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Im going more the Wilson side Frank wilson born 29 may 1911 had two other brothers john and ben and a sister unknown who had a son called malcom. parents are Thomas and Eliza Wilson married in Australia think but there parents born in England, Yorkshire area, if anyone has any details leading to sons,daughter,parents add on
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All I know is me which is F G wilson 1950's born daughter off to his father frank senior wilson
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Where should we be looking? England or Australia?
What is your best guess for the date and location of marriage of Thomas and Eliza? Any hint or suspicion will make it easier for us to help you.
As you could be looking for people still alive, what about putting an appeal for information in the local press in the last known location?
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The Australian side:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814895.0
Jamjar
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Where have you got this date from, Frank wilson born 29 may 1911?
What was Eliza’s maiden name?
Jamjar
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This doesn’t make sense: ‘parents are Thomas and Eliza Wilson married in Australia think but there parents born in England, Yorkshire area,’
Is it meant to say that you think the brothers married in Australia, but that Thomas and Eliza married in England?
In you other thread I think you said that you believed that the boys were born in the UK, yes?
Jamjar
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sons of Thomas and Eliza born australia, date of birth for thomas and john are in cemetery when died and for in the army so date 1911 is correct. but births would of been over in england before they moved over here, as first son was 5 when moved to australia from birth certificate and dont have much on Eliza only on cemtery record saying that. Maybe not married in australia prob in england yorkshire bengley. Family is from England from gran dad birth certificate so my best bet is there till they got here cant find anything
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I think it could the Sanctuary Mother. (See other thread)
WILSON, BEN MOULDING SANCTUARY
GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 174
WILSON, SARAH SANCTUARY
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 174
WILSON, JOHN SANCTUARY
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 168
WILSON, HARRY SANCTUARY
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 156
WILSON, FRANK SANCTUARY
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 165
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. Family is from England from gran dad birth certificate so my best bet is there till they got here cant find anything
You already have this certificate?? What does it say?
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Ben Moulding Wilson can be seen in electoral rolls, eg Gascoyne in 1954
Died WA 1979. Father Thomas and Mother Eliza
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I thought ben moulding wilson may have been relative wasnt sure, for the father for my dad says hes a planter, hes 46 yrs old and birthplace is bengley yorkshire England
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yep that correct father thomas and mother eliza but no details on her
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OK, that fits
bIngley is the place of birth (in the keighly reg district) for Ben Moulding and Sarah as per 1911 census which you will have to look at yourself as I am not allowed to give details of it here.
They are with some extended family which is useful.
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Marriage of Thomas to eliza is this ref
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
Wilson Thomas Keighley 9a 400
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how do I get on census then?
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Either on Ancestry or Findmypast websites
Or https://ukcensusonline.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-4OhqdCJ4wIVlzMrCh3Gcw-BEAAYASAAEgJ2ePD_BwE
I’ve been trying to see it on Familysearch which is free to look at transcriptions, but no luck so far.
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possible 1901 census for Eliza Sanctuary???:
Bingley Yorkshire:
Head: Ellen Sanctuary aged 49 born Cullingworth Yorkshire
Son: Harry aged 19 born Keighley Yorkshire
Dau: Eliza aged 15 born Morton Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Son: Frank aged 13 born Morton Yorkshire
Dau: Ethel aged 9 born Bingley Yorkshire
Dau: Edna aged 6 born Bingley Yorkshire
Birth registrations:
SANCTUARY, HARRY no mother's maiden name recorded-
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 199
SANCTUARY, ELIZA no MMN recorded-
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 165
SANCTUARY, FRANK no MMN recorded-
GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 173
SANCTUARY, ETHEL STOCKDALE no MMN recorded-
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 179
SANCTUARY, EDNA STOCKDALE no MMN recorded-
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 175
Ellen Sanctuary in 1861 census??? living with her grandfather Joseph Moulding<<<<<
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWMJ-DL2
<<<<< Possibly where Ben Moulding Wilsons middle name comes from
link to 1911 census (records grandchildren Ben Moulding Wilson and Sarah Wilson):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNG-X13
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Hi there yes it looks like it, always wondered the moulding bit as middlename thank you
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Possible marriage for Joseph Moulding:
22nd Jan 1827
Bingley York
Joseph Moulding
Hannah Curtis
Possible census links for Joseph Moulding:
1841:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQP7-35S
1851:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPMW-VHZ
Joseph Moulding in 1871 census (living with son James and family)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBHL-ZSZ
Death for Hannah Moulding (nee Curtis)
MOULDING, HANNAH aged 51
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 117
Death for Joseph:
Deaths Jun 1877
MOULDING Joseph aged 77 Keighley 9a 131
Added:
1911 census link for Eliza Wilson (nee Sanctuary) and sons John and Harry:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNG-DPS
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I have possibly got a little confused between the 2 thread and missed something, but if you do not already have it, here is the immigration record.
WILSON,
Eliza. Housewife aged 28
Ben aged 10 year
Sarah aged 8 years
John aged 6 years
Harry aged 4 years
Frank aged 2 years
Ship Demosthenes
Year 1913
Departed London Augast 14th
I do not see Thomas on board.
Sue
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Hi Sue
No I dont have this, thank you
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Just reposting to help highlight Sue's find for the immigration of Harry, as per another current thread ;D
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here is the immigration record.
WILSON,
Eliza. Housewife aged 28
Ben aged 10 year
Sarah aged 8 years
John aged 6 years
Harry aged 4 years
Frank aged 2 years
Ship Demosthenes
Year 1913
Departed London Augast 14th
I do not see Thomas on board.
Sue
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Hi Sue
No I dont have this, thank you