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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: Westy11 on Saturday 06 July 19 14:01 BST (UK)
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Based on the post at https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815283.new#new Albrt BECK son of Henry BECK & Amelia TOMLINSON was baptised at Cadeby, Leicestershire, England 05 Apr 1891.
In May 1914 Albert aged 23 and a qualified carpenter and joiner migrated to Canada with a destination of Toronto.
It seems he marries Bella/Isabella and the couple have one child however I am hoping with your help to confirm this events and hopefully locate further information concerning his family in Canada.
Westy
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"Google says"....................
Bella married Albert Leonard Beck on month day 1945, at age 28 at marriage place. Albert was .... Albert was born in 1891, in Cadeby, Leicestershire, England............................
Albert Leonard would be born 1917................. ???
Sandra
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Google has mashed two things together there. This is the pertinent one:
"Bella Beck, born 1891
Bella Beck was born in 1891, at birth place.
Bella married Albert Beck.
Albert was born in 1891, in Cadeby, Leicestershire, England.
They had one child.
Bella passed away."
https://www.myheritage.com/names/bella_beck
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Thanks Sandra.
Interestingly th middle name of Leonard surfaces after Albert leaves England
Westy
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Thanks Sandra.
Westy
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Is there any other reference of a "Leonard" within the Beck family.
Sandra
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To date I don't have any other reference to a Leonard in the line of the BECK family that I am pursuing.
I havent finished my research into Albert's siblings and their descendants.
Westy
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Albert Beck
Trade: Carpenters & Joiners
Union name: Amalgamated Society Of Carpenters & Joiners
Union branch: Leicester 3
Age when admitted: 21y 5m
Admission: 15th June 1912
Transferred to Toronto, Canada on 21st April 1914
David
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"Leonard" is a red herring. As I have said, Google mashed two MyHeritage teaser reports together in response to Sandra's search.
This is the full version of the "Albert Leonard" item:
"Bella Anne Beck (born MacLean), 1916 - 1997
Bella Anne Beck (born MacLean) was born on month day 1916, at birth place, to Kenneth MacLean and Alexina MacLean (born MacLeod).
Kenneth was born in 1889, in Isle of Skye Scotland.
Alexina was born in 1889, in Kilmuir, Scotland.
Bella had 2 sisters: Kathleen ROCK (born MacLean) and one other sibling.
Bella married Albert Leonard Beck on month day 1945, at age 28 at marriage place.
Albert was born on May 25 1917, in Indooroopilly, 4068, Australia.
They had 2 children.
Bella passed away of cause of death on month day 1997, at age 80 at death place.
She was buried on month day 1997, at burial place."
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To date I don't have any other reference to a Leonard in the line of the BECK family that I am pursuing.
I havent finished my research into Albert's siblings and their descendants.
Westy
Does that include death notices, obituaries etc., Nothing mentions Albert at all ?
Sandra
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Nothing popping out on the Canadian census. Link below.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1921/Pages/search.aspx
Nothing for him in Canadian Attestion Papers that I could see :'(
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/search.aspx
Sandra
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Hi,
Checked Toronto papers and didn't see anything for Albert.
Looked in the 1921, 1915 and 1914 Toronto Directories and didn't see him...but there is an Albert C. Beck, carpenter in the 1913 Directory. He boards at 150 Spadina Ave.
https://archive.org/details/torontodirec191300midiuoft/page/n449
RK
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Many thanks to Sandra, Shaun, David, & RK,
To date there is no indication Albert used the middle name of “Leonard” nor any middle name in England however I have noticed that some parents give a name to their child and perhaps add middle names later so it’s certainly possibly that Leonard was his middle name.
Those who have gone before us obviously didn’t realise a whole industry based on official records would form the basis for genealogical pursuits when tracking descendants. Perhaps if they had they would have been more diligent to ensure those of us who come after wouldn’t have such a tough time of it when tracing them. ;D
RK located an Albert C. Beck in the 1913 Directory. Albert’s May 1914 migration asked if the person migrating had previously been to Canada and if so when and for how long. Albert had said no to each of these questions. What does this mean for a 1913 Directory entry? I wonder did Albert organise his employment and accommodation before he migrated and if so then this would perhaps fit.
In addition whilst Albert was both a qualified carpenter and joiner; his migration papers noted he was permanently moving to Canada and the trade he would follow was Joiner. These trades share commonality so perhaps Albert found employment as a Carpenter rather than a Joiner???
Shaun located a reference to the 1917 born Albert's birth in Indooroopilly in Queensland. The Albert I am seeking was definitely born in 1891 in Cadeby Leicestershire, England. Maybe there were two Alberts both born around a similar time, both Carpenters/Joiners and both moved to Canada???
Any ideas?
Westy
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Father Henry seems to have died in 1941, he left a will
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=beck&yearOfDeath=1941&page=2#calendar
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Somtimes those directory entries (particularly in the USA) refer to the year previously. Wouldn't have thought they would record hin before he arrived. He doesn't seem to appear on the next census in 1921 as we mentioned previously. Wonder if he succumbed to the flu epidemic between 1918 - 1920 ??? Or could he have returned to the UK ??? Didn't see an entry for him crossing the border to the USA. Have you got an exact birth for Albert ?
https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/culture/clmhc-hsmbc/res/doc/information-backgrounder/espagnole-spanish
None of the probate entries for the brothers that I searched yesterday mentioned Albert.
Sandra
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Death in Queensland in 1972
Albert Beck
father Henry
mother Amelia Tomlinson
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=deaths
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An Albert Beck married Isabella Morton Muir in Queensland in 1920.
She died in 1954 (parents David Muir + Mary Brown)
But I don't know if this is Bella + Albert from the online tree
See notices in the Brisbane newspapers in May 1954 on Trove ;D
Here's one of them, Metropolitan Funerals
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o0o/
The name Bolton is mentioned (and I think is also in that MyHeritage tree)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o0p/
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Mount Thompson Crematorium Memorial Gardens
Albert Beck, died 30 July 1972, age 81
https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/mtthompsonmemorialgardens/albert-beck/380895
Isabella Morton Beck, died 7 May 1954, age 64
https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/mtthompsonmemorialgardens/isabella-morton-beck/380824
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Death in Queensland in 1972
Albert Beck
father Henry
mother Amelia Tomlinson
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=deaths
Excellent result jonw65 - so the Heritage info was not so much "mashed" ::)
Sandra
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Excellent result jonw65 - so the Heritage info was not so much "mashed" ::)
Just coincidence I think, but quite a big one!
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The name Bolton is mentioned (and I think is also in that MyHeritage tree)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o0p/
The information jonw65 has found for you indicates that this couple had at least one daughter who was a student in 1980 when the family lived 12 Uralla Street Dorrington Queensland. Father was a surveyor.
http://house.speakingsame.com/rp.php?q=12+Uralla+Street,%20Ashgrove%20QLD,%20Australia&lat=-27.440701&lng=152.982483
Sandra
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Hello Sandra, Jon, & Shaun,
Thank you so very much for your fantastic work. And how amazing to find Albert's remains lie not far from where I work.
I genuinely don't think I would have though to look in Australia and nonetheless I am so glad you did.
I will look and try to find when Albert came to Australia.
Thanks so very much once again. :-*
Westy
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By the way, if you are looking for Albert on the Megantic, departed Liverpool 25 April 1914, via outward passenger lists from the UK...
On ancestry he is A Book, 29. The other site has him as A Bock.
The second and third letters in Beck are a bit unclear! But it does say that he is 29.
Confirmed by his ticket number, 3172371
It's not always easy to find them!
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Jon thanks a million.
Rootschatters are wonderful and skilled.
regards,
Westy