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Title: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Wednesday 15 May 19 16:30 BST (UK)
Hi everyone.

I am currently tracing the Connor family in Northern Ireland.
William Connor 1831-1903 Ballinderry
Marriage 1848?
Ellen McCormick 1825-1903

Children Ballinderry

George 1850-1929
Henry 1863-1935
Margaret (Mary) 1864
Francis

Anyone with any information regarding the family or a forum would be a great help.

Look forward to your input.

Ray
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 15 May 19 19:01 BST (UK)
Which Ballinderry? There is one in Antrim and two in Londonderry/Derry.

Or do you mean the RC Parish of Ballinderry which straddles Derry and Tyrone?
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Wednesday 15 May 19 19:06 BST (UK)
• Ballinderry, Tullyballydonnell, Co Antrim, Northern Ireland
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 15 May 19 19:17 BST (UK)
The townland of Tullyballydonnell in the Civil Parish of Ballinderry
Reg district is Lurgan
RC Parish is Aghagallon https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0380

Margaret's birth cert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03609/2331582.pdf
mother appears to use the first name Lena
is this the correct Margaret?
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 15 May 19 19:58 BST (UK)
Is this your William Connor in Tullyballydonnell townland (Ballinderry D.E.D.)? if so, wife Dinah? (appears to be mixed marriage)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ballinderry/Tullyballydonnell/1002948

William Connor was a widower and daughter Maggie the informant-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05649/4590190.pdf

Lena Connor's death-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05674/4598528.pdf
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Wednesday 15 May 19 20:05 BST (UK)
Yes that's them. Brilliant researching.  :)
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 15 May 19 20:16 BST (UK)
There's a civil marriage 1848 Lurgan district for a William Connor to Helena ?  (possible match Helena McCormack). Being a mixed marriage a non-Catholic ceremony quite possible. GRONI gives date as 15 May 1848 Craigavon registration district.
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 15 May 19 21:27 BST (UK)
I'll take it that was the correct Margaret so
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 07:14 BST (UK)
Hi guys, sorry for the delay, I was called away from the computer and when I got back on it was very late.

The help is amazing and I truly appreciate it.

The marriage between Helena and William is the correct one. Looked on pay per view, the area is Tullyballydonnel.
Now what I am looking for, for these people are possible burial sites. Headstones etc. Any clues?
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 16 May 19 07:18 BST (UK)
Exactly where did the marriage take place?

Finding place of burial can sometimes be difficult , especially if there's no headstone. Usually only the Church of Ireland recorded burials.
Have you traced all the children and their descendants? sometimes families kept using the same plot and descendants will have details you don't yet know.

Now that we have the correct family we can start looking in various places for more details.
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 16 May 19 07:35 BST (UK)
Did William & Lena's son George marry Agnes Lewis?
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 08:16 BST (UK)
Yes. on 3 Jan 1877 The Register office Lurgan.

They also had 5 children.

George and Agnes Lewis are my Great Grandparents.
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 16 May 19 08:20 BST (UK)
In that case... "Francis Connor" was Frances.

Fanny Connor was a witness to marriage of George & Agnes (records for their children have confirmed grandmother as Lena Connor of Tullyballydonnell).

Frances Connor married (1881 Lurgan Registry Office) Thomas McDonnell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11008/8024932.pdf
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 08:37 BST (UK)
That's correct also. Now the other Francis I am looking for information on is. Francis Connor abt 1904
The parents are Henry Connor and Mary Carlisle. Henry is the brother of Francis
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 08:42 BST (UK)
I have a birth in Drumnadrough
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 16 May 19 10:29 BST (UK)
That's correct also. Now the other Francis I am looking for information on is. Francis Connor abt 1904
The parents are Henry Connor and Mary Carlisle. Henry is the brother of Francis

Francis Connor born Collinward not Drumnadrough- mother Carroll rather than Carlisle-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01842/1718907.pdf

Mary Alice's birth also gives maiden name as Carroll-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02010/1772443.pdf
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 12:10 BST (UK)
Now I'm really confused as on the Marriage for Henry and Mary Ann, it states Carlisle. Though what you're saying could explain it. I am now wondering if I have the right marriage. 
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 12:36 BST (UK)
After a further check, there is no other marriage, so that would suggest that Carlisle is a misprint of Carroll.
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 16 May 19 12:48 BST (UK)
Carroll isn't a misprint- both births clearly give Carroll as mother's maiden name (older children all with Carlisle born Tullyballydonnell & Drumnadrough but last 2 at Collinward). There are several possible explanations for using both Carlisle and Carroll but it certainly the right family.
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 14:54 BST (UK)
I see. Thanks so much for letting me know.

Anything else you can find would be most helpful.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 16:13 BST (UK)
The only other lady I can not find a marriage for is Margaret Connor. Sister of Henry Connor b 23 Aug 1864 Tullyballydonnell. Any ideas as to a marriage or even a death, would be most helpful.
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 16 May 19 16:21 BST (UK)

Is her birth registered?

Birth results for Margaret Connor from 1864 to 1864
If so which one of these?  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nt0/
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 16 May 19 16:34 BST (UK)
Have you tried https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

with a search like this and putting in whatever District it is..

Title: Re: Connor
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 16 May 19 17:00 BST (UK)
The only other lady I can not find a marriage for is Margaret Connor. Sister of Henry Connor b 23 Aug 1864 Tullyballydonnell. Any ideas as to a marriage or even a death, would be most helpful.

Margaret married late in life-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09709/5522312.pdf
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 16 May 19 17:01 BST (UK)

Is her birth registered?

Birth results for Margaret Connor from 1864 to 1864
If so which one of these?  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nt0/

Link to her birth was posted in reply #3
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 17:14 BST (UK)
23 Aug 1864 Tullyballydonnell, Lurgan.
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 17:17 BST (UK)
Blimey! Blimey That's her. I can not thank you enough.
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 16 May 19 17:53 BST (UK)
I know it's her  ;D

Found lots more (some you may already have known from family stories but not actual records) but still typing it up and double-checking. Will be in touch later.
Title: Re: Connor
Post by: Raystephenson1965 on Thursday 16 May 19 18:50 BST (UK)
Thank you so much. I look forward to your updated information.