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Help, how do I find, how immigrants from County Fermanagh Ireland, got to Glasgow Scotland, to get on Ship, to Australia, in 1841?
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A steamboat to Greenock to take ship or picked up in Northern Ireland en-route.
Skoosh.
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Walked, or took Barge or Coach to Belfast, boat to Glasgow.
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Would there be any records that I could search to find out how and why Immigrants had to go to Glasgow for the Ship :)
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Emigrant ships generally sailed from the Tail o the Bank, so Greenock, Glasgow was 26 miles up-river. Whether the online archive of the Greenock Telegraph might help?
Skoosh.
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Irish Toolkit https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com
Heading Genealogy > Emigration. Includes Irish immigration to Britain and routes. 1st steam-packet between Belfast and Glasgow was 1818.
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Walked, or took Barge or Coach to Belfast, boat to Glasgow.
Or got a lift on a cart?
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The upper Clyde was very difficult for sea-going ships, hence the origin of Port Glasgow where Henry Bell had the Comet built in 1812 & started the worlds first steamer service. Glasgow had a regular steamer service to Greenock plus the railway which opened in 1841.
Skoosh.
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Individuals or small groups could be sponsored by people in Australia. Ships were chartered by an agent in U.K. People applied to an agent to fill up a ship.
("Assisted and Bounty Immigrants" by Jenny Joyce www.unlockthepast.com.au)
According to "Australia's Early Immigration Schemes - The Bounty Scheme" a fault of the scheme was that not many settlers could afford to pay agents in U.K. to act for them and the system soon fell into the hands of the ship owners or of speculators. www.angelfire.com/al/aslc/immigration.html
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Walked, or took Barge or Coach to Belfast, boat to Glasgow.
Or got a lift on a cart?
Another form of transport in 19th-century Ireland was provided by Charles Bianconi's cars (horse-drawn).
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Search for the following scholarly article, about 20 A4 pages ...
The Great Emigration of 1841: Recruitment for New South Wales in British Emigration Fields
John McDonald & Eric Richards
A summary:
In 1841 the colony of New South Wales offered an unprecedented number of heavily subsidised passages to British emigrants. It sought specific categories, particularly single young women, domestic servants, and agricultural labourers. The colony preferred English and Scottish rural immigrants. New South Wales attracted one fifth of all emigrants from the British Isles in 1841, but its selections were strongly biased towards southern Ireland. ......... The immigration of 1841 was a turning point for Australia: it was the largest recruitment before the gold rushes of the 1850s and already signalled some of the main characteristics of Australian immigration history.
JM
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Have you searched eppi ?
You get the likes of
http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/12245
Emigration: papers relative to emigration to the Australian colonies
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http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/12217
he House of Lords Select Committee was appointed to investigate whether the social condition of Ireland could be improved by the emigration of Irish people to British colonies like Australia, South Africa and North America. The report contains the minutes.......
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Source HC
Paper No 593
Title Actual
Colonization from Ireland: second report from the Select Committee of the House of Lords on Colonization from Ireland together with the further minutes of evidence
http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/12218
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Colonization from Ireland: first report from the Select Committee of the House of Lords on Colonization from Ireland together with the minutes of evidence
Tables: (i) return showing the general condition of South Australia in the years 1840 and 1845; (ii) emigration in 1847, from those ports of the United Kingdom at which government emigration officers are stationed; and (iii) memorandum of particulars....
http://www.dippam.ac.uk/eppi/documents/12217
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A brief historical background.
"Timelines of the Irish Famine - Ireland before the Famine"
1833 A Royal Commission appointed to enquire into conditions of the poorer classes. Undertook 3 year survey. Estimated over 2 million people were out of work and needing assistance for 30 weeks a year. Commission recommended encouragement of emigration and a scheme of economic development.
1838 Irish Poor Law Act, prompted by fears that unemployed Irish would flood Britain and increase poverty in that country. Irish Poor Law didn't provide outdoor relief or guarantee right to relief.
1840 Industry developing slowly in east of Ireland. Thomas Malthus, economist, commented that rural Ireland was overpopulated and that "a great part of the population should be swept from the soil".
1841 Ireland census:
Population 8 million, an increase of 50% since 1801, although only 5.5% since 1831.
Ireland in general was not industrialising; labour force in industry was 28% compared with 43% in 1821, while rural workforce increased by 50%.
www.irishhistorian.com/IrishFamineTimeline.html
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The richest empire the world had ever seen! a century or so later the empire was toast!
Skoosh.
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Excellent, thank you all very much, I have enough to keep me going for a bit. :)
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Someone on WikiTree has recently started a section for bounty and assisted immigrants to Australia.
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Good site, I have been trying to get into it. Thank you :)
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There may have been notices in Irish newspapers.