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Title: Parus burial record
Post by: Discoveringmypast on Sunday 09 June 19 13:50 BST (UK)
Hello

Can anyone decipher the handwriting on the attached burial record please?

I can read the person's name, abode, date and age but it's the notes added underneath I'm struggling with.  (I can make out 'She belonged to..' but not much else.)

Many thanks
Sue
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 09 June 19 14:00 BST (UK)
Probably not right and not sure it makes sense, but ...

NB. She belonged to ?* first class/closs formed in Avon St? chapel

 :-\

*  "the" might fit though I can't see it in that squiggle ...  :-\

Added: Never heard of Parus - where is it? Google isn't much help.

Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: JenB on Sunday 09 June 19 14:06 BST (UK)
Probably not right and not sure it makes sense, but ...

NB. She belonged to ?* first class/closs formed in Avon St? chapel

 :-\

*  "the" might fit though I can't see it in that squiggle ...  :-\

Added: Never heard of Parus - where is it? Google isn't much help.

It is ‘the’ but written ‘ye’. I think the other word is ‘class’
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 09 June 19 14:10 BST (UK)
"ye" did cross my mind, though I wasn't sure if that was still used in 1829 so dismissed the idea. It fits with the rest of the text though.  :)
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 09 June 19 14:24 BST (UK)
Not sure what "Parus" means but the burial was in Walcot, Bath.
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: Millmoor on Sunday 09 June 19 14:27 BST (UK)
Think the record is in English Non Conformist Burials - Hannah Bolwell Wesleyan Methodist - Bath Somerset. Given that Bath is on the River Avon, Avon St. makes sense.

Might it be v for very rather than ye?

William

(Parus - non spell checked parish?).
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 09 June 19 14:34 BST (UK)
Yes, parus probably = parish.  :)

Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: Discoveringmypast on Sunday 09 June 19 14:50 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone for getting back so quickly!

So it would seem she belonged / joined a a different church to the one she was baptised in.  I was curious so thank you very much!

Any idea what the V.N.6. pt 2d means under her surname?  Maybe 2d could mean '2 pennies'?

Many thanks again.
 :D
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: Discoveringmypast on Sunday 09 June 19 14:54 BST (UK)
P.S. Sorry about the Parish (Parus) typo!
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: Millmoor on Sunday 09 June 19 15:15 BST (UK)
Could it be an indication as to where she is buried in the burial ground?

If you go back to the beginning of the Walcot Chapel burial book, which starts in 1815, there are similiar codes with most burials - others have notes like "under communion table whole grave" , "vault under chapel whole grave" and "Grave above A. no 1".

Willaim
Title: Re: Paris burial record
Post by: Discoveringmypast on Sunday 09 June 19 15:24 BST (UK)
Ah yes, it could be the location of her grave in the burial ground.

Thank you again and to everyone for your help.
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 09 June 19 15:35 BST (UK)
The note on the burial record may well have been  because she was originally part of the first Weslyan congregation for Bath in Avon St. That then, as it grew, moved to Corn St. *
Congregation grew again, moved to New King St in 1779 and Walcot Chapel  was opened in May 1816. **
Such a long standing member may well have been very proud of being part of the congregation 'almost' from the start and the minister noted it when she died.


* https://www.british-genealogy.com/archive/index.php/t-55611.html (last entry on that page)
** http://www.methodistheritage.org.uk/nexus.htm

Boo
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: stanmapstone on Sunday 09 June 19 15:37 BST (UK)
Probably not right and not sure it makes sense, but ...

NB. She belonged to ?* first class/closs formed in Avon St? chapel


She belonged to v (very) first class formed in Avon St chapel

Stan
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: Discoveringmypast on Sunday 09 June 19 15:55 BST (UK)
Thank you Boo and Stan.

I am starting to research my ancestors in the wider Bolwell family during the 1700 and 1800s (great aunts and uncles) and it's very interesting to find this out.  It would make sense that, as a long standing member of the Wesleyan congregation, it would be recognised when she passed away and was buried.  (As yet, I haven't found any other members of her family linked to this church but I will keep looking!)

Thank you again for the research information!

Best wishes
Sue
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 09 June 19 16:52 BST (UK)
There seems to be quite a few mentions of the surname in old Bath newspapers.
Including this one  which is quite likely to be for your Hannah.

Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette
8th January 1829  page 3, col2

Died on the 1st inst. aged 84, Mrs H Bolwell, many years a respectable lodging-house keeper in Pulteney-street and Henrietta-street.

Boo
Title: Re: Parus burial record
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 10 June 19 00:15 BST (UK)
I took "first class" to mean the first Sunday School class at that chapel.
Title: Re: Paris burial record
Post by: Discoveringmypast on Monday 10 June 19 17:29 BST (UK)
Sorry I haven't been able to reply before.

Thank you ShaunJ for the info regarding the possible meaning of 'first class'.

Thanks also Boo for pointing me in the direction of the newspapers in Bath, a great find!

Best wishes
Sue