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I am helping a friend with their family tree and am trying to find information on a marriage of Alexander Jamieson and Mary Spratt, both born in Ireland, they had a daughter Margaret born on 7th September 1903 and who died in Glasgow on 29th July 1987. Any help would be appreciated
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Welcome to rootschat.
Where was Margaret born?
Do you have them in 1911? If so how many years had they been married? Ages? Occupation?
Occupation of Alexander on Margaret’s birth cert?
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Marriage of Alexander Jameson and Mary Spratt (transcribed in the index as Sprott), Banbridge, Co. Down in 1892:-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10638/5876165.pdf
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Marriage of Alexander Jameson and Mary Spratt (transcribed in the index as Sprott), Banbridge, Co. Down in 1892:-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10638/5876165.pdf
The residences of the groom and bride: Ednego and Kilmacrew townlands.
Ednego is in Dromore civil parish.
Kilmacrew is in Magherally civil parish.
https://www.townlands.ie/down/dromore/ednego/
https://www.townlands.ie/down/magherally/kilmacrew/
The townlands are next to eachother.
KG
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The only other information I have is that Alexander Jameson's parents had a Horse Farm in Dromore called Jameson Gate or Gait.
I would like to thank all who have assisted with this query.
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This looks likely for mother in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Skeagh/Ednego/1207003/
Birth of Susan Jameson 1869 -parents George and Margaret
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03376/2237538.pdf
Death of George
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05807/4643708.pdf
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Marriage of Susan Dorothea Jamison in 1900.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10341/5764896.pdf
Birth of Martha Shelly McIlwrath - 25 February 1901
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01968/1758701.pdf
KG
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Parents of Eliza Jane Stronge (in 1901 Census) married in 1879.
Eliza A Jamison & Robert Strong.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1879/11064/8047819.pdf
KG
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Hi WMac55 your query was just on the marriage of Alexander Jamieson and Mary Spratt and their daughter Margaret. do you want further historical family history working backwards on either or both, for your friend. There is a lot of possible relevant information.
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Hi BallyaltikilliganG,
Thank you, any information would be very much appreciated. My friend has only bits and pieces of info and with the other replies to my original query I seem to have got lost in trying to get the people right.
If you don't mind I would be grateful for any other historical info you could provide.
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sorry for delaywith the help of your past contributors a tree has started, yet even that has to be checked. so starting on the jamieson connection only
Your Alexander’s father was named as George from the marriage details with a witness a Richard T Jamieson keep a open mind to spelling particularly Jamieson you can help us by giving any other memory. did either of of the townlands in
Dromore readers help, could anyone check this volume for tombstones for all spellings of Jamieson Co. Down Vol 19 Gravestone Inscriptions, Ballooly R.C., Donaghcloney Graveyard, Donaghcloney Pres. Dromara 1st Pres.,Dromara 2nd Pres., Dromara Reformed Pres., Dromore Cathedral, Dromore 1st Pres., Dromore 2nd Pres., Dromore Non-Subscribing Pres., Dromore R.C., Drumlough Pres., Finnis R.C., Garvaghy, Garvaghy Pres., Kilkinamurry Pres., Magheralin Old, Magheralin Church of Ireland, Waringstown Graveyard, Waringstown Pres. Edited by R.S.J. Clarke.pub by the Ulster Historical Foundation
Did your Alexander become a doctor and stay in Dromore area?
Regarding the horse farm, Dromore held an annual horse fair on the last Saturday in September from well before 1900. however the nearest I could find was 1984 a photo by Frenchman Glles Peress https://www.artic.edu/artworks/121486/horse-show-dromore-county-down.
Dromore and District Local Historical Group Journal has online 1-4 volumes 1991-4 eg http://lisburn.com/books/dromore-historical/Journal-1/journal-1-photos.html
Books
A ramble through Dromore : a lecture / by John F. Mulligan
A Short History of First Dromore Presbyterian Church by WD Patton 55 p 1982
Sunday School ” The dedication of the teachers was impressive, being wisely and warmly guided by the good hand and heart of Mr. Jamison. In 1884 Mr. Jamison wrote . . . `I am today 27 years Superintendent of the Sunday School. .....a possible relative
George Jamieson probate 8th November late of Ednego Co Down who died 2 Feb 1899 granted at Belfast to Jackson Jamison Farmer effects £5 see familysearch.org
was 68 in 1899so ~1831
from Ros Davies
{George JAMI(E)SON . Dromore son of Alexander Jamieson; married Margaret Hamilton 29 Aug 1856; father of Susanna Dorothea b. 4 Oct 1869 CR Rios Davies
Eliza Jane Jamison probate 30 November probate 8th November late of Ednego Co Down who died 14 JULY 1906 granted at Belfast to Jackson Smyth Jamison farmer and
Joseph Jamison teacher effects 679 15 shillings see familysearch.org
Alexander Jamison probate 5 March farmer died 7 Jan 1906 granted Belfast to William Jamison and Alexander Jamison doctors probate late of Drumaghadrone [Dromore] see familysearch.org
Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Search Valuation Revision Books online
Drumaghadone-Drumaghadone Dromore Down VAL/12/B/16/23A (1864 - 1875)
Drumaghadone-Drumaghadone Dromore Down VAL/12/B/16/23B (1876 - 1885)
Drumaghadone-Drumaghadone Dromore Down VAL/12/B/16/23C (1886 - 1897)
Drumaghadone-Drumaghadone Dromore Down VAL/12/B/16/23D (1898 - 1911)
Drumaghadone-Drumaghadone Dromore Down VAL/12/B/16/23E (1912 - 1929)
these books trace Alex Jamison as the continuing tenant farmer until 1906 when it changes to Margt Jameson who is crossed out in 1913 and replaced with Wm MCandless until 1929
the plot map ref was no 10;11 ho office and land £11.10 sh pa and house £3.10sh pa
this is displayed on a 1863 map note the will of this Margaret Jameson not found
end of part 1.
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part 2
tithes
Jamison, Alexr. Townland: Ednigo Year: 1834
Jamison, George Townland: Ednigo Year: 1834
Jamison, Henry Townland: Ednigo Year: 1834
Sprott, James Townland: Ednigo Year: 1834
Sprott, Mrs. Jane Townland: Ednigo Year: 1834
Strong, Samuel Townland: Ednigo Year: 1834
other areas in magherally
Jamieson, Alexr. Townland: Ballysallagh Year: 1834
Jamieson, Alexr. Townland: Skeagh Year: 1834
Jamison, Alexr. Townland: Drumaghadone Year: 1834
Jamison, Geo. Townland: Ballymagendless Year: 1834
Jamison, George Townland: Drumbroneth Year: 1834
Jamison, John Townland: Tullyglush Year: 1834
Jamison, Mrs. Martha Townland: Skeagh Year: 1834
Jamison, Robert Townland: Tullyglush Year: 1834
Jamison, Robt. Townland: Lisnaward Year: 1834
McIlrath, Jas. Townland: Balleny Year: 1834
McIlrath, Jno. Townland: Balleny Year: 1834
Spratt, Wm. Townland: Growell Year: 1834
Strong, Alexr. Townland: Drumlough Year: 1834
Strong, John Townland: Drumlough Year: 1834
Strong, Robert Townland: Tullyglush Year: 1834
Strong, Robt. Townland: Drumlough Year: 1834
Strong, Samuel Townland: Ednigo Year: 1834
Strong, Widow Mary Townland: Drumlough Year: 1834
Ednego
Gv
Jameson Alexander Down Dromore Gv1863 Ednego Map Ref 3
lloks like in 1899 taken over by George , then in 1890,1891 taken over by Jackson
then by Hugh Lilbarr
Jameson William H. Down Dromore Gv1863 Ednego Map Ref 4,5,6
1890,1891 taken over by Jackson Jameson same with sublet 4a taken over by Jackson Jameson who is still there in VAL/12/B/16/23E (1912 - 1929)
no Susan George remains but changes to
Strong Thomas Down Dromore Gv1863 Ednego Map Ref 8
Strong Hannah Down Dromore Gv1863 Ednego Map Ref 9
Ednego Map Ref 9
taken over by Jackson Jameson
Spratt David Down Dromore Gv1863 Ednego Map Ref 11-14
Spratt David Down Dromore Gv1863 Ednego Map Ref 11-14
Spratt David Down Dromore Gv1863 Ednego Map Ref 11-14
Magherally
Jameson, John Townland: Ballycross Year: 1833
Jameson, John Townland: Magherally Year: 1833
McIlrath, David Townland: Mullough-Farnahan Year: 1833
McIlrath, Thos. Townland: Mullough-Farnahan Year: 1833
Sproot, William Townland: Magherally Year: 1833
Sprott, Hans. Townland: Magherally Year: 1833
Sprott, John Townland: Tullyhenan Year: 1833
Sprott, Thomas Townland: Magherally Year: 1833
Sprott, Thomas Townland: Tullyhenan Year: 1833
Sprott, Thomas Townland: Tullyrain Year: 1833
over 30 Townland Kilmacrew entries but none of the sought names
Kilmacrew Down Iveagh, lower (lower half) Magherally Kilmacrew gv
Gv
Jameson Jamieson Jamison; none: Strong Stronge; none: Spratt Sprott; none,
Jameson Samuel Corbet Magherally Down
Jameson John Ballycross Magherally Down
Jameson George Magherally Magherally Down
Jameson Ellen Corbet Magherally Down
Jameson David Ballycross Magherally Down
Mc Illrath James Mullafernaghan Magherally Down
Mc Illrath John Mullafernaghan Magherally Down
Mc Illrath William Mullafernaghan Magherally Down
Spratt Andrew Magherally Magherally Down
Spratt Jane Magherally Magherally Down
Spratt Robert Corbet Magherally Down
Spratt Thomas Magherally Magherally Down
Sprott Robert Tullyrain Magherally Down
Sprott Thomas Tullyhinan Magherally Down
Strong James Drumneth Magherally Down
Strong Robert Magherally Magherally Down
Strong Robert Tullyrain Magherally Down
Strong Samuel Corbet Magherally Down
Strong Samuel Drumneth Magherally Down
Strong William Drumneth Magherally Down
more if you wish