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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: robnich27 on Wednesday 15 May 19 03:20 BST (UK)
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hi all
i am trying to track down any info on a distant relative of mine
i believe he is my great grand farthers uncle
only info i have is his name
William Nicholson
he lived in Mangonui from at least 1880s as my gt gd father used to call in and visit him on his sailing trip around the coast
he was from all accounts the local customs / excise man uup there
he built a house which is still standing, but now owned by the Wrathall family
any info ,,be much appreciated
rob
here is the current topic i have going
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=812724.0
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Papers past has various mentions of the name in association with Mangonui, but in particular Oliver Nicholson born in Mangonui in 1864.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19320418.2.111?query=William%20Nicholson.%20Mangonui%20&snippet=true
His birth is on the register
1864/7603 Nicholson Oliver Emma William
Other births with same parents names are
1858/4088 Nicholson Emma
1866/10648 Nicholson Alfred
1867/110 Nicholson Alfred
1871/14892 Nicholson Amelia
1873/21509 Nicholson Alice
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Sketch in Truth of Oliver
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZTR19240308.2.21.1.1?query=%20oliver%20nicholson&phrase=2&snippet=true
I do hope he is related to you, there are a lot of photographs including one with an HRH at the races.
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Reference to William Nicholson of Pitt Street, previously running a general store at Mangonui
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18781112.2.19?query=Nicholson%20mangonui%20&start_date=01-01-1839&end_date=31-12-1880&snippet=true
There are several marriages of the children of William Nicholson of Pitt Street, and those names do not exactly match the names I previously posted. There may be more than one William Nicholson.
The Pitt Street one died in 1882
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18820810.2.20?query=William%20Nicholson&phrase=2&start_date=01-01-1839&end_date=31-12-1900&snippet=true
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A Mr Nicholson at Mangonui in 1881
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18811123.2.23?query=Nicholson%20Deaths%20Mangonui%20&start_date=01-01-1839&end_date=31-12-1900&snippet=true
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thanks mate
i wouldnt think that there would be to many nicholsons up in Mangonui at tht time
i know that the house he built still stands,
but there was a building where he would have worked has been replaced by the one one standing as the old court house,,which is where the customs and bond store was
and according to my late father this nicholson was a cuctoms man, whom my gt gd father visited when sailing from alk to port waikato,,,oh,,he did lose a few ships too..
but the info gives some more to look at..more certs to order
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oh.. and the Oliver Nicholson...was a relative according to my late father
he was first mayor of Mt Eden
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oh.. and the Oliver Nicholson...was a relative according to my late father
he was first mayor of Mt Eden
If that’s the case, (and not just your father picking up on the surname). Then The Pitt Street William seems more likely to be your man.
Marriage of Oliver to Frances Tinning in 1888
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18890104.2.35?query=Tinning%20Nicholson%20&snippet=true
There is a tree on Ancestry with this family
Says William married to Emma Fish
William born 1817 Harrow on the Hill, Middlesex
A separate tree has parents of William as George Nicholson and Lucy Elmore
With son John who married Hannah Davis as in other thread. Interestingly that tree is unable to account for John’s son John
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harrow fits from what i can rember
maybe this william and oliver are brothers???
will have to buy some more certs.....ouch
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Added to post #7
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harrow fits from what i can rember
maybe this william and oliver are brothers???
will have to buy some more certs.....ouch
Again cheating by looking at tree, they do have a William Sheridan Nicholson as a son of William of Pitt Street, brother to Oliver.
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Confirmed here
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19191031.2.63?query=William%20Sheridan%20Nicholson%20&snippet=true
William Sheridan’s first marriage
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18890502.2.2.2?query=William%20Sheridan%20Nicholson%20&snippet=true
His will. Names wife and children. Mentions will of Father.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9Q-4BKM?i=117&cc=1865481
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Will of William Who died 1882.
Says he is of Mangonui
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9PZ-F1KX?i=114&cc=1865481
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Cemetery details for one William Nicholson [1882]........
Cemetery Records - Symonds Street and St Stephens
Abstract According to the late 1950's tombstone transcriptions William Nicholson died 9 August 1882 aged 64 years and Emma Nicholson died 8 August 1918 aged 89 years.
The N.Z. Society of Genealogists' T.J. McIvor Collection at the Family Research Centre Library, Panmure, has funeral records confirming Emma Nicholson died in 1918, aged 89 years, and was buried in Symonds Street Cemetery.
Subjects Nicholson, William, d.1882; Nicholson, Emma, d.1918
Symonds Street Cemetery
Notes: The (Variable Quality) Photographs at Auckland City Libraries of the TOMBSTONE in the Wesleyan section at G 33 of March 1995 (Auckland City Libraries Negative Nos 47024\F\17-21) have "Sacred to the memory of William Nicholson died August 9th 1882 aged 64 years ... the rest, also Emma Nicholson, wife of the above, died August 8th 1918 aged ... , ... day dawn ... shadows flee away".
Minniehaha.
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According to the obituary of Emma Nicholson [died 1918] late of Pitt Street, she and her husband William arrived in New Zealand from California.......
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19180809.2.85?query=emma%20nicholson&start_date=01-01-1918&end_date=31-12-1918&snippet=true&title=KWE,NZ,NZH,PWT,ROTWKG,TO,ACNZC,AKTIM,NZHAG,FRTIM,ALG,AS,DSC
Minniehaha.
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If this is the correct Nicholson family, here is the probated will of Oliver, son of Emma & William.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS87-2928-Q?i=450&wc=4B25-FRL%3A1045247701%2C1590062766&cc=1865481
Birth: [as previously provided]
1864/7603 Nicholson Oliver Emma William
Death:
1952/23314 Nicholson Oliver 87Y
It looks as if Oliver was a partner in a well known Auckland law firm.
Minniehaha.
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The marriage of Oliver Nicholson....
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18890105.2.2.1?query=frances%20tinning&start_date=01-01-1888&end_date=31-12-1889&snippet=true
Death:
1919/3373 Nicholson Annie Frances 53Y
Death notice:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19190514.2.2.3?query=frances%20nicholson%20oliver&start_date=01-01-1902&end_date=31-12-1950&snippet=true
Minniehaha.
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Photograph of the residence of Oliver Nicholson plus some additional information about the man......
https://digitalnz.org/records/30103542
https://57.myt.li/tours/1971487738/stops/1635242076/index.html
https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=RuMkAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA511&lpg=PA511&dq=oliver+nicholson%2B+mt.+eden+mayor&source=bl&ots=wvEKLUrOb4&sig=ACfU3U2_CaalV9slsD_Wmr2DZtaKtJDGDg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiAgY3V6aHiAhWp73MBHapuB6s4ChDoATAEegQICRAB#v=onepage&q=oliver%20nicholson%2B%20mt.%20eden%20mayor&f=false
Minniehaha.
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A few snippets about father & son who share the name of William Sheridan Nicholson:
1919/9226 Nicholson William Sheridan 67Y
2001/5019 Nicholson William Sheridan 14 March 1914
Headstone for William Sheridan Nicholson (senior) and his wife:
https://billiongraves.com/grave/William-Sheridan-Nicholson/18148028
Said to have been born in California:
https://www.myheritage.com/person-14002083.../william-sheridan-nicholson
Citation text: William Sheridan Nicholson Birth name: William Sheridan Nicholson Gender: Male Birth: Jan 21 1852 - San Francisco, San Francisco, California, ...
Cenotaph record for the later born William Sheridan Nicholson:
http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/143215
His birth:
1914/15211 Nicholson William Sheridan Edith Jane William Sheridan
Marriages:
1900/4268 Edith Jane Curtis William Sheridan Nicholson
[Her death:
1950/17440 Nicholson Edith Jane 79Y]
1889/1070 Kate Eliza Wills William Sheridan Nicholson
Death notice for Kate Eliza:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18900519.2.84.3?query=kate%20eliza%20&phrase=2&start_date=01-01-1889&end_date=31-12-1900&snippet=true
Death notice for wife of William Sheridan Nicholson (junior)
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/hawkesbaytoday-nz/obituary.aspx?n=daphne-june-nicholson-june&pid=192412954&fhid=12668
Cemetery details can be found here:
http://cemeterybase.hdc.govt.nz/Details.aspx?id=34519
Minniehaha.