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Title: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: ozziemike on Tuesday 09 July 19 08:48 BST (UK)
Joseph died aged 53 in Turton (Bolton, Lanc's) in 1849. He was born in Buckinghamshire. Trying to establish where and when he was born and who he married. I don't have access to 1841 England census. Had a son, William (born circa 1819 Bredlow, Buckinghamshire) William's wife was Charlotte Chisnall.
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 09 July 19 15:12 BST (UK)
Could you mean Bledlow, Buckinghamshire

Marriage details of son William
17 May 1840 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire
William Stevens occ Stretcher, Bachelor, Turton
Charlotte Chisnall, Turton
Groom's Father Joseph Stevens occ Striker
Bride's Father Richd. Chisnall occ Shoe Maker
Witnesses James Booth &  James Liptrot

How do you know Joseph was born in Buckinghamshire

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What details does Josephs death certificate give - Widowed ? address , informant etc
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 09 July 19 15:22 BST (UK)
Could this be Williams mother and his siblings in 1851 all born Buckinghamshire living Bolton

Martha age 58 widow
Eden 26 son
Henry 22 son
Richard 19 son
Elizabeth Mather dtr - widow
HO107/2208 f323 p20
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 09 July 19 15:27 BST (UK)
Daughter Elizabeth's marriage
27 Apr 1845 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire
James Mather occ Spinner, Bachelor, Egerton
Elizabeth Stevens  Spinster, Egerton
Groom's Father Henry Mather, occ Dyer
Bride's Father Joseph Stevens occ Butcher
Witnesses John Handley & James Liptrot
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 09 July 19 15:33 BST (UK)
Richards baptism at Bledlow
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1XD-K13

Williams baptism at Cheddington
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKYL-SVJ

Marriage at Cheddington (familysearch)
Joseph Stevens
Martha Seabrooke
21 Oct 1823
Cheddington, Buckingham
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 09 July 19 15:36 BST (UK)
1841 census for the family including William and his new wife https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQLP-XV5
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: bucksboy on Tuesday 09 July 19 20:27 BST (UK)
From the Bledlow, Bucks.  May Lanchbury web site.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150304093533/http://lanchbury.id.au/genealogy/bledlow1700.html

Baptism - Apr 12 1795 - Joseph and Mary, twins of Jas & Susanh Stephens.

Baptism - 1829. Born 18 July, bapt 17 Aug. Richard son of Joseph & Martha Stevens of Bledlow. Occ. Baker

From Bucks FHS.  Cheddington Transcripts CD.

Marriage - 21 Oct 1823. by Banns
             Joseph(x)STEVENS, Bachelor otp
             Martha(x)SEABROOKE, Spinster otp
             Witnesses - Richard X Figg, and Mary(x)Seabrooke.

Baptism - 18 Jan 1829. William born 30 Nov 1828 child of Joseph & Martha STEVENS of Cheddington, Labourer.
Baptism - 19 Jun 1831.  George child of Joseph & Martha STEVENS of Cheddington, Labourer.

Burial  - 1859.  William STEVENS aged 27 of Cheddington, killed on the railroad.
Burial  - 9 Sep 1864.  George STEVENS aged 33 of Cheddington, typhus.

1841 census.

George Stevens
abt 1831
Born: Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Cheddington
Buckinghamshire.

Address: Blenkham Farm. ??

Reg. dist. Leighton Buzzard
Sub-reg. dist. Ivinghoe
Piece: 49. Book: 2. Folio: 4. Page 2.

Joseph Stevens   35. ag Lab.
Marthar Stevens 35
William Stevens   10
George Stevens   10
Hannah Stevens   5
Thomas Stevens 4
Ann Stevens 3

All b.i.c.

Marriage  29 Jul 1857   by Banns
              William MILLINS, aged 19, Bachelor of Cheddington, Labourer son of Joseph Millins, Labourer
               Ann X STEVENS, aged 19, Spinster of Cheddington daughter of Joseph Stevens, Labourer
               Witnesses - Eliza X Tooley & Thomas Stevens.

Marriage  2 Aug 1860. by Banns
               Thomas X STEVENS, aged 24, Bachelor of Cheddington, Labourer son of Joseph Stevens, Labourer
                Mary TOOLEY, aged 22, Spinster of Cheddington daughter of Thomas Tooley, Labourer
                Witnesses - Daniel Elliott & Rachel X Tooley

Marriage 16 Jan 1859   by Banns
              Edward HORNE, aged 23, Widower of Cheddington, Labourer son of William Horne, Labourer
              Hannah STEVENS, aged 24, Spinster of Cheddington daughter of Joseph Stevens, Labourer
              Witnesses - Anne X Millins &  William Millins.

Marriage - 12 Oct 1852. by Banns
              William STEVENS, aged fa, Bachelor of Cheddington, Labourer son of Joseph Stevens, Labourer
               Sarah Ann  WORD, aged 18, Spinster of Fleet Marston daughter of Robert Word, Labourer
               Witnesses - Hannah X Procter & Thomas Stevens .

Burial - 18 Aug 1844.   Martha STEVENS aged 42 of Cheddington
Burial - 13 Jan 1882.  Joseph STEVENS aged 80 of Cheddington.

Marriage 10 Feb 1846   by Banns
              Joseph X STEVENS, aged fa, Widower of Cheddington, Labourer son of James Stevens, Labourer
               Mary X TOMPKINS, aged fa, Spinster of Cheddington daughter of Wm Tompkins, Wheelwright
                Witnesses - Elizabeth X Tompkins & Thomas Tompkins.


Burial - 15 May 1887.   Mary Anne STEVENS aged 75 of Cheddington
Burial  - 4 Jan 1888.  Mary STEVENS aged 67 of Cheddington


Steve. :)
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: ozziemike on Wednesday 10 July 19 06:49 BST (UK)
Thank you Rosie99 and Bucksboy for your help.
Bredlow should have read Bledlow (typo). The 1841 Census was spot on so it confirms that Martha was Joseph's wife. It seems they may have been in the poor house at the time.
On Williams marriage certificate Joseph's occupation was "baker". On his death certificate it was given as "labourer".
On the 1881 census William's place of birth was recorded as Buckingham. I don't think that the William born 30 Nov 1828 at Cheddington is correct because my William married in 1840! The marriage between Joseph Stevens and Martha Seabrooke at Cheddington in 1823 may be a red herring seeing that my William was born circa 1819 (died 1890 aged 71).
The baptism of Richard in 1829 at Bledlow may be the Richard on the 1841 census only because Joseph his father was shown as a baker.
Because the 1841 census doesn't show where residents were born it appears difficult to pin point where exactly Joseph was born, the maiden name of Martha and where they were married. Will keep looking.
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: jonw65 on Wednesday 10 July 19 08:38 BST (UK)
The 1841 Census was spot on so it confirms that Martha was Joseph's wife. It seems they may have been in the poor house at the time.

I think ignore "institution"
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: bucksboy on Wednesday 10 July 19 11:20 BST (UK)
Thank you Rosie99 and Bucksboy for your help.
Bredlow should have read Bledlow (typo). The 1841 Census was spot on so it confirms that Martha was Joseph's wife. It seems they may have been in the poor house at the time.
On Williams marriage certificate Joseph's occupation was "baker". On his death certificate it was given as "labourer".
On the 1881 census William's place of birth was recorded as Buckingham. I don't think that the William born 30 Nov 1828 at Cheddington is correct because my William married in 1840! The marriage between Joseph Stevens and Martha Seabrooke at Cheddington in 1823 may be a red herring seeing that my William was born circa 1819 (died 1890 aged 71).
The baptism of Richard in 1829 at Bledlow may be the Richard on the 1841 census only because Joseph his father was shown as a baker.
Because the 1841 census doesn't show where residents were born it appears difficult to pin point where exactly Joseph was born, the maiden name of Martha and where they were married. Will keep looking.
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Yes, the Cheddington family are not yours. All info proves it. Just a question mark of the burial for Joseph's 2nd wife.  Sorry about adding all that to this thread....but it saves repeated requests to confirm it, and also clarifies where else you need to search.

Bledlow seems the place to look.  As for Buckingham.......could be Shire, or town.  Been there many times, with p.o.b, as just Buckinghamshire.

BucksFHS can do a search in Bucks, for the other Joseph Stevens/Stephens marriage and baptism. 1 per 100 year search, for each event.

The May Lanchbury Site is ok, but there is so much missing, so don't rely on it 100%


Steve. :)
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: bucksboy on Wednesday 10 July 19 16:19 BST (UK)
Hooray. ;D ;D

From OxFHS - Marriage index, and Chinnor PR's CD transcripts.

Joseph Stevens(of Bledlow, Bucks), married Martha Jennings, 18 April 1816 at Chinnor, Oxfordshire. Witnesses - Thomas East & John Cooper.

This marriage fits with Joseph Stevens baptism in Bledlow, Bucks(Apr 12 1795 - Joseph and Mary, twins of Jas & Susanh Stephens).

I'll check for baptisms in Chinnor PR's

Steve. :)
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: bucksboy on Wednesday 10 July 19 16:38 BST (UK)
Using the May Lanchbury web site, no baptisms except for Richard Stevens......BUT, found this.!

Bledlow - Henry Wheeler of this parish - bachelor and Jane Stevens of this parish - spinster
By banns 23 Nov 1815, in the presence of Joseph Stevens & Martha Jennings.

Ancestry web site, is playing up(maintenance), but managed to see Martha Stevens(nee Jennings place of birth, as Wendover, Buckinghamshire.

From BucksFHS - Wendover Transcripts CD.

Baptism - 9 Jul 1791.  Martha, daughter of John & Hester JENNINGS.

Marriage 26 Dec 1788.  by Banns
                       John X JENNINGS, Bachelor otp
                       Hester X SEWELL, Spinster of Monks Risborough(Bucks)
                       Witnesses - John X Noons & John Franklin. 



Steve. :)
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: ozziemike on Thursday 11 July 19 04:30 BST (UK)
Thanks bucksboy (Steve) for all the information you have provided which has proven to be invaluable. Certainly has filled in a lot of gaps going backwards in the family line. Going forward is so much easier.
Mike  :)
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: bucksboy on Thursday 11 July 19 11:40 BST (UK)
My Paternal Grandmother was a Stevens, not sure if there is a link with your Stevens, and mine.  The locailty is close.  My 4x Gramps was John Stevens, 1773, Bledlow, Bucks.

Just need to find the marriage of Jas.(James) Stevens and Susannah......the parents of Joseph.

Good luck with your research.

Steve. :)
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: ozziemike on Friday 12 July 19 09:00 BST (UK)
We do appear to have a family connection. The parents of my Joseph (1793) were James Stevens (13 Oct 1763 Bledlow) and Sussana. His parents were James (10 Sep 1732 Bledlow) and Mary. James parents were Edward and Elizabeth who, I believe to be the parents of your John 1733. James and John are brothers. Edward is the 8 x great grandfather of my wife.
Still looking for marriages which don't appear to be in the Bledlow records.
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: bucksboy on Friday 12 July 19 14:33 BST (UK)
James Stevens(1770, of Bledlow), married Susannah Higgins, 29 June 1794 @ Saunderton, Bucks.

Saunderton is close to Bledlow.  You'll find it easier to go to google maps, and see the area.

James Stevens, son of Jeremiah Stevens, and Deborah(nee. Smith).

Marriage
21 Apr 1766 St Mary's, Princes Risborough, Buckinghamshire, England

Jeremiah(x)STEVENS of Bledlow, Deborah(x)SMITH otp. . Witnesses - John Smith & Joshua Meakes .
Seems we are connected in some way.

Steve. :)
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: ggrocott on Monday 26 April 21 10:22 BST (UK)
I have just discovered a possible link to the Stevens family of Bledlow.

I believe the Daniel Stevens I have been chasing for years may be Daniel Stevens bp 1752 Bledlow, son of Daniel and Hannah.  There are other candidates, but this seems to be the most likely one. Unfortunately the 'launchbury' site that used to be online and contained many records for Bledlow no longer seems to respond. 

If anyone can help me with any more information about possible siblings of Daniel I would be very grateful.


Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: bucksboy on Monday 26 April 21 16:09 BST (UK)
I have just discovered a possible link to the Stevens family of Bledlow.

I believe the Daniel Stevens I have been chasing for years may be Daniel Stevens bp 1752 Bledlow, son of Daniel and Hannah.  There are other candidates, but this seems to be the most likely one. Unfortunately the 'launchbury' site that used to be online and contained many records for Bledlow no longer seems to respond. 

If anyone can help me with any more information about possible siblings of Daniel I would be very grateful.

Private message sent. :)
Title: Re: Joseph Stevens - born circa 1796 & died 4 March 1849
Post by: ggrocott on Monday 26 April 21 18:55 BST (UK)
Thanks.  :-)