget O'Connor was also born there (or even in County Clare).
To figure out Mary Bridget's age start with her death (if in England may even give date of birth depending on when she died).
Have you tried searching for the family in 1939 Register in England? If they are there it will give exact dates of birth for parents and possibly son (if his death has been matched with the record- only people born more than 100 years ago or matched as deceased will be available to view). We aren't allowed to ask for 1939 Register lookups but Ancestry and Find My past should both have it.
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: wwinoz on Tuesday 14 May 19 08:55 BST (UK)
I appreciate what you are saying and realise she may not have been born there. Sadly I cannot find her death in England and have tried the 1939 census with no results. The only document I have at this time is a passport in the name of her son, Micheal John Carter, born in Ennis.
I know the names of his parents and that they returned to the London area but have no knowledge of dates.
I  will continue to dig for family details. Thank you.
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: myluck! on Tuesday 14 May 19 09:20 BST (UK)
Are you sure Mary Bridget was O'Connor?

There is an 1933 marriage in Camberwell, London Q4 V1d P1563
It is between a Charles H CARTER and a Mary B O'CONNELL

It could be one to follow up on, if only to exclude
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: wwinoz on Tuesday 14 May 19 09:45 BST (UK)
You are a star. I could have been fed a red herring with O'Connor and will definitely follow up this lead. Thank you.
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 14 May 19 10:06 BST (UK)
There's a death for a Mary Bridget Carter in 1985 Waltham, England district which gives birthdate of 6 May 1911
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Possible match in Irish records-
Mary Bridget O'Connell born 6 May 1911 at 4 Rutland St., Limerick, parents John O'Connell (tailor) & Mary Josephine Sheehan-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01523/1618441.pdf

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Limerick_No__3_Urban/Rutland_Street/628877

Son Michael Edward born 1912-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01467/1598563.pdf

The 1933 marriage should list her father's name & occupation.
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 14 May 19 15:17 BST (UK)
Do you have an exact DOB for Michael John in 1933?

Might be easier to find him in 1939 or his death if they stayed in England.
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 14 May 19 16:18 BST (UK)
There is a Michael J Carter in 1933, doesn't give mother's maiden name
Name Michael J Carter
Event Type Birth
Event Date Oct - Dec 1933
Event Place Ennis, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1933
Registration District Ennis
Volume Number 4
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: wwinoz on Wednesday 15 May 19 02:15 BST (UK)
Thank you so much, everybody. This trail will keep me busy for a while!
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 15 May 19 02:39 BST (UK)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do

 
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 15 May 19 12:59 BST (UK)
Regarding the family aghadowey located in Limerick in 1911

John O'CONNELL m Bridget Josephine SHEEHAN in Ennis, Co. Clare on Jul 17 1910

Bridget Josephine was with her parents and family on the 1901 census LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Ennis_No__3/Post_Office_Lane/1069963/)
at house 8 in Post Office Lane (Ennis No. 3, Clare)

The family are at house 8 in Ahearn Terrace (Ennis No. 2 Urban, Clare) LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Clare/Ennis_No__2_Urban/Ahearn_Terrace/353187/) in 1911

Edward Sheehan died at 8 Ahern Terrace on Mar 29 1926 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1926/04993/4362164.pdf)
His daughter Josephine O'Connell was the informant

Bridget Sheehan also died at Ahern Terrace on Mar 17 1938 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1938/04768/4278581.pdf)

It may be that Michael Carter was born in his grandparents home if the addresses match when you get his birth certificate
GRO Civil Reference Ennis 1933 Q4 V4 P128
Title: Re: Ennis, County Clare 1933
Post by: wwinoz on Thursday 16 May 19 02:05 BST (UK)
Thank you.