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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: Marmalady on Sunday 16 June 19 18:52 BST (UK)
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A previous thread (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728116.0) found that my Ethel Tee Helps travelled to Canada in 1915
She arrived in Quebec from Liverpool aboard the Metagama, intending to travel to Sackville New Brunswick to join her brother George Stanley Helps.
But what happened to her after that? Did she marry? return to England? or did she follow her brother to the USA when he moved to New Hampshire in the early 1920's?
Can anyone find any trace of her after 1915?
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Have you checked with the cemetery to see if Ethel is buried in the family plot ?
Did you locate any obituaries for Eva or George ? Or other family where Ethel may be mentioned ?
Eva M Helps - 15 May 1879 - 6 March 1956
Plaistow Town Cemetery Plaistow, Rockingham County, New Hampshire.
Plot Section 3
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93126442/eva-m-helps
Rev G Stanley helps
Plaistow Town Cemetery Plaistow, Rockingham County, New Hampshire.
Plot Section 3
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93126430/g_-stanley-helps
Sandra
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I haven't been able to find an obituary or grave photo for George & Eva. According to the Find-a-grave site, a King family are also mentioned on the gravestone, but I have no idea who they are. George & Eva did adopt a daughter Elizabeth, but I don't know what happened to her.
Ethel is not mentioned in the obituaries of either of her two brothers (John Sidney and William Ivor) who died in England. I haven't seen an obituary / grave for her sister Jessie Pontin.
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This is rather bizarre.... Findagrave has two entries for Eva and George.
Enlarged grave photo here: https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2017/325/185375226_12777026-1947-49a8-b746-8990f6058643.jpeg
Main page here, saying they are buried in a different state:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185375226/eva-m-helps
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Hi,
Ethel Helps, was she born in Wiltshire, in a place called Bradford in 1888 - 1891?
I have seen the ship record stating 1891 as her birth year.
Also seen other info with a birth year of 1888.
Maggsie
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I haven't been able to find an obituary or grave photo for George & Eva. According to the Find-a-grave site, a King family are also mentioned on the gravestone, but I have no idea who they are. George & Eva did adopt a daughter Elizabeth, but I don't know what happened to her.
We can see from find a grave that Joseph S King was born 15 December 1836 and died 15 December 1927 - Louisa his wife was born 21 November 1838 and died 3 April 1915.
Massachusetts aarriage record shows Joseph S Kindg married Louisa Whittiker (as spelt on transcription) 20 December 1859 -
This would appear to be Joseph S King and his wife Louisa - Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts in 1865
Joseph F King 27 born Canada.
Louisa King 26 born Massachusetts.
Mary L King 3 born Massachusetts.
David C Knowlton 32
Mary Knowlton 31
Julian Knowlton 2
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQHP-CGT
1880 census Auburn Street Extension Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts.
Joseph S. King 43 born Canada. Shoemaker.
Lousia King 42
Mary L. King 18
Ida B. King 12
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH68-DVH
1900 census Haverhill Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts.
Joseph S King 62 born Canada. Shoe Finisher.
Louisa King 61
Mary L King 38
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9RS-2S5
1910 Main Street Haverhill Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts.
Joseph S King 70
Louisa King 70
Mary L King 38
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2JW-DVX
1920 census Main Street Haverhill Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts.
Joseph S King 83 born Canada Widowed.
Alfred Reneau 56
Mary L Reneau 57
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXYZ-68H
Sandra
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Obituary of J S King - The Boston Globe Boston, Massachusetts 16 Dec 1927, Fri - Page 45
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/33223493/j_s_king/
Sandra
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This is Mary and her husband who appear with Joseph on the 1920 census.
Daughter Mary L King born 1862 Haverhill MA aged 50 years married Alfred Rainaud 3 September 1912 Haverhill MA
Father Joseph King - Mother Louise King.
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE - Mary King Rainaud is also buried at Maplewood Cemetery Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts - section 3 -
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/94260007
Alfred Rainaud - 1863 - 1936
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/94259970/alfred-rainaud
Sandra
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Elizabeth Helps born 1928 as per census -
City Directory - 1950/1952 - Falls River MA - Eliza Helps - student - r 81 Hood - same address as Rev G Stanley (pasture Park United Church) and Eva Helps -
Putnam, Connecticut, City Directory, 1947/51 - Eliz A Helps - student - r - Rev G Stanley Helps - Rev (Dorothea M) pastor Methodist Church - h Main
Sandra
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You may or may not have come across this article which mentions Rev J Sidney Helps
The Boston Globe Boston, Massachusetts 14 Feb 1927, Mon - Page 24
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/33223706/rev_j_sidney_helps/
Sandra
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This looks like Eva May Lindsay (with her family in 1881/ 1901 and 1911) - wife of Rev G Stanley Helps
1881 Gaspe Quebec
Robert Lindsay 33
Eliza Ann Lindsay 23
Eva May Lindsay 1
Jennie Stuart Lindsay 6 months.
1901 census Gaspe Village Quebec
Robert Lindsay 53
Eliza Annie Lindsay 43
Eva May Lindsay 21
Jennie S Lindsay 20
Ethel S Lindsay 19
William Lindsay 16
Ruby Lindsay 14
Elanor M Lindsay 12
Robert C Lindsay 10
Erskine J Lindsay 9
Jessie I Lindsay 6
Celia M Lindsay 3
Christes Mercier 18
Cardine Jocque 23
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/jpg/z000137925.jpg
1911 census Gaspé Village Quebec.
Eliza A Lindsay 52
Eva M Lindsay 32 born May 1879
Eleanor M Lindsay 23
Robert C Lindsay 21
Erskine J Lindsay 19
Jessie R Lindsay 16
Celia M Lindsay 13
Stella Mc Kee 17
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e002053867.jpg
Sandra
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marriage of George Stanley Helps and Eva May Lindsay - 1918 - Methodist Church Cap-aux-Os, Québec.
Sandra
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I have just got back from a few days away and found all this extra info -- thanks to Sandra for her work :)
I will review it all over the next few days and see how it all fits in to what I already know
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Hi,
Ethel Helps, was she born in Wiltshire, in a place called Bradford in 1888 - 1891?
I have seen the ship record stating 1891 as her birth year.
Also seen other info with a birth year of 1888.
Maggsie
No
My Ethel was born in Truro, Cornwall in 1879. Her parents were William James Helps & Sarah Elizabeth Cope
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I have just got back from a few days away and found all this extra info -- thanks to Sandra for her work :)
I will review it all over the next few days and see how it all fits in to what I already know
Your welcome, pleased to help. Hope you had a lovely break. ;)
Sandra
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This is rather bizarre.... Findagrave has two entries for Eva and George.
Enlarged grave photo here: https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2017/325/185375226_12777026-1947-49a8-b746-8990f6058643.jpeg
Main page here, saying they are buried in a different state:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185375226/eva-m-helps
Mystery solved -- the burial ground is actually in the two different states:
"The main entrance to the cemetery is in Haverhill, Massachusetts, however the majority of the cemetery is over the border in Plaistow, New Hampshire."
So, as the photo is on the Massachusets entry and not on the New Hampshire entry, and as other sources such as the birthplace of some of the King family is Massachusetts, I will presume that the Helps family were from the Massachusetts side of the border unless I find some proof otherwise