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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: Yonks Ago on Saturday 01 June 19 12:05 BST (UK)
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Has anyone else not yet got ThruLines?? I emailed Ancestry and was told I need to add more to my tree [ which I did ] and have far more on my tree than my husbands tree and he has ThruLines up
Thanks Yonks
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I was having the same issue. The tree I had linked used the old gedcom way of privatizing someone by having myself and my parents be named 'Living'. Only when I changed this to our real names did ThruLines kick in the very next day. Apparently also using initials can cause this too, so I'd say check to see if your tree does either of these two things.
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If you spell names differently or add omit middle names or have different dates the thru lines wont match you to your known relatives .
This is a problem with my relatives who change names and ages while travelling and have anglisized and americanized versions of their names .
I think even the Mac and mc.s dont come up as matches unless you all tick the otherwise known as box
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Check that your tree is public. If it is private then it needs to be searchable. Then check that your DNA result is correctly connected to your own profile in the tree.If you have tried to hide the identities of you or your parents or grandparents then this can also create a problem with ThruLines.
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Thanks Craclyn, I have done what you have said..now wait 24 hours to see if its made any difference..
I can't see how spelling surnames different should make much of a difference as there are many spelling for quite a lot of surnames
Yonks
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I have found thrulines rubbish anyway. I have 'ancestors' on my thrulines from someone else's tree despite my tree and 3 other match's tree have the correct ancestors.
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Of course we mere mortals can cope with different spellings and know when Bill is also William
But computer generated brain will compute its not a match even if there is an accompanying photo
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Has anyone else not yet got ThruLines?? I emailed Ancestry and was told I need to add more to my tree [ which I did ] and have far more on my tree than my husbands tree and he has ThruLines up
Thanks Yonks
In case your latest test doesn't work, I had the same thing for a long time. They finally appeared after I unlinked myself from my parents in my tree, waited 10 min then relinked to my parents. Next day thrulines kidded in along with the other new features that hadn't been working :-)
Richard
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I’m afraid I can’t agree that Thrulines are “rubbish”. I have made contact with two distant cousins that I would never have found otherwise.
The difficulty is “GIGO”. If someone has inaccurate data in their tree GI, then you will receive GO!
“Garbage in, garbage out”
But then again, I like Ancestry hints even if I have 8,000+ still to process😳
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Yes I like ThruLines too. At least if you have a dna match you can see from whom it has arisen and check out their info and sometimes it does push you in a different direction than that in which you have previously been travelling.
If the other trees are rubbish you have lost nothing - just the same as hints on Ancestry trees - but if there is a dna connection then it offers a path to check out.
Pheno
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I had a good experiene of them today
Definitely increased march finds by putting one name in box and giving alternative and adding also known as in facts .
Ie instead of William Billy McB
Having william McB
Alternative (rather than preferred) Billy MacB
Also known as Bill Bloggs ...alias or adoptive name.
Im convinced there were more matches on my aunts dna linked tree because i asked if less were added when an account lapses.
Either way nice thru lines with pics ...some 3rd cousins have used my pics and are happy to use there which makes trees come alive.
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Hi,
I had an email from ancestry on Monday after I complained many times the email said that I didn’t have enough family info on my tree for thrulines which I knew was completely incorrect.
I changed my name & both my parents from initials to their full names & now I have thruLines that is fantastic as I can now get common ancestors, very please so big thanks. :)
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Hi,
I had an email from ancestry on Monday after I complained many times the email said that I didn’t have enough family info on my tree for thrulines which I knew was completely incorrect.
I changed my name & both my parents from initials to their full names & now I have thruLines that is fantastic as I can now get common ancestors, very please so big thanks. :)
I wonder if that is the problem with others who don't get Thrulines? I haven't got full first names, just initials, though I do have full surnames. Worth a try, everyone.
Regards Margaret
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I have never got Thrulines either, but then I too have intials, will try full names and see what happens. Have complained several times to Ancestry and they have been as much help as a chocolate teapot.
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You have a much better chance of success if you use names, dates and locations. There is no way that the system can conclude whether J Smith and John Smith are the same person.
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Yes I like ThruLines too. At least if you have a dna match you can see from whom it has arisen and check out their info and sometimes it does push you in a different direction than that in which you have previously been travelling.
It doesn't tell you from whom the DNA match has arisen. All Thrulines can work out is that you have a DNA match and appear to have a papertrail link to the same person or people, but it in no way proves this.
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Yes but surely with any dna connection you yourself have to verify a papertrail and with Thrulines it sets you off down a particular route - particularly helpful if names don't mean anything.
I just find it helpful anyway - it's their version of clustering.
Pheno
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The problem I'm seeing with Thrulines for one branch is that back in the 1970s a relative wrote a book about some of my forebears and somehow formed the conclusion my ancestor's father was called Henry and his mother was Margaret, who lived in Perthshire. This has been replicated in numerous public trees at Ancestry.
Recently another relative found a death notice in the 1840s back in Scotland for our relative (7 months after he died out here) which says his father was the late James from Abernethy in Perthshire. I believe I've found the baptism of our ancestor and several of his siblings - some in Abernethy and some in other parts of Perthshire but still nearby. Quite a few of us are DNA matches with descendants of these siblings - several have transferred to Gedmatch.
I've put James in the tree attached to the DNA but a cousin has attached his DNA to a tree that doesn't go back that far. So Thrulines has given him Henry and Margaret as his ancestors AND has linked another DNA match to them.
This obviously falls under your advice to check the papertrail.
In spite of our efforts and sharing our discoveries on a family FB group barely any of the public trees have replaced Henry and Mgt with James and Grizal. One tree has even added an image of the newspaper announcement but not updated the date of death and parents!
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Yes I am just working through a similar such scenario now.
There is definitely a dna match between this person and both myself and my daughter but because his tree is limited to just a couple of generations ThruLines has pinched other people from other family trees and finally a sibling of my 2nd great grandfather and said - here you are we have found the link!
Only they haven't cos although my 2xgrandfather did have such a sibling it is not the person they have identified as his 2xgrandfather, neither the dates nor the wives/children match.
However, Thrulines has given me enough info to work back on his family to see where the connection is - there obviously is one but the generations are either out or someone has got their ancestors wrong. Pretty sure it is not me but you never know so if I can't find the anomaly working his tree back then I will recheck mine.
All I was meaning is that if I had just come across this person as a match - and he has a name which doesn't appear anywhere in my tree - I wouldn't really have had much of a clue of the connection but with ThruLines it at least gives me a hint.
I just find it easier and quicker to work from the ThruLines than picking anybody at random from my list of shared matches from the list and seeing if I can deduce whom our shared ancestor is.
Yes it is frustrating at times however, although someone else's papertrail can lie its not often that the dna does.
Pheno
Updated : I have worked the connection back and the dna is correct - myself and the dna match are 4th cousins thus sharing 3xgreat grandparents however the way Thrulines has connected via 2 different trees is incorrect as one of the tree owners has an incorrect set of grandparents. It has allowed me however to follow the proposed line of descent and confirm the match.
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Thank you, I have finally got Thrulines, Rootschat is so much more helpful than the people at Ancestry!
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Also now have ThruLines. After being a chief whinger for so long about not getting them, I feel I now have to say they've finally arrived and, although only a handful of matches are showing with common ancestors, the suggested connections for most of them appear to be correct. Well I'm blowed. If only everyone had a (correct) tree, job would be done in no time (imho) ;)
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Hi,
I had an email from ancestry on Monday after I complained many times the email said that I didn’t have enough family info on my tree for thrulines which I knew was completely incorrect.
I changed my name & both my parents from initials to their full names & now I have thruLines that is fantastic as I can now get common ancestors, very please so big thanks. :)
I have had ThruLines right from the outset and really like the concept. However I have recently added my full blood sibling to my tree and attached her dna to herself in this tree but I cannot get any ThruLines for her - despite her having exactly the same ancestors as me.
I know that she should have the same ThruLines but wondered if it would suggest the same potential ancestors or different ones.
Has anybody else got both themselves and a sibling in the same dna tree with both having ThruLines?
I also have my daughter and husband in this tree with their dna attached and both have ThruLines.
Pheno
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Yes, I have my brother, my nephew and several cousins all connected in to my tree. I get ThruLines for all of them.
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Thanks Craclyn. Will wait for Ancestry response then.
Pheno