RootsChat.Com

Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: CHERAN on Tuesday 25 June 19 23:01 BST (UK)

Title: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Tuesday 25 June 19 23:01 BST (UK)
Hitting a brick wall with

South Australia:
James Henry Bosanquet......  From his death certificate
78 years old died 10th March 1941.....115 Payneham Road St Peters
born in Cornwall and had been in the commonwealth for 62 years was a widower
one living son

I believe his burial = West Terrace cemetery as Henry Bosanquet...

I then have  a Frances James Bosanquet who on Trove records for his marriage ( have this date) "only son of late Mr & Mrs. J. H. Bosanquet Late of Melbourne" and his death was in 1989

I have seen a James Henry Bosanquet on 1891 census  and "seaman" Birth Date:   10 Feb 1868
Birth Place:   Gwennap, Cornwall
First Service Date:   15 Mar 1883
First Ship Served On:   Ganges
Last Service Date:   17 Mar 1900

 but this record doesn't seem to fit as  the death record would say he came to Aus if I do the   maths correctly  in 1879...

I can't locate a Marriage, or an electoral roll or a birth of  Son Frances James Bosanequet

I have looked at other "Roots" forums re the Bosanquet name but these don't seem to lead anywhere....

Any info would be much appreciated on both James Henry (alias Henry) and Francis James

Cheran ??? :)
 

Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 25 June 19 23:55 BST (UK)

 
I then have  a Frances James Bosanquet who on Trove records for his marriage ( have this date) "only son of late Mr & Mrs. J. H. Bosanquet Late of Melbourne" and his death was in 1989


I can't locate a Marriage, or an electoral roll or a birth of  Son Frances James Bosanequet

 
Cheran ??? :)

Can you clarify please, do you do you, or not have a marriage date for Frances James BOSANQUET?

Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 25 June 19 23:58 BST (UK)
So this is this the marriage notice? 1944

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/48779852

Sue
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Wednesday 26 June 19 00:07 BST (UK)
Thanks Sue for looking but I did have that so sorry for the confusion as it is the engagement notice that records the Late Bosanquets.   I appreciate that you took the time to have another look at the trove record..   

this the engagement record

The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1931 - 1954)  Thu 24 Dec 1942  Page 8  Family Notices

HOOKINGS—BOSANQUET.—The engagement is announced ot Laurel M, only daughter Mr. & Mrs. W J. Hookings. Barker rd., Prospect, to Francis J., only son of late Mr & Mrs. J. H. Bosanquet Late of Melbourne.


Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: pinefamily on Wednesday 26 June 19 00:32 BST (UK)
Not totally relevant, but there is a Bosanquet Avenue in Prospect.
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Wednesday 26 June 19 01:32 BST (UK)
I think in honour of Sth Aust 16th Governor

Sir Day Hort Bosanquet (1843-1923), admiral and governor

thanks anyway!
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: pinefamily on Wednesday 26 June 19 01:35 BST (UK)
I think in honour of Sth Aust 16th Governor

Sir Day Hort Bosanquet (1843-1923), admiral and governor

thanks anyway!
No connection? Bosanquet is not exactly a common name.
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 26 June 19 02:36 BST (UK)
Have you considered these in VIC:

7677/1899 BOSANKO Jas Hy to DUNSTAN, Mary Jane

Births:

24626/1900 BOSANKO Thos Hy Albt mother Mary DUNSTAN father Jas Hy BRSWK

24204/1902 BOSANKO Francis Jas mother Mary Jane DUNSTAN father Jas Hy BRSWK

Death:

768/1901 BOSANKO Thos Hy Albt Brswk, Australia mother Mary Jane DUNSTAN father Jas Hy


The 1902 birth fits with the cemetery date for Francis:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/153979764/francis_james-bosanquet

Added:

8748/1937 BOSANKO Mary Jane MELBOURNE, Australia mother Hannah SYMONS father James DUNSTAN


Jamjar



Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 26 June 19 03:00 BST (UK)
The Age 2nd Oct 1937 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/206722806
BOSANKO.— On- September 30, at Melbourne, Mary Jane, beloved wife of James Henry, of 27 Holloway-road, Brunswick, fond mother of Francis J., aged 70 years. Sweet rest.

Adding: BOSANKO, Mary Jane; Fawkner Memorial Park; Church Of England; FA-COE*E***264; Interment; date of service 02/10/1937
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Wednesday 26 June 19 04:17 BST (UK)
Not totally relevant, but there is a Bosanquet Avenue in Prospect.

sadly not
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Wednesday 26 June 19 04:20 BST (UK)
Many Many thanks...  I think these are most likely

I may have made Some progress  James Henry Bosanquet born 1866 mother's maiden name Payne  Redruth Cornwall 

next strep to try and find how they get into Australia!

Cheran
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Wednesday 26 June 19 05:17 BST (UK)
Many Many thanks...  I think these are most likely

I may have made Some progress  James Henry Bosanquet born 1866 mother's maiden name Payne  Redruth Cornwall 

next strep to try and find how they get into Australia!

Cheran



https://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wermore&id=I15866

another possibility now although the dates are slightly out....
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 26 June 19 05:21 BST (UK)
I had just found that family on the 1871 and 1881 UK censuses:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFVX-STQ

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-KDMG

You will find them as unassisted passengers on PROV:

21 494 MAR - 3 B ORMUZ 1888 BOSANKO, JAMES HY

Jamjar
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 26 June 19 05:26 BST (UK)
Is this your family?. The marriage certificate would be useful for your research.

VIC BDM   marriage
7677/1899 BOSANKO Jas Hy   marr. DUNSTAN, Mary Jane

VIC BDM   births
24626/1900 BOSANKO Thos Hy Albt
parents  Mary DUNSTAN /  Jas Hy      @ BRSWK

24204/1902 BOSANKO Francis Jas
parents  Mary Jane DUNSTAN /  Jas Hy   @ BRUNSWICK
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 26 June 19 05:29 BST (UK)
Wivenhoe, you’ll find that info in post #7.

Jamjar
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 26 June 19 05:38 BST (UK)
The marriage for the parents on the censuses, on page 365. Her maiden name was not PAYNE:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTT9-951?i=364&cc=1769414

Jamjar
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 26 June 19 05:47 BST (UK)
There is a daughter also:

BOSANQUET, CAROLINE mmn PAYNE 
GRO Reference: 1867  D Quarter in REDRUTH  Volume 05C  Page 239

On the 1871 census, with son as James H.:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFJD-35M

The 1881 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-VM91

Jamjar
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Wednesday 26 June 19 06:24 BST (UK)
Thanks Jamar
"
its  a big help...

The age on James Henry Bosanquet bornd redruth is a little closer but if he was still in England in 1881 that wouldn't match the "been in the commonwealth" 62 years on the death certificate I would be looking for his arrival to be about 1879

I think it will essential to get the marriage certificate but either way if its John as James father I am still not going to know which is the correct one.

Still can't find a record for a "Bosanquet"into Victoria though!


Cheran
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: seeking0 on Friday 05 July 19 11:05 BST (UK)
Laurel M Hookings did actually marry Francis James. They are buried together at Centennial Park Cemetery. Her ashes were interred on 27 Mar 2001.
https://www.centennialpark.org/memorial-search/laurel-mary-bosanquet-498748/

That's fairly recent so the cemetery might still have viable family contact details, if you contact the cemetery to find out.

Her death notice appeared in The Advertiser on 24 Oct 2000, according to the Savil Index (which lists when it occurred, not what it said)
http://www.slsa.ha.sa.gov.au/fh/savill/savill-B.html

Her full name was Laurel Mary Hookings born 1911 in Adelaide.
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: seeking0 on Friday 05 July 19 12:18 BST (UK)
Francis James Bosanko joined the Militia for a year! The exclamation point is because the service record provides good civilian info - you can download the service record from the NAA site. Search on  "Francis James Bosanko" on the home page, and then click "View digital copy" from the Item Details Page which the search takes you straight to.

http://www.naa.gov.au/

I'm not sure how much of a done deal the Bosako / Bosanquet thing is, but it looks like a serious possibility to me. The service record neither proves nor disproves it. It shows FJB still in Victoria in 1931-1932 and still single.
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: seeking0 on Friday 05 July 19 14:37 BST (UK)
Have you had a good look at Trove?

More Francis James in Trove

- 1940's   Marriage  at Baptist Church, Gumeracha  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article48779852
- 1940's   Birth of son  at "Northern Hospital" http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article93339468   
- 1940's   Secretary of the Northern Districts Tennis Association http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article128388323       


Potentially Game Over.
Title: Re: James Henry Bosanquet died 1941 Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Saturday 06 July 19 02:05 BST (UK)
thanks for all the help.... I had seen most of the articles in trove and am assuming this stage that the Besanko becomes Bosanquet


Cheran 8)