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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Mercia118 on Monday 17 June 19 14:27 BST (UK)
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Can anyone cast there eye over this and see what they make of it?
I think the surname is "Fuller" and the birthplace "Antigua", but I can't find a George or Patrick Fuller from Antigua anywhere but on this census so I'm guessing I must be reading the names wrong!
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FindMyPast isn't showing any Georg, born in Antigua?
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Can anyone cast there eye over this and see what they make of it?
I think the surname is "Fuller" and the birthplace "Antigua", but I can't find a George or Patrick Fuller from Antigua anywhere but on this census so I'm guessing I must be reading the names wrong!
Hi,
I would agree that the surname is Fuller. As for the place of birth - it looks like Anthena to me (not sure that exists !). Could it be somewhere in Ireland?
Looby :)
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Feillor? There is a dot above.
It would be helpful to see more of the page for comparison. Can you post a link or tell us where it was?
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HO107; Piece: 682; Book: 11; Civil Parish: St Pancras; Folio: 14; Page: 23; Line: 6;
The 2 Fullers living in a Smith household.
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Hi
There is an entry (no image) in Surrey Institutional Records
Reeds School Cobham, 1844
George Fuller
Both parents dead
2 Children entirely destitute
Fathers occupation Armourer
Town where family from Antigua
Can t find an entry for Patrick yet
Cathy
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Here's the full page, the boys are 6th and 7th down.
They're in the house of John Smith who, according to a family story, was "of Irish parentage", so I'm hoping they might be nephews so I can track his family down ::)
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Looking at the image, the mystery word looks very much like Antigua to me. There is definitely a descender from the 5th letter of the word, which unfortunately falls on the heavy vertical line on the form.
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Whoa good find Cath. Looking more possible to be Antigua; usually when NBIC that's all it says. Have looked on familysearch for Antigua births but nothing found.
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There is a printed image it won t let me copy but if you google Fuller armourer Antigua it will come up.
Some other fuller names but either wrong place or date.
Cathy
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Fantastic!
I wonder how on earth they ended up in our house ???
What is the image of? I've just googled and it came up with someones facebook profile picture ::)
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https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/91512/1818-1901-Reeds-School-E-G.pdf
top of page 45.
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I wonder if Patrick & George's father was in the army & stationed in Antigua when brothers were born? Will take a look at military births for the period.
ADDED: No suitable army births found.
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I wonder if Patrick & George's father was in the army & stationed in Antigua when brothers were born? Will take a look at military births for the period.
Or a sugar planter?
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I wonder if it is possible to find out which regiments were in Antigua in 1829 - 1836 - Patrick born ca 1840, George ca 1835? If army parents died abroad, would the army bring orphans home?
I have looked at army deaths for Fuller 1834 - 1841 with no success.
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I found 2 Fullers in the army in Antigua in 1841 census
Francis Fuller
Unit or regiment 59Th Foot
Year 1841
Country Antigua
The National Archive reference WO 12/6827
William Fuller
Captain
Unit or regiment 59Th Foot
Year 1841
Country Antigua
The National Archive reference WO 12/6827
Not saying they are related to the brothers but it shows it was the 59th that was in Antigua in 1841. Have not yet found which regiment was there before.
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I wonder how on earth they ended up in our house ???
So is your family the Smiths? Or are the brothers living in the house you now occupy?
I understand it was quite common for orphans to be taken in by families who received payment from the parish to care for them.
ADDED: Correction to reply#14 - Patrick born ca 1830.
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Thanks guys,this is all fantastic!
My family are the Smiths, who were quite well off and well ranked, so I can't imagine them taking random orphans. .
We know that John was "of Irish Parentage" and was "good friends with the Duke of Bedford", who put him in his estate office when someone else stuffed him up, but the surviving daughter who was questioned about him couldn't remember anything about his parents and vaguely remember something about young cousins being with them for a time..
I'm thinking the boys could be John's nephews, which could give me a lead back to his parents.
Someone get me a sherlock Holmes hat ;D
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If you think they may be nephews can you tell us John's sisters' names [if any] & his wife's maiden name & sisters?
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If you think they may be nephews can you tell us John's sisters' names [if any] & his wife's maiden name & sisters?
Sorry for the delay.
John, I know nothing other than he was "of Irish parentage" and that he died suddenly on 7 July 1846 aged 52.
His wife was Grace Torrance, whose sisters were:
Ann Torrance (b. 1792 Scotland, d. 1869 Scotland)
Mary Hamilton Torrance (b. 1796 Scotland, d.1882 London)
Janet Torrance (b.1803 Scotland, d. 1892 New Zealand)
Margaret Torrance (b.1805 Scotland, d.1842. Married William Fraser)
That information about his wife's family comes from their daughter, who didn't mention any other marriages apart from the the Fraser lad