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Title: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Winston55 on Friday 28 June 19 05:59 BST (UK)
Hi
Was the 74th Lancers called anything else and does anyone know where they were in the 1800s.  I am looking for William Carroll who was in the 74th Lancers and his father was also called William Carroll. They were both born in Ireland.  I found an 1841 Census that says they were in Glasgow at that time.
Thanks
Linda
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 28 June 19 08:11 BST (UK)
There was no such regiment as 74th Lancers. The 17th Lancers were in Glasgow at the time of the 1841 census and there was a Private William Carroll of that regiment recorded, with rounded down age 20. Is that who you mean?
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Winston55 on Friday 28 June 19 08:40 BST (UK)
Yes you are absolutely right, no idea where I got the 74th from!  It also lists Arabella/Isabella Purcell as 17th Lancers and that is who he married. How come she would be listed like that?
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Jebber on Friday 28 June 19 09:13 BST (UK)
A William CARROLL  Service number 586 Troop Sergeant Major of the 17th Lancers received the Indian Mutiny Medal, died 1 March 1860.
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 28 June 19 09:25 BST (UK)
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It also lists Arabella/Isabella Purcell as 17th Lancers and that is who he married. How come she would be listed like that?

It looks like married quarters and my guess would be that she is the wife of either Bernard or William Purcell, both privates in 17th Lancers in Govan. When did she marry William Carroll? 
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Winston55 on Friday 28 June 19 09:31 BST (UK)
I haven't been able to find a marriage date for William Carroll and Arabella/Isabella Purcell as yet.
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Winston55 on Friday 28 June 19 09:58 BST (UK)
A William CARROLL  Service number 586 Troop Sergeant Major of the 17th Lancers received the Indian Mutiny Medal, died 1 March 1860.
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Where did you find this?
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Jebber on Friday 28 June 19 10:36 BST (UK)
A William CARROLL  Service number 586 Troop Sergeant Major of the 17th Lancers received the Indian Mutiny Medal, died 1 March 1860.
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Where did you find this?

Military records on Findmypast.
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Winston55 on Friday 28 June 19 10:58 BST (UK)
Thanks
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 28 June 19 11:05 BST (UK)
The death date is not at all clear (NB the "Aldershot" bit relates to the entry above)
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Winston55 on Friday 28 June 19 11:09 BST (UK)
Thank you
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: LinleyHarris on Wednesday 26 February 20 13:53 GMT (UK)
Hi all, commented on another similar thread as well tonight... William Carroll 586 is my GGG grandfather.  Might be worth mentioning though that I came across another WC in the same regiment when I was searching through the muster rolls at Kew a few years back.  Their serviced seemed to overlap and I wondered if it was father and son... Sadly I lost the photos I took of the rolls when I accidentally machine washed my phone before downloading them...
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Winston55 on Thursday 27 February 20 07:30 GMT (UK)
William Carroll is also my ggg grandfather!
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Winston55 on Thursday 27 February 20 08:00 GMT (UK)
Do you know where he was born and any other information?
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: LinleyHarris on Thursday 27 February 20 11:35 GMT (UK)
From reading the other thread I now know that he was born in Ireland in 1821!  He married Ann sometime after 1841 (as she is not with him in the 1841 census) and they had four children.  Mary Ann born 1849 in Dublin, Emily born 1851 in Canterbury, William born 1853 in Hounslow and Ellen born in 1856.  William died in 1860 in India.  Ann and the children arrived in India shortly after he died.  She returned to, probably Ireland, with Mary Ann and left the three younger children in a military orphanage school. I am descended from son William born 1853...
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: Winston55 on Thursday 27 February 20 12:17 GMT (UK)
I go and get this right yet!
William Carrol and Arabella Purcell are my ggg grandparents.
William born 1821 had a sister Isabella (that's all I've found so far) born circa 1822 Ireland and she married John Kieley.  I am happy to share information and various certificates if you would like them.
Title: Re: 74TH Lancers
Post by: LinleyHarris on Thursday 27 February 20 12:55 GMT (UK)
Oh thanks so much, I would love to share info. Was Arabella maybe his first wife or William born 1821’s mother?  Is there a way of private messaging on here so that we can share privately?  I’ve been on this trail for years but new to this group?  Thanks, Linley in Perth, W Australia