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Title: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: what0101 on Monday 10 June 19 00:50 BST (UK)
I can't make out what the note on the left-hand side says/means. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 10 June 19 00:58 BST (UK)
Looks like...

See also
No. 194
P(age) 513
Depositry (Depository)
Register
30/3/69

Annie
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 10 June 19 01:10 BST (UK)
Or perhaps ....

or ... P 573 or 613
Deputy Registrar

 :-\


Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 10 June 19 02:08 BST (UK)
Or perhaps ....

or ... P 573 or 613
Deputy Registrar

 :-\

Yep...Deputy Registrar now makes sense  ;D

Ruskie, I don't think it's a '6' as there's 2 '6's on the doc which look different to the figure on 'P'?

Annie

Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 10 June 19 02:23 BST (UK)
Good point Annie. I somehow missed that huge "6" to the right.  :)

I don't know much anything about Irish records, but is that like a Scottish RCE? Worth following up on?
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: wivenhoe on Monday 10 June 19 02:33 BST (UK)

Is this the civil registration of a catholic church marriage?

What happened on the 30th May 1869, six weeks after they married?

Is it P. O B.....but not place of birth because that information is not recorded on the marriage record.

Maybe church baptism record?

But if this is the civil registration of a church marriage, details about subsequent birth would be of no interest.
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Monday 10 June 19 08:25 BST (UK)
You could contact GRO Roscommon (where the records are kept) and send them a copy of this certificate. Ask them to look up entry number 194 in that register to see what the connection is.

It’s possible that the February 9th ceremony was flawed for some reason and the couple remarried or the ceremony was re-registered 6 weeks later.
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: hallmark on Monday 10 June 19 08:31 BST (UK)
If one actually looks one can see they are the initials of Patrick O'Brien!

Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: hallmark on Monday 10 June 19 08:35 BST (UK)
If a Link to the page had been posted then it would have made it clear what the initials are.....

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11416/8192998.pdf


Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 10 June 19 09:11 BST (UK)
If one actually looks one can see they are the initials of Patrick O'Brien!

Of course.  :)
 
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: what0101 on Monday 10 June 19 10:34 BST (UK)
Thank you for the suggestions, and apologies for not including the link in my original post. I'm trying to find number 194, but it appears that there were no marriages registered in Listowel between March 3 and April 5 of 1869 (Lent, I presume).

However, in clicking through to a few of them, it seems Patrick O'Brian of the Ballyduff registrar was very fond of these "see another record" notes, because I've already found several others that he's left.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11424/8196584.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11424/8196584.pdf
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: what0101 on Monday 10 June 19 10:38 BST (UK)
The plot thickens -- here is 194:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11416/8192995.pdf

I'm still not sure what this means, though.
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: hallmark on Monday 10 June 19 10:45 BST (UK)
Didn't fill in proper Form!  Hope they got their money back! ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: what0101 on Monday 10 June 19 10:55 BST (UK)
Because the other one was still in the book, I am guessing they were still legally married?
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: hallmark on Monday 10 June 19 11:04 BST (UK)
Because the other one was still in the book, I am guessing they were still legally married?


Yes of course.... it is just the Registration that has gone sideways!
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: what0101 on Monday 10 June 19 12:11 BST (UK)
Because the other one was still in the book, I am guessing they were still legally married?


Yes of course.... it is just the Registration that has gone sideways!

Phew!  ;D
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: hallmark on Monday 10 June 19 12:16 BST (UK)
Have you looked in Church Register?

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0651 Ballybunion
Title: Re: Can anyone help with this note on a marriage record?
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 10 June 19 21:32 BST (UK)
A bit of a tangent, but I was under the impression that the registrar had to attend in person and witness the signing of the registration form for Catholic marriages. Anyone know? If that is so, then seems strange that he would use the wrong form.