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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: PaulStaffs on Tuesday 14 May 19 11:14 BST (UK)
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I've just obtained a birth certificate where the residence is given as 'Lane Upperthong'. Can anyone with local knowledge tell me what this means? On old maps I can see Upperthong Lane and plenty of other lanes including what looks like the name of a small settlement called Broad Lane (on Broad Lane (!) near Royd Top).
Many thanks,
Paul
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Without seeing the address as written on the certificate, without looking at a map, and without having any knowledge of the area, it seems logical that "Upperthong Lane" and "Lane Upperthong" are likely to be one and the same. :-\
Addresses are generally written Something Road, Something Street, or Something Lane rather than Road Something, Street Something, etc ...
Is the address quite clear on the certificate? Is it possible that the address is "Something Lane, Upperthong"?
Do any of the other births in the family occur at the same address?
Are the family at this address on any census?
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Is the address quite clear on the certificate? Is it possible that the address is "Something Lane, Upperthong"?
Yes quite clear and written (twice) on separate lines, thus:
Lane
Upperthong
Do any of the other births in the family occur at the same address?
Are the family at this address on any census?
Unfortunately no, it's a young woman with an illegitimate child.
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What year was it from?
If it was near a census year - or even if not - the woman and child could be at the same address.
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As Milliepede has said it would be useful to know what year you are talking about.
In the 1861 census there was a place called simply 'Lane' in Upperthong (starts RG 9 / 3249 / 20 / 34). it is also mentioned on the page describing the enumeration district.
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Here it is, centre of the map https://maps.nls.uk/view/100949153#zoom=4&lat=4689&lon=2255&layers=BT
Side by side map https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=53.5699&lon=-1.7917&layers=6&right=BingHyb
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Here it is, centre of the map https://maps.nls.uk/view/100949153#zoom=4&lat=4689&lon=2255&layers=BT
Side by side map https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=53.5699&lon=-1.7917&layers=6&right=BingHyb
That must be the place :D The year in question is 1857 btw.
Thanks all for the replies.
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Good find by JenB.
It often helps to see things in context. A while ago someone was querying an occupation with a number - looking at the original it was evident that the number was a reference number added later.
Have you found your mother and child in the 1861 census? Are they still in Lane?
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Have you found your mother and child in the 1861 census? Are they still in Lane?
Yes I can track them both through later years. The child was my gg grandmother; she married at 17, had four children and died aged 27. :(
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Hi
Lane was a area also in Holmfirth and their is Lane Chapel.
John
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Lane was a area also in Holmfirth
That will be the same place that I located in reply #5 In 1861 Upperthong Parish consisted of two sub-registration districts, Holmfirth and Newmill.
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Lane is also the name of the small hamlet just beyond Holme village in the diredtion of Holme Moss. A bit far from Upperthong, though.
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Though there are lots of lanes as pronounced "a Lane" -- in the singular place of Lane - locally its spoken or pronounced 'Lann' (Sound like ' LYNE ' )
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The thing which I always find fascinating is how in the Holme Valley ( and no doubt elsewhere) even the smallest area can have its own name.
I particularly like as an example the main road from Huddersfield up the valley all the way to Holme:
Chapel Hill, Folly Hall, Rashcliffe, Lockwood Bar, Lockwood Bridge, Salford, Viaduct, Berry Brow, Hangingstones, Alpine, Far Reins, Reins, Honley Newtown, Honley Bridge, Jacobs Well, Banks, Far Banks, Smithy Place, Hagg Wood, Thongsbridge,( name of the garage that used to be there, can't recall), Elmwood, Sands, Mills Bridge, Tech, Holmfirth, Upper Bridge, Prickleden?, Victoria, ....... need to just check. Will continue.
Any additions from anyone?
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So, just picking up again.
From Thongsbridge:
Thongsbridge, Fearnought, Elmwood, Sands, Mills Bridge, (tthe last 5 within a half mile stretch!) Tech, Holmfirth, Upper Bridge, Pricklden, Victoria, Bottoms, Burnlea, Flushouses, Hinchliffe Mill, Holmbridge.
Now this is the one I don't know - place names on the long uphill stretch from Holmbridge to Holme village.
Then Holme, Lane, Holme Moss.
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So, just picking up again.
From Thongsbridge:
Thongsbridge, Fearnought, Elmwood, Sands, Mills Bridge, (tthe last 5 within a half mile stretch!) Tech, Holmfirth, Upper Bridge, Pricklden, Victoria, Bottoms, Burnlea, Flushouses, Hinchliffe Mill, Holmbridge.
Now this is the one I don't know - place names on the long uphill stretch from Holmbridge to Holme village.
Then Holme, Lane, Holme Moss.
Holme Moss summit (at Ramsden Head) and there about 10 yards where rain water flows into Yorkshire from Derbyshire before the rain water flows South.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/100949156