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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Berwickshire => Topic started by: hoprigg on Monday 08 July 19 16:31 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I am hoping someone may know the answer to my query please.
I am looking for a wedding confirmation of a Peter Drummond in 22nd August 1850 at Lamberton Toll to Mary Edwards Clazie.
Please can you help.
Thank you in advance for any help.
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There's no record of this marriage in the pre-1855 church registers at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. However this doesn't mean that the marriage did not take place, just that the record of it, if one ever existed, has almost certainly not survived.
There is a small chance that it could be in a register of a minority denomination whose registers have not yet been digitised, for example the Episcopal church or a Free Church whose congregation have not given permission for it to be digitised.
There are two possible avenues of enquiry. The easiest would be to look at the birth certificates of those of their children born after 1860 - Agnes in 1863 and Isabella in 1868, both of which should tell you the date and place of the parents' marriage.
See also https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/birth-death-and-marriage-records/irregular-border-marriage-registers and https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=473982.0
If all else fails, a long shot might be the Kirk Session records, either of Mordington (the parish in which Lamberton Toll is situated, I believe) or of Edrom, where their first child was baptised.
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This thread may be useful https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=161128.0
Kay
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Thank you...:-)
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Lamberton Toll
this was a Toll just over the border from Berwick upon Tweed where marriages were performed Like Gretna Green often by
rogue priests or by blacksmiths (The first place in Scotland for elopements on the East coast) I know that an ancestor of mine a blacksmith was witness to a lot of these marriages Berwick upon tweed archives (which is in Berwick library) hold some of these records
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hoprigg i have volume I for Lamberton Toll 1833-1849 so doesn't cover 1850 and I checked and negative result.
Maybe someone can tell me if there is a volume 2?
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Lamberton toll
I have a booklet irregular Marriages volume II recorded in Berwick Advertiser and other Border papers covers 1808 to 1864 this covers Lamberton Toll If you would like a copy ISBN 1 904656 55 5 If its just a couple of names you need I,ll look for them in this book
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Hello Belhay, just saw this post. I looked for that ISBN but it never found anything at all. If you could do a search for me that would be so kind.
The name would be "Clazie" in this form or other viariants. Also "Drummond".
Thank you very much.
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i found a david drummond of Edrom married to a Clazie and several more Clazies in the Borders but
not Peter,s marriage . According to Ancestry.co census his wife was born Eyemouth and he was born further north. Their marriage is not in the Irregular marriages 1808-1864 but Berwick archives has microfilm which includes dates July1850-November1850 so you might be in luck there Unfortunately the office which is in the Berwick library has been closed since last March but we hope it will be opening after Easter I,ll check it out if you haven,t found the marriage by then
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Thank you very much for your help. Woukd you be able to ping me a message with the ones that you have found just in case i don't have those.
Thank you.
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Hi a couple of names that I checked for you Peter Drummond death Preston 16 july age 6o 1882
wife Mary son john present on certificate of death Peter,s father Peter and mother Isabella Bell
Mary Drummond 4 august 1891 age 62 widow of Peter at Preston present was son Archie
her father John Clazie (joiner) mother Margaret Gray
The only Mary Clazie marriage at Mordington I can find was 1832 Mary to John Wilson but her father was James
A couple of birth certificates for peter,s children 1 states Peter,s marriage at Paxton Toll another says
Peter,s marriage at Ladykirk which is a church just over the border from Norham inland along river from Berwick 7 or 8 miles Hope this is a bit of help
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Thank you ever so much for your time...much appreciated indeed.