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Title: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: tonythurston on Friday 28 June 19 18:43 BST (UK)
I am stuck and would be grateful for any guidance please. My notes say Martha died in Dublin in 1945 but I am doubting that. I am confident Martha was married to Davis Anderson (B Belfast 16 Apr 1873)

Many thanks
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: hallmark on Friday 28 June 19 18:52 BST (UK)
Civil Reg   Marriage and Death results for martha loherty on
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

No results found.
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: hallmark on Friday 28 June 19 18:57 BST (UK)
C Reg Marriage results for Davi* Anderson from 1890 to ?   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nz8/

on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

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Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: heywood on Friday 28 June 19 19:15 BST (UK)
Hello,

Is this the family in 1911? He is David though not Davis and his age is not quite right.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Whitehouse/Drumnadrough/191040/

The record shows married 21 yrs.

Heywood
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: heywood on Friday 28 June 19 19:21 BST (UK)
Birth of daughter Ellen shows mother’s maiden name as Doherty.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02402/1895745.pdf
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 28 June 19 19:23 BST (UK)
Marriage of David Anderson & Martha Doherty, 1889, Belfast
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10747/5918856.pdf

KG
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 28 June 19 20:26 BST (UK)

Birthplace of Ellen, Coolsallagh, Dromore, on the Lurgan Road west of Dromore.
https://www.townlands.ie/down/dromore/coolsallagh/

KG
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 28 June 19 21:26 BST (UK)

Maybe this is the birth of Martha  ???
Martha Lockhart Dogherty (sic), born January 1867 in Carrickfergus, MMN Montgomery.   #461
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03502/2287119.pdf

KG


Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: heywood on Friday 28 June 19 21:26 BST (UK)
Birth of Martha Lockhart Dogherty

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03502/2287119.pdf
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: heywood on Friday 28 June 19 21:27 BST (UK)
What a coincidence - both posted together  :)
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 28 June 19 21:31 BST (UK)
Great investigating, Heywood   ;D

KG
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: tonythurston on Friday 28 June 19 22:43 BST (UK)
Thank you both very much. Seems like i need to find David Anderson's birth certificate to clarify his age versus your excellent detective work - thank you
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: tonythurston on Friday 28 June 19 23:00 BST (UK)
David Anderson - 16 Apr 1873 - I cant read the mother's maiden name ... Burns ??
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: heywood on Friday 28 June 19 23:07 BST (UK)
It is Burns but that would make him 16yrs on his marriage which shows ‘full age’.
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: heywood on Friday 28 June 19 23:10 BST (UK)
1901 census has him 41 yrs - born abt 1860
1911 census - 53 yrs - born abt 1858

You won’t find a birth certificate - registration began in 1864
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: tonythurston on Friday 28 June 19 23:42 BST (UK)
So am I looking for a different David Anderson than the one married to Martha - thank you for your expert assistance
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: hallmark on Friday 28 June 19 23:48 BST (UK)
Is her name correct?

Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861  ??

Are you looking for a different David Anderson than the one married to Martha ??
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: heywood on Saturday 29 June 19 06:30 BST (UK)
Quote from: tonythurston on Friday 28 June 19 23:42 BST (UK)
So am I looking for a different David Anderson than the one married to Martha - thank you for your expert assistance

What do you mean?
Are you really looking for David Anderson b 1873?
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: heywood on Saturday 29 June 19 06:47 BST (UK)
Here are your other threads re Anderson.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=813664.msg6744134#msg6744134

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=813666.0

You have a Jane Anderson b 1933 to James Anderson and Mary Meehan.
You have the marriage of this couple

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09231/5340303.pdf

James’ father is shown as David, a Dyer.

David married to Martha Doherty is a Dyer in 1911 census - maybe in other records too?

Here is the birth of James Doherty Anderson - mother shown as nee Lockhart  :-\ perhaps an error?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02175/1823680.pdf
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: tonythurston on Saturday 29 June 19 12:18 BST (UK)
Thank you once again for your incredible patience and skill. I have adjusted my summary. I have found my Irish search the most difficult and have fallen into every Anderson trap. My cousin tells me earlier ancestors are Norwegian and i have found one Canadian ancestor so far. Thank you again
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: heywood on Saturday 29 June 19 13:05 BST (UK)
Quote from: Kiltaglassan on Friday 28 June 19 19:23 BST (UK)
Marriage of David Anderson & Martha Doherty, 1889, Belfast
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10747/5918856.pdf

KG

David’s father is shown as John on his marriage certificate whilst you have James.
You would need to find a baptism for David to find his parents and this could be difficult.
There are Catholic records online but your family are not Catholic.
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 29 June 19 13:13 BST (UK)
Maybe the Kennedy & Richardson surnames are part of your ancestors tree?
Agnes in the 1901 Irish Census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Emerson_Street/948452/

Agnes, born 30th October 1892   #260
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02328/1871678.pdf

KG
Title: Re: Trying to find parents of Martha Lockhart Loherty, b June 1861 in Belfast
Post by: tonythurston on Saturday 29 June 19 13:28 BST (UK)
Thank you - Kennedy possibly - Catherine b 1854 via Meehan line