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Title: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: BRUCE123 on Monday 24 June 19 14:03 BST (UK)
Hi Can you help with this name. 1860 Scotland. thank you Bruce.
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: josey on Monday 24 June 19 14:30 BST (UK)
A non-serious suggestion - Ann Mactomato  ;D ;D.

Seriously Ann Macwinat with or without 's' at the end? Are there any other parts with a lower case 'w'?
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Monday 24 June 19 14:33 BST (UK)
MacDermot?
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: arthurk on Monday 24 June 19 14:39 BST (UK)
I wondered about MacRomald, though I could only find MacRonald at Scotland's People.
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: josey on Monday 24 June 19 14:51 BST (UK)
Am wondering if the beginning is "Ma" without the 'c' then the name, so the next letter may be a 'd' as in Mike's "dermot". I have seen in old newspapers names written as "M'xxx".

Are there any lower case 'd's elsewhere on the cert?
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: GR2 on Monday 24 June 19 18:16 BST (UK)
Probably supposed to be MacDonald.
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: Skoosh on Monday 24 June 19 19:53 BST (UK)
Macmurdo?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: bevj on Monday 24 June 19 20:22 BST (UK)
Where does the signature appear, please?  Is she a witness to something, a party to a marriage, or another document?
Bev
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: shanghaipanda on Tuesday 25 June 19 07:55 BST (UK)
I love the idea of Mactomato, but now think I see Macdonald.  The "l" at the end is followed by a curly "d".
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: josey on Tuesday 25 June 19 11:44 BST (UK)
Yes, am coming round to Macdonald now that 'l' & 'd' are pointed out, the first 'd' is also very curly.
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Tuesday 25 June 19 12:58 BST (UK)
Quote from: josey on Tuesday 25 June 19 11:44 BST (UK)
Yes, am coming round to Macdonald now that 'l' & 'd' are pointed out, the first 'd' is also very curly.

Me too.
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 25 June 19 13:03 BST (UK)
For me, the only thing that looks at all likely is Macdonald - badly written. It's a bit like my scrawl when I have to do a lot of sigantures  ;D
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: BRUCE123 on Tuesday 25 June 19 16:53 BST (UK)
Hi All Thank you all I love "Mactomato " Ann Mac? 45yrs  is down as wife to William Fraser, also 4 children on the 61 census Scotland.
I have found the birth of the children, Mother Ann Fraser nee Macdonald, (unable to find marriage so far.)  Is the wife Ann Mac? on the 61 census the mother of the children? if so why is she not Fraser as on the births of the children. I have tried to find the death of Ann Fraser nee Macdonald, no luck so far.
from a very distant cousin of the Mactomato family Thank you for your help Bruce.
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: josey on Tuesday 25 June 19 19:31 BST (UK)
It was, and still probably is, the case that married women in Scotland are known as Forename Husband's surname or maiden name eg Ann Fraser or Macdonald - ie not losing their maiden names, so the enumerator may have quite rightly written Ann Macdonald even if she & William were married. As I understand it the death will be indexed under both names.
Title: Re: Any assistance in deciphering
Post by: BRUCE123 on Thursday 27 June 19 12:30 BST (UK)
Hi Josey  Thank you!  great help. moving on. All the best Bruce.    Completed