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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: garngad on Thursday 20 June 19 18:53 BST (UK)
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Hi help needed to decipher the cause of death and other wordings a ancestor died at work only found the certificate after wild carding due to wrong name and it had this correction and cause i can read part of but not all.........????? (poss cramp) all over body ??...?? to be being let?? by ?? drinking to?
river water while suffering from excessive ????.....???? smelting furnace ?? of Blochairn ???? works.
then doctors name Garngad Rd attended ?? deceased after ?? ???? ?? _. All help greatly appreciated in advance thank you .
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Cramps all over body suspected to be brought on by drinking too much water while suffering from expressive[?] head from smelting furnace of Blockains Steel Works
Dr Sutherland Garringad Road attended the deceased after he took ill.
or 'oppressive' head?
Doesn't sound good anyway >:(
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...while suffering from oppressive heat, perhaps?
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...while suffering from oppressive heat, perhaps?
ah. much more likely.
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I think the split word at the end of line 1 is: sup posed
It's definitely excessive heat in my opinion.
ADDED:
...from a smelting...
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Many thanks Igor and Horselydown makes more sense than my working out is it usual one would die from cramp by drinking to much water in those circumstances...Mucho gracias as we say in Scotland.
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Hi,
There is a condition(hyponatremia) caused by drinking too much water, which dilutes the bodies sodium levels and can be fatal.Symptoms include nausea,confusion,vomiting, psychotic symptoms and eventually siezures, coma and death.
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many many thanks fiddlerslass for the symptoms i have a better understanding now and for all inputs and readings thanks once again..........and for the very quick replies.
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That will be why old ladies warned children who had been playing all day in the hot sunshine and were over heated not to drink too much cold water.
I am not sure that the heat of a hot sunny day could compare with a furnace in a smelting works.
Poor man , it sounds truly awful.
Clever de ciphering .
Viktoria.
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This is how some people have (more recently) died from taking ecstacy tablets - the advice used to be to drink gallons of water if you were on E's, and some people overdid this.
So yes, sadly it's perfectly possible to die of what is effectively a water overdose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication)
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Furnace workers got salt tablets when I was a furnaceman, maybe lack of salt was the cause of this. The only river at Blochairn was the Molendinar & nobody would have drunk that! ditto the canal! (was that used for cooling purposes?) ;D
That iron/steel work would need a good supply of water & Glasgow's excellent supply from Loch Katrine dates from the 1850's to 1880.
Skoosh.
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Actor Anthony Andrews nearly died of it
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/actor-tells-of-water-overdose-6352571.html
I used to do chemical analysis in a lab. and in summer the factory nurse came in with a small glucose/salt drink every afternoon, it was an awful taste but deemed a necessity
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Blochairn was principally an ironworks engaged in the manufacture of malleable-iron, I discovered that I had a rellie who was a "Puddler" in Blochairn who had come to Glasgow from Staffs for the money. That was the worst industrial job, a special breed of men, (apart from an actor! ;D) puddlers either died young or got out of it early. Standing at a puddling furnace with his young assistant for up to a 12 hour shift, manipulating a semi-molted bloom of pig iron with iron hooks, then when it was ready, transferring it to a steam-hammer by hand, puddling was highly skilled & considered highly paid, early blindness was also an occupational hazard.
Puddling furnaces were located in open sheds to disperse the heat which of course was much worse in summer, the guys drank copious amounts of water or beer & collapse & failure to complete a shift, resulting in loss of earnings, was common.
In the 1860's industrial journalist David Bremner wrote, "The work of the puddler is probably the severest kind of labour voluntarily undertaken by man!"
A puddler named Willox kept a diary in the summer of 1872 while working in ferocious heat at Parkhead Forge in Glasgow's east end. "Tuesday June 18th, this has been a terrible day with heat, nearly all the puddlers knocked off. Only five of us finished the shift, and little wonder!"
Skoosh.
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Occupational health - I found a number of male ancestors with causes of death related to heat exposure in the working environment - but these were gas works stokers or pottery kiln workers. Heat exposure seems to be responsible for strokes and early onset dementias.
David
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Thanks everyone esp Skoosh for that great insight my relation was a labourer so would have found it hard to just leave and of course health and safety then seemed non existant as i still live in the area now where once there was all that heavy engineering brickworks chemical and copper works plus the canal now nothing of that era has survived here just us lucky relations to remember what made this city the rich and diverse as it is the area is called the Garngad local slang has it as the good and bad a good reflection me thinks.
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Life was truly hard wasn’t it.
So many industrial and occupation related conditions and illnesses which were not considered ,just accepted.
The list will be long I think,from archers with over developed shoulders and back distortions,bissinosis-cotton industry ,silicosis -mining for coal, lead ore, etc.
The cancers from the spray of oil from textile machinery,tetanus in agricultural labourers,anthrax from tanneries,T.B in milkmaids from cows before TT testing.
Cholera in towns with no clean drinking water supplies.
Gosh it is a wonder anyone survived!
Viktoria.
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People still dying from too much fluid, today's news
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-48717338
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@ medpat, much of the litter nowadays is discarded water-bottles, my local park is wall to wall with expensively dressed runners carrying water-bottles as if they're in the Gobi Desert! ;D
@ Garngad, a wee map of Blochairn here, it switched to steel production after 1880, there was also an ironworks at St Rollox next to the Caley (St Rollox Railway Works) plus this chemical works. They must have used the canal for cooling purposes. I remember Wattery Wullie's pub on the canal bank, apparently he wattered his whisky, who knows? ;D
www.scottishshale.co.uk/GazWorks/BlochairnChemicalWorks.html
Skoosh.
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People have been advised for for a good while to drink plenty of water.
You see them carrying bottles,anywhere.
They attend weddings with a bottle in their hand, likewise Christenings and even at funerals.They do not hesitate to drink from them either.
It is ridiculous,we are not in a desert, it seems very disrespectful.
The number of bottles just chucked anywhere,parks ,pavements, cemeteries and church grounds after weddings and christenings is astonishing.
If only there was a deposit on them as there used to be on glass bottles , perhaps fewer would be so carelessly discarded ,however as very many are still more than half full when chucked ,perhaps not!
Viktoria.
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Thanks Skoosh as i said i still live in the area and i am familiar with the vast expanse of hard industry but you would be hard pushed to know any of this to walk through it today thanks to sites like this the memory of our hard working and suffering relations of the past still get acknowledged... the caley is the last ( still carries out railway engine repairs) but sadly what is left is earmarked for closure soon I am less than a mile from parkhead and what once was the great Forge ( major manufacture of shells etc in the great wars ) is now a shopping center progress is inevitable but boy it does seem soul less to my eyes once again many thanks for all replies and interest.