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Title: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: margot231 on Thursday 18 July 19 05:49 BST (UK)
I am looking for any information on my great grandfather.  He lived in Canterbury and was married to Julia Hole.  Thank you if anyone can help with his parents or where they were from.
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 18 July 19 06:53 BST (UK)
Do you have George on any census?
When, and where, did he marry Julia?
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: bbart on Thursday 18 July 19 07:01 BST (UK)
I found a George Lewis Hoskin marrying a Julia Hole in 1903 on a New Zealand index. Could that be him?

You need to specify the country, as there are a LOT of Canterbury's on this planet!  :)
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 18 July 19 07:05 BST (UK)
Yes the fact that he lived in NZ is a rather important piece of missing information!

Father was William Hoskin, according to his 1902 military record (volunteering for service in South Africa).

William was his next of kin.  Address: Goldhurst, Canterbury.
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 18 July 19 08:18 BST (UK)
George Lewis & Julia   Hoskin
Electoral year   1911
Occupation/status   horse driver
Residence   159 Ollivier's Road Linwood
Electorate   Avon
Country   New Zealand
Record set   New Zealand Electoral Rolls

George Lewis & Julia   Hoskin
Electoral year   1935 / 1938
Occupation/status   Fruit Grower
Residence   Loburn
Electorate   Hurunui
Record set   New Zealand Electoral Rolls

George Lewis Hoskin
Marriage Year:   1903 New Zealand
Spouse:   Julia Hole
Folio Number:   2584

Is this his death?

George Lewis   Hoskin
Birth date   1870
Age at death   77
Registration year   1947
Registration number   1947/18106


1946 NZ Electoral Register
Buck’s Head Hotel Reefton
George Lewis & Julia Hoskin

George Lewis Hoskin
Death Date:   Jan-Feb-Mar 1947
Registration Place:   Reefton, Nelson, New Zealand
Folio Number:   765

Julia Hoskin widow
Electoral Year:   1949
Address 119 Hoon Ray Road
District:   Riccarton
Region or Province:   Canterbury

Julia  Hoskin
 Date1960 
PlaceChristchurch, New Zealand
Folio  Number244






Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: margot231 on Thursday 18 July 19 08:36 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for the great information.  Is there any link to the service record in South Africa?  We didn't know William was the father and was trying to trace a bit further back so this was very kind of you thank you all.
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 18 July 19 08:42 BST (UK)
You would need to verify info.....public tree on Anc*y has this info

George Lewis Hoskin born 1870  Ruan Major Cornwall died 1947 NZ
Parents William Hoskin bn 1831 d1903 & Elizabeth nee BRAY bn 1828 d1907

Married Julia HOLE bn NZ married 1903
Her parents
William Hole  Abt 1834 D 28 OCT 1915
Elizabeth REID Bn 28 OCT 1844 Berwickshire, Scotland D11 JUNE 1949 Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand

children of George & Julia

Gordon Wolverdeind Hoskin
Bn1903  New Zealand
D 1951 New Zealand

Donald Selwyn Hoskin
BN 23 JUL 1908 New Zealand
D 4 MAY 1981  New Zealand

Family search has Private Baptism 1878 Cornwall for
George Lewis Hoskin age 9 & some of his siblings parents William & Elizabeth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1W8-9V3

1871 census Cornwall surname Hoskings
George age 1 & family https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFV6-KBP
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 18 July 19 08:44 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for the great information.  Is there any link to the service record in South Africa?  We didn't know William was the father and was trying to trace a bit further back so this was very kind of you thank you all.

You can view record on Anc*y

New Zealand, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
George Lewis Hoskin
Enlistment Date:   4 Jan 1902
Next of Kin:   Mr William Hoskin
Next of Kin Relationship:   Father
Service Number:   SA5788
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 18 July 19 09:01 BST (UK)
If your George Lewis Hoskin was born 1870 Cornwall - 1878 baptism and marriage of William Hoskin & Elizabeth Bray can be searched here https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: margot231 on Thursday 18 July 19 09:18 BST (UK)
thank you that is so helpful and my father is very happy to have that information about his grandfather and great grandfather who he knew almost nothing about
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 18 July 19 09:37 BST (UK)
thank you that is so helpful and my father is very happy to have that information about his grandfather and great grandfather who he knew almost nothing about

You are welcome   :)

had a quick look but have not found a passenger list as to when the Hoskin family arrived in NZ
will take another look later as I’m going off line shortly
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: margot231 on Thursday 18 July 19 09:39 BST (UK)
 :D  awesome thank you :)
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 18 July 19 09:41 BST (UK)
You may already have this but just in case .....
Woodlawn Memorial Gardens Christchurch (headstone)
https://billiongraves.com/grave/person/12116744
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 18 July 19 18:28 BST (UK)
Sorry I've had no luck finding a passenger list  ???

There are several public trees on Anc*y and no passenger list for parents, birth or marriage certs and the only UK census mentioned 1861 / 1871

Picture of George’s sister Annie Elizabeth Hoskin bn1856 d1926 ,
her husband William John Lugg
pictures of 4 of their children
There’s this mention of their immigration - quote
"29 May 1875
Ship "Blair Gowrie" arrived Lyttelton 23 August 1875.
Only voyage this ship made to NZ.
This was the maiden voyage of this clipper ship., which had 430 government immigrants,
described as mostly West Country farm labourers.
Annie and Bill were married a few weeks before it left from London.
Perhaps Annie's parents were also on board."

Another tree mentions Jesse Hoskin married Sarah Keast in 1885 NZ there’s a family picture, 1886 they were resident Ellesmere, Canterbury, New Zealand

Jesse Hoskin Death Age 78
Death Date 29 Jan 1941
Sarah Hoskin Death age 77
Death date 6th April 1941
Burial Place Canterbury, North, Central, New Zealand
Cemetery Springston Public Cemetery Row L 521

Here's the details of the 1871 census Piece 2306 Folio 15 Page number 4

William Hosking   Head                      40   St Keverne, Cornwall
Elizabeth Bray Hosking   Wife      42   Ruan Major, Cornwall
Albert Henry Hosking   Son              11   St Keverne, Cornwall
Jesse Hosking   Son                       9   St Hilary, Cornwall
Emily Hosking   Daughter               7   Ruan Major, Cornwall
Sidney Hosking   Son                       6   Grade, Cornwall
George Louis Hosking   Son   1   Grade, Cornwall

I cannot find a birth entry for George Lewis/Louis Hoskin(g) on GRO indexes to confirm his mother's maiden name BRAY ???
There is this entry but NO mmn
George HOSKING Birth year   1868 Birth quarter   3
Mother's maiden name   -
District   Helston Volume   5C Page   219

Here are his siblings birth entries confirming mmn BRAY

HOSKING, ALBERT  HENRY   mmn BRAY
1860  J Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 245   

HOSKING, JESSE  mmn   BRAY
1862  J Quarter in PENZANCE  Volume 05C  Page 342   

HOSKING, EMILY mmn   BRAY
1863  D Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 237

HOSKING, SYDNEY mmn BRAY
1865  J Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 249

and the family on UK 1861 census Piece 1587 Folio 9 Page number 12

William Hosking   29
Elizabeth Hosking 33
Anne Elizabeth Hosking 5
William John Hosking   3
Edwin James Hosking   2
Albert H Hosking   1
all born St Keverne Cornwall

birth entry of these children confirm mmn BRAY

HOSKIN, ANNE  ELIZABETH mmn BRAY
1856  J Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 261   

HOSKING, WILLIAM  JOHN   mmn BRAY
1857  S Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 223   

HOSKIN, EDWIN  JAMES   mmn BRAY
1859  M Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 258   

HOSKING, ALBERT  HENRY   mmn BRAY
1860  J Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 245

census gives father William pob at St Keverne - this might be his baptism, although father not named on m/c

William Hoskin    Baptism 22 May 1831 St Keverne, Cornwall
Father:   William Hoskin Mother:   Grace
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6RWS-ZF8?i=84&cc=1769414

Here are  the Banns to William & Elizabeth's marriage
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6Q8Q-X6X?i=126&cc=1769414

and you can view their 1855 marriage cert
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6Q8Q-Z23?i=119&cc=1769414
No father named for William says deceased, father of Elizabeth, John Bray

Here’s mention of death William 1903 & Elizabeth 1907
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Elizabeth-Bray-Hoskin/26885104

It appears George's brother Edwin James Hoskin may have married in NZ 1885 Christina HAY

The Private Baptism date 10th November 1878 St Keverne Cornwall

Emily age 16
Sidney age 14
George Lewis age 9
Lois age 5
Father William HOSKIN,  occ., Lab., mother Elizabeth abode The Downs

HOSKING, LOUISA    mmn   BRAY 
1874  S Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 211

Due to these children being baptised in Cornwall it's possible that immigration year could be late 1878 and before the 1885 marriage in NZ of their sons Jesse & Edwin

Do they name both parents on a NZ marriage cert. ?


   
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: osprey on Thursday 18 July 19 19:36 BST (UK)
1851 census could explain how they met.

Carnsellon, St Keverne HO107/1913 folio 127 pg 6
Stephen Roberts head unm 55 farmer of 55 acres employing 2 labourers
Charlotte sister 52
Elizabeth Bray 21 house servant
William Hosking 20 farm servant
all born St Keverne


 ;)
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: osprey on Thursday 18 July 19 20:14 BST (UK)
think this is William in 1841

Coverack, St Keverne HO107/138/2 folio 22 pg 6
James Mildron 40
Grace 50
Wm Hoskin 10

the census is just after the couple's marriage on 27 May 1841

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o2f/

The only William Hosking burial in St Keverne between 1831 and 1841 is for William aged 70 19 Dec 1834.Coud explain why William didn't remember him. Possible marriage 27 Aug 1809 for William Hosking of St Keverne and Grace Stapleton of Mullion

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o2g/

The lack of father for Grace on 1841 marriage would fit with the St Keverne baptism 12 Dec 1790 for Grace Matthews Stapleton daughter of Elizabeth.
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: osprey on Thursday 18 July 19 20:55 BST (UK)
from the list of assisted emigrants to Lyttleton/Canterbury on the opc site

https://www.opc-cornwall.org/Resc/emigration_nz.php

On ship Boyne left 18 Nov 1878 arrived 26 Feb 1879
Elizabeth Hosking 43
Emily 15 maid servant
George L 8
Jesse 16 farm labourer
Lois 4
Sidney 13
William 42 farm labourer

Possible voyage for Edwin J Hoskin farm labourer 17 on the Carnatic 5 Nov 1877 - 1 Feb 1878 also going to Lyttleton/Canterbury
Possible for William J Hosking 21 labourer going to NSW, left Plymouth on the Earl Dalhousie arrived Sydney 7 May 1877, single man, Wesleyan, could read & write.
Albert Henry stayed in Cornwall
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: carol80 on Thursday 18 July 19 23:29 BST (UK)
There are 3 Records George Lewis Hoskin at this Link
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/SimpleSearchResults.do

The first one is his Military Personnel File which can be downloaded if you do not already have it.

Carol
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: margot231 on Friday 19 July 19 03:55 BST (UK)
oh great!  :D :D  I have been travelling back home to Auckland from visiting my father today but I will now sit down and look at this new information.   I will send him the details.  He was so happy to have this extra knowledge of his family (as am I).  Any little tidbit means a lot. Thank you very much for your help
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 19 July 19 04:11 BST (UK)
To be honest this thread is confusing as nobody is putting which County/Country to their finds as it was mentioned earlier up thread many places have same names in different Countries & saves 'googling' to find those place names.

A possible marriage?

William Henry Hole & Eliza Reid 1863 New Zealand

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q24J-LZCM

Annie
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: margot231 on Friday 19 July 19 04:14 BST (UK)
yes we are in New Zealand
Title: Re: George Lewis Hoskin born 1870
Post by: carol80 on Friday 19 July 19 05:32 BST (UK)
I am in New Zealand. I suggest for more information on the New Zealand family that you move this post to the New Zealand Board.
There are rootschat members in New Zealand that will be able to help.
If you want to move your post to the New Zealand Board just click on report to moderator and ask if they can move the post.

Carol