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Title: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: emjsw on Monday 01 July 19 10:39 BST (UK)
Hello,

I hope that this post finds you well?

I know that this has probably been asked before but as a UK user of Ancestry with minimal family in the US, Canada and Australia I am wondering which site to renew with.
I am currently using Ancestry and The Geneologist (the latter doesn't really give you more than Ancestry unless you had a lot of family in London). With Ancestry the parish registers are handy, I often find family who are not transcribed on the site by reading through photos of the registers.
I am wondering whether to renew with Ancestry or try another site for a year.

Please could anyone who uses the other sites tell me what they offer that Ancestry does not? I have lots of Brick Walls for releatives born on the 1700s and would like to try and break them. On Ancestry you have to rely on BMD select sometimes which means you can't look at the original parish registers which often contain further useful information which is not transcribed in the select files.

Best wishes,
Emma
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: davidft on Monday 01 July 19 10:55 BST (UK)
Different sites have different collections of records therefore if you have been with Ancestry for a while and still have lots of brick walls it could be because the records that may help you are not on that site but may be on another.

Some public libraries have a subscription to one site or another so it would be worth checking out if yours does as then you can try out another site and see if you like it \ its any good. However, if you cannot do this have a look at the menus for the other sites and see if they have records that Ancestry don't and then its decision time to decide which result to go for. Some sites allow a free trial but you have to sign up first and cancel before the free trial ends if you don't want to take a subscription for a period. I don't advocate this approach but it seems to work for some people


Good luck
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: Kiltpin on Monday 01 July 19 12:11 BST (UK)
I have subscriptions to both Ancestry and Find My Past. 

My tree and my wife's tree  are on Ancestry - 
1 - Ease of inviting others to view and contribute to the trees.   
2 - Using Family Tree Maker, I can work all day off-line in some remote (wifi-less) churchyard or village and then sync to Ancestry when I get home. Saves doing the job twice with all the possible transcription errors removed. Especially handy when I am taking pictures of buildings and/or grave markers.   
 
I use Find My Past for Commonwealth and Foreign parts. 
 
1 - Ancestry has transcriptions, FindMyPast has the images! My first use of FindMyPast was one of their Remembrance Weekend  All Access events. In less than 48 hours, I downloaded 93 documents - most one page, but one will was 30 pages long. 
Ancesrty's transcription told me that John and Mary Smith had their son James baptised. The FindMyPast image showed me that they had three other children baptised at the same time, who I knew nothing about.   
2 - FindMyPast does not swamp me with US results. 
3 - The 1939 Register is excellent for seeing who was in the village at the same time - only yesterday I discovered what must have been the breakdown of a marriage. A married couple living at different addresses, with different people, only 100 yards away from each other. 
Ancestry will give me the reference for a source, but FindMyPast will give me the image of it.   
 
Regards 
 
Chas
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: coombs on Monday 01 July 19 13:09 BST (UK)
I have Ancestry and FindMyPast. Both sites have their pluses and their minuses.

I find Ancestry has lots of images, but surname variants are harder to find. Suffolk, Durham, Berks, Bucks and Sussex has very poor coverage on there but Essex, London, Dorset, Somerset, Oxfordshire etc is well covered now. FindMyPast has much more Suffolk records. FindMyPast has many images as well.

Census returns are much easier to search on FindMyPast than Ancestry to me anyway. I get to find many families that are harder to find on Ancestry.

FindMyPast has an easier surname search and a radius search for a surname which can be handy for finding potential relatives of the same name. However, their Soundex search can throw up irrelevant results. If I type "Obay" or "Obey" as a surname I get lots of results for "Bird". FreeREG throws up lots of Harper results for Harbord/Herbert (and variants) and the Harbord/Herbert results are swamped by Harpers.



Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 02 July 19 23:12 BST (UK)
Dear Coombs, Chas and Davidft,

Thank you ever so much for your help, advice and suggestions. It looks to me  like perhaps I could try FindMyPast for a while to see if it helps me breakdown some brick walls especially as it seems to have a slightly different search function.

I really appreciate you all taking the time to get in touch,

Best wishes,
Emma
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: Craclyn on Tuesday 02 July 19 23:15 BST (UK)
It really depends on which record sets you need. I subscribe to all of these sites. I do most of my UK research on findmypast as I find it easier to search and it has more reliable transcriptions. However, there are records on Ancestry which are not on FindMyPast. I very rarely need to check out anything using MyHeritage records.
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 02 July 19 23:26 BST (UK)
It really depends on which record sets you need. I subscribe to all of these sites. I do most of my UK research on findmypast as I find it easier to search and it has more reliable transcriptions. However, there are records on Ancestry which are not on FindMyPast. I very rarely need to check out anything using MyHeritage records.

That is really helpful, thank you. I have found the wills, court and military records via fold 3 quite helpful on Ancestry but have found some of their bmd coverage not quite so good and some people are missing from transcriptions (but are in the parish registers). Ancestry DNA has not been very useful (I uploaded the data to MyHeritage and found a few links but couldn't look at them as I hadn't paid for a subscription). I think I will find FindMyPast really useful and haven't really heard from anyone that MyHeritage is helpful so thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks for getting back to me.
Best wishes,
Emma
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: cristeen on Wednesday 03 July 19 00:03 BST (UK)
You can access old newspapers via FindMyPast which I find especially useful :)
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: emjsw on Wednesday 03 July 19 00:22 BST (UK)
You can access old newspapers via FindMyPast which I find especially useful :)

That is really good to know, thank you :)
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: Craclyn on Wednesday 03 July 19 00:24 BST (UK)
If you are finding AncestryDNA not very useful then you may need to spend more time figuring out how it works. Learn how to group matches with colour coding and how to leverage the Common Ancestors functionality. It is the easiest of all of the DNA sites to when it comes to identifying how your matches fit into your tree.
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: emjsw on Wednesday 03 July 19 00:41 BST (UK)
If you are finding AncestryDNA not very useful then you may need to spend more time figuring out how it works. Learn how to group matches with colour coding and how to leverage the Common Ancestors functionality. It is the easiest of all of the DNA sites to when it comes to identifying how your matches fit into your tree.

Thanks for getting back to me. I think it is more that most people I share DNA with don't have common surnames in their tree and we can't find out how we match, also I have alot of illegitimate births in my tree and the father could be anyone :(
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: Craclyn on Wednesday 03 July 19 17:56 BST (UK)
When you are aware of an illegitimate birth then you need to start grouping matches that could lie in that part of your tree and then analyse their trees to look for their common ancestors. This can give you clues as to the ancestral lines for the father of the illegitimate child.
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: emjsw on Thursday 04 July 19 21:57 BST (UK)
When you are aware of an illegitimate birth then you need to start grouping matches that could lie in that part of your tree and then analyse their trees to look for their common ancestors. This can give you clues as to the ancestral lines for the father of the illegitimate child.

Thank you very much for the tip 😊
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: JaneyH_104 on Tuesday 16 July 19 13:20 BST (UK)
Hi Emma,

If you’re looking at which site to subscribe to in order to access records (separate from questions about DNA research) then some of the key points for me are as follows:

- Ancestry is great because it syncs with Family Tree Maker, which I use like Chas, who posted earlier.
- FindMyPast has a better search facility, and also benefits from including the British Newspaper Archive.

Then, it comes down to coverage of different counties for parish records. Ancestry has comprehensive coverage of West Yorkshire, Gloucestershire and London. FindMyPast is essential if you’re researching for ancestors in Devon or Cheshire.

I started out with just Ancestry but for the last few years I’ve subscribed to both as my tree has grown.
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: coombs on Wednesday 17 July 19 14:38 BST (UK)
I have not tried MyHeritage yet, as I thought many records there are American but I stand corrected. I always use Ancestry or FindMyPast. So glad Ancestry have released Essex records.
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: emjsw on Thursday 18 July 19 09:41 BST (UK)
When you are aware of an illegitimate birth then you need to start grouping matches that could lie in that part of your tree and then analyse their trees to look for their common ancestors. This can give you clues as to the ancestral lines for the father of the illegitimate child.

Ah thank you, that is really helpful. I have started doing that and am finding some interesting links. Sadly many of my matches don't have trees and don't reply to messages but as more people get their DNA done in time perhaps these blanks might be filled. Thanks for your help :)
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: emjsw on Thursday 18 July 19 09:45 BST (UK)
Hi Emma,

If you’re looking at which site to subscribe to in order to access records (separate from questions about DNA research) then some of the key points for me are as follows:

- Ancestry is great because it syncs with Family Tree Maker, which I use like Chas, who posted earlier.
- FindMyPast has a better search facility, and also benefits from including the British Newspaper Archive.

Then, it comes down to coverage of different counties for parish records. Ancestry has comprehensive coverage of West Yorkshire, Gloucestershire and London. FindMyPast is essential if you’re researching for ancestors in Devon or Cheshire.

I started out with just Ancestry but for the last few years I’ve subscribed to both as my tree has grown.

Hi,
Thank you very much for getting back to me. I have just got family tree maker on the recommendations from this post and because I have loads of missing Devon and Chester records I have subscribed to FindMyPast. My Mum and Dad renewed my Ancestry account top so I am all set  for the next year.
Thank you very much for your helpful advice :)
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: emjsw on Thursday 18 July 19 09:47 BST (UK)
I have not tried MyHeritage yet, as I thought many records there are American but I stand corrected. I always use Ancestry or FindMyPast. So glad Ancestry have released Essex records.

Thank you very much for getting back to me. I have subscribed to FindMyPast and Ancestry now for the next year. Best of luck with researching the Essex records, I hope that you find what you are looking for :)
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: Pheno on Thursday 18 July 19 10:11 BST (UK)

Thanks for getting back to me. I think it is more that most people I share DNA with don't have common surnames in their tree and we can't find out how we match, also I have alot of illegitimate births in my tree and the father could be anyone :(

What I have done in the past with illegitimacy is, if I have an inkling of whom the father might be, then to put him into my online ancestry tree as if he is the true ancestor (albeit with a note) and then let thrulines and dna matches take their course and see if they link you with somebody else.  You can keep deleting these putative fathers and trying another person and seeing if anything different comes up.  Doing this has, in two cases, helped me overcome brickwalls.

Pheno
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: StevenG on Thursday 18 July 19 11:57 BST (UK)
So glad Ancestry have released Essex records.
Ancestry don't have the images for Essex, just links to the pay site. So it's effectively useless.
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: melba_schmelba on Friday 19 July 19 10:39 BST (UK)
So glad Ancestry have released Essex records.
Ancestry don't have the images for Essex, just links to the pay site. So it's effectively useless.
Interestingly, in the description of the records (added in June), it states:

"About Essex, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
This collection contains images of Church of England parish registers of baptisms and burials during the years 1538–1812, and marriages during the years 1538-1754 from Essex, England."


https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/essexearlyparish/

So, I wonder if the plan was originally for Essex to allow Ancestry to use the images, they then flipped on them, and stubbornly tried to squeeze a few more £1000s from their SEAX site, which in my experience is inadequate since many of the records are of very low resolution, so much so as to be in many cases illegible. Unless Ancestry rescanned the images, and handed them over to Essex RO. But this seems a very cack handed arrangement really, Essex should have just tried to get a bit more for their records by pitting Ancestry against findmypast or myheritage.
Title: Re: Ancestry vs MyHeritage vs FindMyPast
Post by: emjsw on Monday 22 July 19 09:58 BST (UK)

Thanks for getting back to me. I think it is more that most people I share DNA with don't have common surnames in their tree and we can't find out how we match, also I have alot of illegitimate births in my tree and the father could be anyone :(

What I have done in the past with illegitimacy is, if I have an inkling of whom the father might be, then to put him into my online ancestry tree as if he is the true ancestor (albeit with a note) and then let thrulines and dna matches take their course and see if they link you with somebody else.  You can keep deleting these putative fathers and trying another person and seeing if anything different comes up.  Doing this has, in two cases, helped me overcome brickwalls.

Pheno

Hey that is a great idea, thanks very much for telling me about it :)