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In an Obituary of a John Joseph Audley aged 68 reported in the Kansas City Star published 9th February 1918 a reference is made to his sister Mrs Elizabeth Burke of 222 West Thirty-ninth Street.
I suspect the Mrs Elizabeth Burke, his sister, is the Elizabeth Audley, who married Edward B Burke in Buchan County, Mssouri on 5th September 1877. I have seen their surnames recorded as Audly and Burne in transcriptions of their marriage record.
I would appreciate help in trying to find Elizabeth Burke (formerly Audley) in the US Federal Censuses from 1880 to 1920.
I know a lot about the family of John Joseph Audley who is recorded in the obituary but know nothing about his sister Mrs Elizabeth Burke other than in 1918 was living at 222 West Thirty-ninth Street.
Many Thanks in anticipation of your help
Regards
The Wirral Way
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ancestry.com tied these all to an Elizabeth Audley, born Ireland c 1846, in Ward 14 NYC in 1870, a seamstress. I don't know why. maybe someone's tree.
here are the free links.
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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/174707599
1880?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6XZ-3R6
1900?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M3ZQ-HC1
Edward died 1905 according to findagrave
1910?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLMX-765
Elizabeth died 1919 according to findagrave
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an ancestry tree here with all the same info I posted says Eliz father was John, and that her brother john married Mary Connaughton. Right person?
in case you have ancestry.com
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/2666033/person/-1826407082/facts
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that is Elizabeth, at least in 1910 with son in law William Boyle. In 1920 the Boyles were at the address given in John's obituary.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8HD-G93
you should be able to work Katherine's information backward to prove the other years are correct.
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I have seen their surnames recorded as Audly and Burne in transcriptions of their marriage record.
Probably transcribed as Burne because the top of the "k" is overwritten by a letter from the line above.
Attached I hope
no other information other than married by J J Gabbin? Isabbin? ; Michael Crawford, recorder.
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In an Obituary of a John Joseph Audley aged 68 reported in the Kansas City Star published 9th February 1918 a reference is made to his sister Mrs Elizabeth Burke of 222 West Thirty-ninth Street.
I suspect the Mrs Elizabeth Burke, his sister, is the Elizabeth Audley, who married Edward B Burke in Buchan County, Mssouri on 5th September 1877. I have seen their surnames recorded as Audly and Burne in transcriptions of their marriage record.
Here is the original marriage record.
2nd from the bottom, left side, image 104.
Marriage: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nz4/
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Their daughter Katherine died in 1925. She is listed as living at 222 West Thirty-ninth Street., same address the obit for John gave for his sister Elizabeth in 1918.
DC: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nz5/
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Many Thanks to RJ137 and Oldohiohome for your replies.
I am looking after my 11 month old Grandson, today; so it will not be until this evening that I manage to follow up the links you have given me.
I will reply later
Many Thanks
Regards
Brian (The Wirral Way)
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Kansas City Star
October 18, 1905
DIED
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Burke - Edward R., died October 16, aged 54
years.
Funeral from residence of daughter, Mrs.
William D Boyle, 1109 Pearl, Thursday morning
at 8:30 to Our Lady Council Church
Thirty-ninth and Washington, at 9 o'clock.
Interment in Mount St. Mary's cemetery.
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Kansas City Star
January 27, 1919
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Thanks to RJ 137 for the two obits from the Kansas City Star.
Could I ask RJ 137 to confirm the ages if Edward R Burke and Elizabeth Burke in the two obits. I have taken their ages as 54 and 83 respectively. If this is correct then Elizabeth would have been 15 years older than Edward R. This conflicts with their ages in the 1900 census, (as per link supplied by oldohiohome)
Edward R is aged 48 in 1900 census; This fits in with his age in the obit (aged 54 in 1905)
Elizabeth is aged 50 in 1900 census; which would suggest she was 69 in 1919; which is very different from the 83 in my interpretation of the obit. Am I reading the obit correctly?
The other confusion I see is that Edward's initial of his second forename is R according to both his obit as 1900 census and yet in the image of his name in the marriage record, as provided by oldohiohome gives his name as Edward B Burke and not Edward R Burke. Any comments?
I will be looking at the census records you have provided links to tomorrow evening.
Regards
The Wirral Way
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Kansas City Star
October 18, 1905
DIED
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Burke - Edward R., died October 16, aged 54
years.
Funeral from residence of daughter, Mrs.
William D Boyle, 1109 Pearl, Thursday morning
at 8:30 to Our Lady Council Church
Thirty-ninth and Washington, at 9 o'clock.
Interment in Mount St. Mary's cemetery.
Here's the obit. The print isn't real clear for age.
What do your eyes see?
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Edward's age in the obit looks like 54 to me
Elizabeth's age in her obit looks like 63, not 83. That may be where the confusion is.
Her ages by census and death:
Elizabeth
1870: age 24
1880: age 30
1900: age 50, born March 1850
1910: age 53
1919: age 63
Note, in 1870 she wasn't married yet to a slightly younger man, and did not have that reason to underestimate her age.
by the way, since this looks now like the right person:
1870 Census
Ward 14 New York City
household:
Peter Keever 30, a proofreader
Jane Keever, 30, keeps house
Elizabeth Audley, 24, seamstress
all born in Ireland, Peter was a citizen
edited to add:
here is the link to 1870 on familysearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8F7-J4W
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Just noticed, both buried Catholic. Might help if you are looking for Elizabeth and John in Ireland.
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Thanks to RJ137 and Oldohiohome for your recent meassages.
I would agree that Edward R was 54 years old when he died and that Elizabeth was 63 when she died and not 83 as I first read it!!
In time I will go back to look at Ireland, the obit for John Joseph Audley suggests that he was born in Belfast Ireland; but before I look at Ireland I need to write up all the information you have given me from the various census records.
Regards
The Wirral Way
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a few more records to keep you busy.
Elizabeth Audley was living with Peter and Jane Keever in 1870 in New York City. Jane's maiden name was Audley. I couldn't tell if she was Elizabeth's sister, cousin, or whatever. Maybe her full death record will list her parents' names. But not a real good chance in that time frame.
Jane died 5 July 1875, Manhattan, age 32, marital status unknown [according to the transcript]
"New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949,"
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WYY-TDN
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Jane's headstone reads:
Erected by Mary Keever in memory of her beloved parents
Peter Keever died April 8? 1884
Jane Keever died July ?, 1875
her infant brother E J Keever
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/196491737/jane-keever
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Here is the transcript of the death record of Peter and Jane (Audley) Keever's child, Mary, which gives Jane's maiden name:
New York, New York City Municipal Deaths
Name:, Mary Keever
Event Type:, Death
Event Date:, 09 Aug 1930
Event Place:, Bronx, New York, New York, United States
Gender:, Female
Age:, 59
Marital Status:, Single
Race:, White
Occupation:, Laundress
Birthplace:, New York
Burial Date:, 11 Aug 1930
Cemetery:, Calvary
Father's Name:, Peter Keever
Father's Birthplace:, Ireland
Mother's Name:, Jame Audley
Mother's Birthplace:, Ireland
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WG8-YNB
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If your John Joseph Audley is the John Audley who was naturalized 3 November 1888, Circuit Court, Buchanan County, Missouri
Volume A, page 438
country of birth or allegiance: England
then chasing down his petition for naturalization might tell you his county of birth, there's about a 50-50 chance.
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You said that John Joseph Audley may have been born in Belfast. For what it's worth, I found this for an Elizabeth Audley, but with a father named Pat:
baptized 21 September 1848
St Patrick's, Belfast
Elizabeth Audly, daughter of Pat Audly and Elizabeth Gorton. sponsor: Catherine O'Donnell
I wouldn't put a lot of stock in it, for being the right Elizabeth. Also I found no Jane or John in the baptisms in Belfast, according to ancestry.com's reading and indexing of the names.
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If you can tie your Audley family to this one, also in Kansas City, Missouri, then you will know where yours came from.
I found this first:
1910 Census Ward 5, Kansas City, Missouri
at 4013 Belleview Avenue
Thomas Burke, 43, head, born in Ireland, arrived 1888, naturalized
Maria Burke, 37, Ireland, married 1x, for 13 years, 6 children, 6 alive, arrived 1890
Ellen, 12, Missouri
Mary, 9, Catherine 7, John W 5, Thomas M 3, Joseph P 1, all born in Missouri
John Audley, 27, brother in law, born in Ireland
Margaret Audley, 25, sister in law, born in Ireland
Richard Halloran, 22, Ireland, boarder
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2Y8-F1S
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When John and Margaret, brother and sister, arrived, they were headed to their sister Bridget's:
Arriving New York, 1 May 1902, from Queenstown, on the Lucania
John Audley, 19, single, laborer,
Maggie Audley, 17, single, servant
both: last residence: Headford, destination: sister Bridget Audley, 1016 Centre St, Kansas City, Missouri
Headford is in Galway
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Bridget, John, and Maggie are all at home in Galway in 1901:
1901 Census of Ireland
house 3 in Pollacullaire (Headford, Galway)
Audley, Thomas, 55, Male, Head of Family, General Labourer, Cannot read or write, speaks Irish and English, Married, -
Audley, Katie, 50, Female, Wife, House Keeper, Cannot read or write, speaks Irish and English, Married, -
Audley, Bridget, 24, Female, Daughter, Read and write, speaks Irish and English, Not Married, -
Audley, John, 19, Male, Son, General Labourer, Read and write, speaks Irish and English, Not Married, -
Audley, Maggie, 17, Female, Daughter, Read and write, speaks Irish and English, Not Married, -
Audley, Katie, 14, Female, Daughter, Scholar, Read and write, Not Married, -
Audley, Nora, 7, Female, Daughter, Scholar, Read and write, Not Married
all Roman Catholic, all born in Galway
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Headford/Pollacullaire/1399892/
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I'm pretty sure I found Bridget arriving twice, the second time with a Mary Duddy. both had been in the US and lived in Kansas City previously. This is probably Bridget's first arrival. Not very helpful to your search overall, but here it is anyway:
Arriving 10 October 1894, from Liverpool and Queenstown, aboard the Teutonic
Bridget Audley, 19, servant, last residence: Headford, destination: Kansas
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/engine/gold.html?username=010010013018025012028027001011074052002029014007009093023010029&password=093094080070017009028006029&pid=105193020135&type=manifest
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Maria (Audley) Burke's death certificate, tying her to the same family: died 2 November 1926, K C Missouri
at 4013 Belleview
born May 10, 1874, Ireland
parents: Thomas Audley and Catherine Leonard
informant: Thomas Burke
https://s1.sos.mo.gov/Records/Archives/ArchivesMvc/DeathCertificates/SearchResults
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sister Katherine, also in Galway in 1901, also died in Kansas City:
Catherine M Audley, of 4155 Holly, d February 25, 1925
single, age 34y 1m 19d, b January 6, 1891, in Ireland
father Thomas Audley
mother: Catherine Leonard
informant: Mrs Jerry Clifford, same address
https://s1.sos.mo.gov/Records/Archives/ArchivesMvc/DeathCertificates/SearchResults
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Unfortunately, after all that, I couldn't tie the second family to yours, except that they were both in Kansas City, Missouri. Maybe they shared a common address in the city directories, or an obituary will name one or the other.
Also unfortunately, there are no baptism records before 1880 microfilmed for Headford Parish, aka Killursa and Killower, which you would need if your Audley family is from the same place as the children of Thomas and Katherine (Leonard) Audley.
Also unfortunately, Elizabeth Audley Burke died at a hospital in Kansas City, Kansas, and Kansas is a lot harder to get certificates from than Missouri. see:
http://www.kdheks.gov/vital/genealogy.html
You need to be at least a cousin to get the record.
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sister Katherine, also in Galway in 1901, also died in Kansas City:
Catherine M Audley, of 4155 Holly, d February 25, 1925
single, age 34y 1m 19d, b January 6, 1891, in Ireland
father Thomas Audley
mother: Catherine Leonard
informant: Mrs Jerry Clifford, same address
https://s1.sos.mo.gov/Records/Archives/ArchivesMvc/DeathCertificates/SearchResults
Kansas City Star
February 26, 1925
DEATH NOTICES
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AUDLEY-- Catherine M., age 34 years, a
graduate nurse of St. Mary's hospital.
Died at St. Mary's hospital Wednesday morning.
She is survived by 3 brothers and 3
sisters. Michael Audley, 3004 Belleview; John
Audley 2121 North 33rd st., Kansas City, Kansas;
Thomas Audley, County Galway, Ireland; Mrs.
Thomas Burke, 4013 Belleview; Mrs. Jerry
Clifford and Miss Nora Audley, 4155 Holly.
Funeral from home of Mrs. Jerry Clifford
4155 Holly, Friday morning at 8:30. Services at
Our Lady of Good Counsel church, Washington and
Schaefer ave at 9 o'clock Interment family lot.
Mt. St. Mary's cemetery. Her remains have been
entrusted to the care of Quirk & Tobin.
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Hi RJ137 & olsohiohome.
Many thanks for your last messages.
As far as I am aware there were two, apparently separate, Audley Families that appear to have lived in Kansas City at around the same time. Families stories are that each of the Audley Families knew of each other, through work, although were not related. I have a lot of information about the Audley Family that descends from Thomas Audley & Catherine Leonard from Galway in Ireland. I am now trying to work up the information about the other Audley Family that were the subject of my original message.
The thing that stands out to me is that in the 1910 census of 4013 Bellview the head of the family is a Thomas Burke it would be interesting if that Thomas Burke was in some way related to the Edward Burke who married Elizabeth Audley in 1877 then we may have a link.
I have been at a Family Birthday this evening so have not been able to look at all your information in detail.
Regards
The Wirral Way
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Unfortunately, after all that, I couldn't tie the second family to yours, except that they were both in Kansas City, Missouri. Maybe they shared a common address in the city directories, or an obituary will name one or the other.
When I suggested this, I didn't realize that your John Audley was still in St Joseph, Missouri, in 1910. Thomas Burke arrived in 1888 and was boarding in Kansas City, MO, in 1891. When the younger John and Maggie Audley arrived, they went to Thomas Burke's in Kansas City, not to the older John Audley in St Joseph.
So it's a dead end there.
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Oldohiohome,
Many thanks for your last message I am now slowly plodding through all the information both you and others have given me on the Audley Family of Missouri and it will take me a while to assimilate all the data into my master file.
Regards
Brian Audley