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Title: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: Jang on Sunday 19 May 19 04:33 BST (UK)
In 1910 James Carmody requested a search of the 1851 census for his parents, John and Kate Carmody in Gurrane Limerick which found a Catherine Carmody unmarried with son James aged 6 in the 1851 census. At the time of his request, James' address was Limerick 2/2

A Catherine Carmody was baptised 1809 in Fedamore Limerick - possibly his mother?

This Catherine Carmody also had another illegitimate child - Thomas Keating baptised 16 March 1830 Fedamore, father Edmund Keating, Gurrane.

I can't find James Carmody in the 1901 or 1911 censuses, or any other info about him. Can anyone help?
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: Jang on Sunday 19 May 19 06:13 BST (UK)
Edit - it was the 1841 census, not 1851 (my typo)
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 May 19 06:27 BST (UK)
It wouldn't surprise me if he made more than one application for Pension...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nth/

Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: Jang on Sunday 19 May 19 08:21 BST (UK)
Thanks hallmark, interesting results. Did people make these requests for pension purposes?
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 May 19 08:36 BST (UK)
Did you read the Home page before you searched?

Explains all!
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 May 19 08:37 BST (UK)
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/search/cs/home.jsp
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: Jang on Sunday 19 May 19 09:03 BST (UK)
Ah, thanks :-) My James Carmody in Limerick in 1910 would have been 70 so that fits. I think the one in Co Clare is a different James Carmody.

However I found a possible family in the 1901 census - the address seems to match:
Residents of a house 15.2 in Mary Street (Limerick Urban No. 2, Limerick)
Carmody James 68 Male Head of Family R C  carpenter born Co Clare
Carmody Mary 52 Female Wife R C housekeeper born Co Clare     
Carmody Sarah 22 Female Daughter R C  Dress ??? born Limerick     
Carmody Edward 20 Male Son R C carpenter born Limerick

but I can't find a marriage for James to Mary or the births of Sarah or Edward. :-(
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 May 19 09:13 BST (UK)
Have tried https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp  and doing a Search like this?

Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 May 19 09:19 BST (UK)
You can amend Search terms as needed..

e.g.
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 May 19 09:26 BST (UK)
Try this....only 2 results, click Image to get details! mother's maiden name on it!

A nice easy one where you can learn How to find records rather than me just posting a Cert and you never learn  ;D

as you see...very few details for search!
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: Jang on Sunday 19 May 19 09:32 BST (UK)
 :) Thanks, unfortunately only two results - neither have father James.

But I did find his son Edward's marriage:
10 Aug 1907 St Michael's Limerick City
Edward Carmody 28 bachelor carpenter residence 18 Mary St father James Carmody carpenter
Teresa Kelly full age spinster residence 28 William St father John Kelly (dec) gardener
Witnesses Ed Morrissy 35 Cecil St, Margaret Casey 28 William St
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 May 19 09:39 BST (UK)
 ;D   There's now stopping you now!! 

Searching is quite easy once one only puts in what they actually know!  If one doesn't know District then leave District blank etc

Have you tried Death of Parents etc  ?
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 May 19 09:45 BST (UK)
Based on what you now know, have you tried 1911 Census for any Carmody, Carpenters   ?
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 May 19 09:48 BST (UK)
Ah, thanks :-) My James Carmody in Limerick in 1910 would have been 70 so that fits. I think the one in Co Clare is a different James Carmody.

However I found a possible family in the 1901 census - the address seems to match:
Residents of a house 15.2 in Mary Street (Limerick Urban No. 2, Limerick)
Carmody James 68 Male Head of Family R C  carpenter born Co Clare
Carmody Mary 52 Female Wife R C housekeeper born Co Clare     
Carmody Sarah 22 Female Daughter R C  Dress ??? born Limerick     
Carmody Edward 20 Male Son R C carpenter born Limerick

but I can't find a marriage for James to Mary or the births of Sarah or Edward. :-(


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Limerick_Urban_No__2/Mary_Street/1498196/
Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 19 May 19 10:53 BST (UK)
There are also RC registers online...  https://registers.nli.ie but which Church and do they have years you need?

Just start typing the Church.. e.g. St. Munchin's   and the site will suggest them as you enter name!

Title: Re: Need help with James Carmody - Limerick
Post by: Jang on Monday 20 May 19 06:27 BST (UK)
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm working my way through them :)

Have you tried Death of Parents etc

I only know that James was the illegitimate son of Catherine Carmody. Nothing obvious - no death in Limerick under Carmody but she may have married. Or died - again nothing obvious.

Based on what you now know, have you tried 1911 Census for any Carmody, Carpenters   ?

Yes, no result but there was a James and Ellen Carmody in Gurrane in 1901 and 1911. He was born about 1857, son of Daniel and married in 1899 to Ellen Donohoe.

There are also RC registers online...  https://registers.nli.ie but which Church and do they have years you need?

Good question. I'll start with any Carmodys in Fedamore and see if I can connect them up.