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Title: Resource website no longer live
Post by: KerryF on Saturday 13 July 19 01:31 BST (UK)
http://www.countysutherland.co.uk/
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 13 July 19 02:57 BST (UK)
Not sure if this is connected but may be worth a look?

https://cosuthfamhistory.blogspot.com/


Annie
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Saturday 13 July 19 06:43 BST (UK)
Try

https://www.facebook.com/groups/180221098349/

Malky
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 13 July 19 08:29 BST (UK)
You can access it on the Internet Wayback Machine
https://archive.org/web/web.php

Put http://www.countysutherland.co.uk/ in the box
Stan
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: djct59 on Saturday 13 July 19 21:12 BST (UK)
This useful site remains live (but maybe not for much longer) - https://public.fotki.com/rhemusaig/burial_grounds/
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: KerryF on Sunday 14 July 19 07:06 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone :)
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: wilros on Thursday 22 April 21 21:18 BST (UK)
This useful site remains live (but maybe not for much longer) - https://public.fotki.com/rhemusaig/burial_grounds/

The fabulous photo archive formerly hosted at fotki is now inaccessible.

Anyone have any suggestions on recovering the thousands of formerly accessible burial ground posts that were so useful?

[wr]
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: djct59 on Thursday 22 April 21 22:29 BST (UK)
The photographs were taken nearly twenty years ago ago by Angi Lamb, who was on here briefly as "rupparti" about eight years back.

I'm sad to report that Angi died last July aged only 63.

She made a set of the images available to Christine Stokes, and it was she who set up the fotki site. Christine stopped paying her fotki subscription in 2018 and it was a surprise that the images remained online for so long afterwards. It looks like the archive may therefore be lost forever.

To make matters worse, weathering on some of the older sandstone grave markers has resulted in significant additional deterioration. Some that were legible in 2003 are wholly unreadable now.
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: wilros on Thursday 22 April 21 23:22 BST (UK)
I'm sad to report that Angi died last July aged only 63.

oh my, i am so sorry to hear that she has passed on. in 2019 i was fortunate to correspond with angi at her gmail address.

yes the photos were old and some were low resolution. but it was more than just photos, i used to copy and paste from her transcriptions as well. lol, can't do that from the cowper and ross coded text! angi published a translation of the alexander mackay + hughina macleod inscription at balnakeil from scots gaelic into english, a memorial that is at the foot of the table stone for my 4x great grandparents (because they were also hughina's maternal grandparents). and angi published an errata for hew morrison. these were not trivial accomplishments.

i reference her three published indices often in the durness genealogy profiles that i curate. and although she is gone these three documents angi created still resolve correctly for downloading from google.

https://tinyurl.com/pwp6zse8 - Index of Sutherland Durness Baptisms and Births 1764-1874

https://tinyurl.com/5rn3thyw - Index of Sutherland Durness Marriages 1765-1875

https://tinyurl.com/a5zxk7ds - Errata in published records of Durness baptisms and marriages from 1764-1875

thanks very much for details, djct59.

[wr]

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Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: Chris Doran on Friday 23 April 21 00:06 BST (UK)
This useful site remains live (but maybe not for much longer) - https://public.fotki.com/rhemusaig/burial_grounds/

The fabulous photo archive formerly hosted at fotki is now inaccessible.

Anyone have any suggestions on recovering the thousands of formerly accessible burial ground posts that were so useful?

[wr]
Clicking on that link gives a message that says access is blocked, not that the site has been deleted, so I guess it's just a matter of raising the money for Christine to revive it.
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: wilros on Friday 23 April 21 05:16 BST (UK)
This useful site remains live (but maybe not for much longer) - https://public.fotki.com/rhemusaig/burial_grounds/

The fabulous photo archive formerly hosted at fotki is now inaccessible.

Anyone have any suggestions on recovering the thousands of formerly accessible burial ground posts that were so useful?

[wr]
Clicking on that link gives a message that says access is blocked, not that the site has been deleted, so I guess it's just a matter of raising the money for Christine to revive it.

Chris,

True!

I sent Chris an email on 31 March and said I was interested in helping to get the archive back on line. But there was no reply.

The email address that Angi gave me for Chris in 2019 was rhemusaig-at-gmail-dot-com.

I'm still interested in rescuing the entire archive, then backing it up offline, then migrating it to another location. Perhaps archive.org? Or maybe the content can be transformed into raw material for a genweb project? Or serialized on a free blogging site like Google's blogspot.com.

The monument transcriptions are very useful.

With best regards,

[wr]
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: meanno on Friday 23 April 21 23:47 BST (UK)
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I sent Chris an email on 31 March and said I was interested in helping to get the archive back on line. But there was no reply.

Perhaps try contacting her through her Facebook group "County Sutherland Scotland, Family History"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/180221098349/
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: wilros on Saturday 24 April 21 01:15 BST (UK)
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I sent Chris an email on 31 March and said I was interested in helping to get the archive back on line. But there was no reply.

Perhaps try contacting her through her Facebook group "County Sutherland Scotland, Family History"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/180221098349/

meanno,

as usual you are like an artesian well of good ideas, they just flow out like a force of nature...

thanks, i just "applied" to join their fb group.

:-)

[wr]
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: wilros on Friday 14 May 21 21:34 BST (UK)
To recap, Chris Stokes did not reply to the email I sent to her gmail address on 31 March, or to the later private message I sent to her on Facebook regarding the rhemusaig user account at fotki.com.

Today the Rogart Heritage Society published an announcement in the County Sutherland Scotland Family History group on Facebook titled: "CHRISTINE FINLAYSON MURRAY STOKES, 1943-2021" It is a beautifully written tribute by the Rogart Heritage Society, though not a formal obituary.

I fear the Rhemusaig Burial Grounds archive of 6,000 tombstone transcriptions and photos may be beyond reach.

[wr]
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: djct59 on Friday 14 May 21 22:57 BST (UK)
Sad to hear that both Christine and Angi have left this world. The photo archive was not only invaluable, it is genuinely irreplaceable, as every year the effects of wind, rain, lichens and frost further damage the sandstone graves, some of which are now utterly beyond legible.

Perhaps someone on Facebook could ask via the Sutherland Heritage group whether the family/families would be willing to provide the images (perhaps for a fee) to a new permanent website set up in their memory?
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: wilros on Tuesday 18 May 21 01:04 BST (UK)
Perhaps someone on Facebook could ask via the Sutherland Heritage group whether the family/families would be willing to provide the images (perhaps for a fee) to a new permanent website set up in their memory?

djct59 - I asked the new Admin of the Sutherland group on FB. She said (paraphrasing) they are aware the burial ground site is offline and planning to address it, and noted that the rich blog history by Chris Stokes is available on blogspot.com (i.e., free hosting from Google) - https://cosuthfamhistory.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: Guy Etchells on Tuesday 18 May 21 07:58 BST (UK)
The resource is available on the Wayback Machine part of the Internet Archive, https://archive.org/web/ but is password protected. If users have the password they should be able to access and open the site.
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: cuffie81 on Tuesday 18 May 21 13:05 BST (UK)
The resource is available on the Wayback Machine part of the Internet Archive, https://archive.org/web/ but is password protected. If users have the password they should be able to access and open the site.

I'm fairly sure the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine simply copies public resources (eg HTML, images, stylesheets) from websites to it's own servers. In which case it doesn't have access to any website passwords, nor even any password protected resources. So any passwords would not work on the Wayback Machine site.
Title: Re: Resource website no longer live
Post by: Chris Doran on Tuesday 18 May 21 14:14 BST (UK)
You can see some interesting bits pf the site, including thumbnails of some of the photos, without a password, but whatever guess you enter for a password just gives you "This page has not been archived". The Wayback Machine didn't have a password either!