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Title: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Saturday 20 July 19 11:05 BST (UK)
I am needing a little bit of help trying to find William Hamilton,he was born 1918 in Harthill,Scotland and moved to Canada with his family,his parents were William Hamilton and Margaret Robertson Paterson.  I i have found out so far is that he married in Canada had a Daughter then got divorced.
  I have found  his US Border Crossing Canada  to USA document, he arrived in 1953 and Died in Nevada i 1985, going by his border crossing doc is say that he has a son William Hamilton stay in in Calgary.  I believe he married in America  and had 3 daughters but after 10 years of reseach i have found nothing.   so i would really appreciate any help i can get to close this brick wall.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: ciderdrinker on Saturday 20 July 19 11:38 BST (UK)
Hello
Here are a few snippets that may be him.
Essex New Jersey 1940
William Hamilton 48 widower born Scotland renting house natralised plumber self employed
William single 23 single born Scotland     salesman retail ??

This is the death detail for his ex second wife
Melba Jean Williams also Marx,Hamilton,and died as Moore.

Birth Date:    15 Apr 1940
Birth Place:    Delta, Colorado
Death Date:    21 Jul 1990
Father:    Melvin H Williams
Mother:    Lois A Hatch
Notes:    Aug 1953: Name listed as MELBA JEAN WILLIAMS; Nov 1959: Name listed as MELBA JEA MARX; Apr 1972: Name listed as MELBA JEA HAMILTON; 11 Oct 1978: Name listed as MELBA JEAN HAMILTON; 23 Apr 1987: Name listed as MELBA JEANNE MOORE; 04 Jun 1993: Name listed as MELBA J MOORE

His first marriage in Canada at Calgary 31 Dec 1942 to Moira Eleanor Reilly 1922-2016
There was a daughter Arleen Lyn Hamilton 1944-2004

Ciderdrinker
No sign  of them Electoral rolls
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 12:23 BST (UK)
Background info

Anc tree gives William Hamilton 1890–1976
born 5 August 1890 - Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland died 4 February 1976 -  Royal Oak, Oakland, Michigan. 
Nothing on Margaret Robinson.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 12:28 BST (UK)

Have you located an obituary for the daughter Arleen Lyn Hamilton 1944-2004 ?

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 12:43 BST (UK)
Background info

Canadian Headstones - Moira Eleanor Reilly Walsh
Cemetery:   Hillside - Burial Place Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada
Notes Arleen Lynne - 15 January 1944 - 13 April  2004 - Moira Eleanor Walsh nee Reilly  22 February, 1922 - 10 January 2016

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/168574846/moira-eleanor-walsh

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 12:48 BST (UK)
There is a Montana marriage for the daughter 29/4/1963 - parents  Moira Walsh (maiden name Reilly) spouse Lindsay C Walsh -
daughter - Arleen Lynne Walsh - aged 19 years - Hanna Alta Canada - single -  Certificate Number 63 00904 - to Gordon Daniel Miller - aged 21 years - born Eatonia Sask.

Not a daughter of William Hamilton.

Obituary - Arleen Pettet  :'(

The Vancouver Sun  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 17 Apr 2004, Sat  -  Page 45

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34053768/arleen_lynne_pettet/

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Saturday 20 July 19 14:11 BST (UK)
I don't think that's him on the 1940 cencus as he did not go to America until 1953.  The marriage to melba and not sure  as there is about 22 years age difference.  I know about his first marriage as I have spoken to Moria.  She said she did not know much about him except that he married and had a son and 3 daughters.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Saturday 20 July 19 18:22 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra, Arleen Lynn Walsh was the daughter of William Hamilton and Moria Eleanor Riley.  I spoke to Moria a fee yes back before she passed away.  She said that Arleen never got to know her father as they divorced shortly after her birth.  I started to do this research for Moira's granddaughter Dana Miller about 3 or 4 years ago as she wanted to know more about him. Unfortunately we just kept hitting brick walls.  I just fell that I need to complete what I had started in memory of Moira and Arleen.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 19:00 BST (UK)

Sorry I've found nothing positive - if nothing does materilize on here - there are a couple of RAOGK volunteers, one for Las Vegas Nevada who might be able to help - always worth an e-mail - perhaps feet on the ground could help.

https://raogk.org/lookups/region/nevada/

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Saturday 20 July 19 19:10 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra,
 Thank for all you help.  It was a long shot. Hopefully when my DNA results come back it might help.  I had a look at the tree that has the marriage to Melba Williams, they have the right date and place of birth for William but the wrong mother. I just feel that there is to big of a age gap as William born 1918 and Melba born 1940.  Hopefully I'm wrong and the in do is correct I have want them a message .
  I will send a email to the attached link that you sent and see I'd they could help.
  One day I will be able to come over to America  and Canada to complete my family tree.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 19:25 BST (UK)

Have you got the names birth years for the parents ?  Were there any other children to William Hamilton and Margaret Robertson Paterson ?
Have you found an immigration record for the family to Canada ?

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 19:46 BST (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Margaret Robertson Paterson Hamilton - 1897 - 25 May 1961 -

Cedar Valley Memorial Gardens Cedar, Nanaimo Regional District, British Columbia.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/189810168/margaret-robertson-hamilton

William Hamilton - 30 January 1896 - 25 November 1961

Cedar Valley Memorial Gardens Cedar, Nanaimo Regional District, British Columbia.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/189810287/william-hamilton

daughter Helen S Price  -

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121249845/helen-s-price

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 19:50 BST (UK)


British Columbia Death Registration - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLR2-YHC

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o2t/

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 19:54 BST (UK)

Death Certificate William Hamilton - widower - 26 November 1961 (no relationship with informant)

In Canada 1927

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/b773e313-2234-424d-a0fc-dcc247ddc022

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Saturday 20 July 19 20:00 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra,
 This is what I have got on his family his father was william Hamilton born 1896 in wishaw,Lanarkshire his mother Margaret Robertson Paterson was born 1897 in West Benhar Lanarkshire. His father was a police Constable in Scotland then the family moved to Moosejaw,Canada in 1927.
his siblings are....

Helen Sneddon Hamilton born 1920 Holytown,Lanarkshire died 2007 Nanaimo,Canada married a Thomas Price.
Elizabeth Whitelaw Hamilton b1923 Holytown,Lanarkshire  d2010 in Kelowaia,Canada married Willard Legault.
John Paterson Hamilton b 1924 Chryston,Lanarkshire  d 2006 in Naniamo,Canada not married.
Margaret Paterson Hamilton b1929 Swift current Canada d 1980 Vancouver married Douglaa Roger's.

 William Hamilton born 29 Dec 1918 Harthill,Lanarkshire  he married Moria Eleanor Reilly on the 31 Dec 1942 and had a daughter Arleen Lynn Hamilton B 1944.
  I had spoken to Moira a few years back by telephone from my home in Scotland and what she said was that they were divorce divorced shortly after their daughter was born and he disappeared. I then found in 1953 on the Border crossing Canada USA document. And it say that he has a son William Hamilton staying at 119 19th N.E Calgary Alberta. The last record I found for him was Nevada Death Index  in 1985.

 Hope this helps.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 20:03 BST (UK)
Canadian Passenger List - Mrs Margaret Hamilton aged 30 years - born Hartshill Scotland - William Hamilton born Hartshill - aged 8 years - John Hamilton aged 2 years born Chryston - Elizabeth Hamilton aged 3 years Chryston - Helen hamilton born Holytown - aged 6
Going to husband Mr William Hamilton, Swift Current Saskatchewan -
Mother Mrs J Paterson, Victoria Street Hartshill. All arriving 23/4/1927 on the Melita. Glasgow to Montreal.

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 20:03 BST (UK)
Canadian Passenger List - Mrs Margaret Hamilton aged 30 years - born Hartshill Scotland - William Hamilton born Hartshill - aged 8 years - John Hamilton aged 2 years born Chryston - Elizabeth Hamilton aged 3 years Chryston - Helen hamilton born Holytown - aged 6
Going to husband Mr William Hamilton, Swift Current Saskatchewan -
Mother Mrs J Paterson, Victoria Street Hartshill. All arriving 23/4/1927 on the Melita. Glasgow to Montreal.

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 20:04 BST (UK)
Wish you mentioned that info earlier - it would have saved alot of time.  ;)

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Saturday 20 July 19 20:08 BST (UK)
Sorry about that Sandra, I know about his siblings  I was trying to get more information on William when he came to America. It just that I could not find any thing else on him except what I had found.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 20:12 BST (UK)
But we would research and look at the siblings to see if any off the obituaries would mention or give a clue to William's whereabouts.

Have you checked to see if he is mentioned in any of the obituaries ?

I can see Margaret Paterson Rogers's - John Hamiton - brother was the informant.  It was also a cremation North Shore Crematorium - burial details are something else we check to see if there are family plots.

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Saturday 20 July 19 20:14 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra,
  He is not mentioned in any of there obituaries.  I can only assume that the family had nothing to do with him.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 20:16 BST (UK)
I can see he wasn't mention in the obituary of John Paterson Hamilton - neither is a nephew called William.

Calgary Herald  Calgary, Alberta, Canada 27 Oct 2006, Fri  -   Page 38

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34060596/john_paterson_hamilton/

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/55232656-bdf4-40f8-b0fa-2c9d9755133a

LEGAULT – Elizabeth (Bette) Whitelaw - 17 february 2010

https://www.kelownacapnews.com/obituaries/elizabeth-bette-whitelaw-legault/

Wilfred Legault - 10 February 2006

https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/obituaries/wilfred-willard-bill-legault/

Helen Sneddon (Hamilton) PRICE - 28 February 2007

https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/obituaries/helen-sneddon-hamilton-price/


Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Saturday 20 July 19 20:26 BST (UK)
I Have Contacted The Alberta Hall of Fame regarding John as i found that fascinating. I never knew about his sporting career.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 20:35 BST (UK)
Intersting that John taught in California, which is where William first headed in 1953 wasn't it ?
Infact John was in Fullerton CA in 1980 when he was the informant on his sisters death certificate.

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Saturday 20 July 19 20:45 BST (UK)
It did not notice that when i saw his sisters death cert.  I take it it not that far to where John Was and where William Was at the time of his death. I only have a extract of William death i can not seem to get a fulll death cert.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 20:53 BST (UK)
There wouldn't be a death certificate online for that time frame.

John resided in California from 13-9-1958 - had been resident for one half of the necessary 5 years for naturalization. Two other teachers called Brandt who were the witnesses on the affidavit. Known him sine 1-8- 1961
Petition granted 2 September 1966

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 20:56 BST (UK)


John P Hamilton (deceased now) was listed in U.S. Phone and Address Directories -  1993 - 1997 and 1998 - 2002 -2920 Ruby Dr Apt A Fullerton Ca

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 21:11 BST (UK)

Also a Canadian thread on the Hamilton family.............

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815865.new#new

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 21:38 BST (UK)


Did you check to see if there was a petition for naturalization in California or Nevada ?
Can't say one jumped out at me today but you would have thought he would have applied  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Saturday 20 July 19 22:02 BST (UK)
Could not find one.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 23:17 BST (UK)

The other strange thing is that all the other children have middle names but nothing noted for William  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 July 19 23:25 BST (UK)
In May 1961 when Margaret Hamilton (mother) passed away - sons William and John were in California.  Margaret had 5 grandchildren at that time.  Can we account for who had those  ???

Nanaimo Daily News  Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada 26 May 1961, Fri  -  Page 15

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34066667/margaret_paterson_hamilton/

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: polarbear on Sunday 21 July 19 01:38 BST (UK)
From obits and info provided by Buffalobill....

It looks like Elizabeth had 3 children, Helen had 1, and Wiiliam had 1.

PB
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 July 19 09:40 BST (UK)
I did notice very late that Cosmac had provided some obits on Thursday on the other thread but nothing was linked  ::)

So in 1961 in mother Margaret's obit (as above) no other grandchildren were recorded for William. William was still living in California at that time. Looked through Long Beach which is where he was intending to go in 1953 but nothing positive so far.

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 July 19 09:44 BST (UK)
Wasnt expecting to find anything new but for the record here is the obit for...........

William Hamilton - Nanaimo Daily News  Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada
27 Nov 1961, Mon  - Page 9

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34079203/william_hamilton/

There was a Wm Hamilton (active service) in Moose Jaw on the voters list for 1945 - with a Mrs Wm Hamilton. Fourth Ave North West  (making a note there was also a Moore family living next door)

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Sunday 21 July 19 09:54 BST (UK)
I have been slowly going through the obituaries and piecing the family together.
    I have also been trying to find william Naturalisation document.  So far nothing.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 July 19 10:07 BST (UK)
William Hamitlon Jnr was a salesman on the 1953 border crossing. gave his last address as 600 Burrard Vancouver.  This appears to be Empire Motors Ltd.,

The Vancouver Sun  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 19 Jan 1952, Sat  -   Page 42

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34079321/600_burrard_street_vancouver_1952/

Sandra

Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Sunday 21 July 19 10:20 BST (UK)
Why would he give the addresses of a company as his last know address.   I have also trying to find information of his son William he mention staying at 129 18th N.E Calgary.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 July 19 10:30 BST (UK)

William was single, perhaps moved from lodging house to lodging house - a roomer.

The address he was going to was 1633 American Long beach California.

In 1955 a guy called Bob Ballack started a car business at Harbor Lincoln/Mercury at 1633 American Ave., just a block up from Salta Pontiac and Beryl Berry Plymouth and tons of used car dealers. It was truly Automobile Row all the way to Willow Street.

Long Beach, City Directory, 1955 - William Hamilton - salesman - Salta Pontiac - h538d Locust   ???

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 July 19 10:33 BST (UK)
Why would he give the addresses of a company as his last know address.   I have also trying to find information of his son William he mention staying at 129 18th N.E Calgary.

Perhaps it should say son of ..................and that is his father.
Although we know William Hamilton Snr was in Moose Jaw 1927 until possibly 1947 and then in Vancouver for B C Telelphone Co, before he passed in Nanaimo.

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 21 July 19 10:34 BST (UK)


https://www.apartments.com/1538-locust-ave-long-beach-ca/n1fwn1q/

Sandra
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Sunday 21 July 19 10:39 BST (UK)
 So I assume that william would probably have settled down in that area until his death.
  i am struggling to find any thing on the son he mentions.  How was he staying with as he would only be about 8-10 years old. I have nothing coming  up with that address.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: Buffalobill on Sunday 21 July 19 10:49 BST (UK)
So I assume that william would probably have settled down in that area until his death.
  i am struggling to find any thing on the son he mentions.  How was he staying with as he would only be about 8-10 years old. I have nothing coming  up with that address.


I think you are right. Just had another look at his documents.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: hammann1918 on Wednesday 30 September 20 23:00 BST (UK)
BUFFALOBILL - WILLIAM HAMILTON Born 1918, Harthill, Scotland, was my father.  I'm very intrigued of our potential family connection.
Title: Re: William Hamilton b1918 Harthill
Post by: peggyleg on Tuesday 26 January 21 23:03 GMT (UK)
I am needing a little bit of help trying to find William Hamilton,he was born 1918 in Harthill,Scotland and moved to Canada with his family,his parents were William Hamilton and Margaret Robertson Paterson.  I i have found out so far is that he married in Canada had a Daughter then got divorced.
  I have found  his US Border Crossing Canada  to USA document, he arrived in 1953 and Died in Nevada i 1985, going by his border crossing doc is say that he has a son William Hamilton stay in in Calgary.  I believe he married in America  and had 3 daughters but after 10 years of reseach i have found nothing.   so i would really appreciate any help i can get to close this brick wall.
Hi Buffalobill. William [Uncle Willy] was my uncle on my mothers side. Uncle willy had a son named bill who died in new denvor bc. He was the son of uncle willy and his then wife geneva. He met her in italy and brought her and billy back to canada [gene] He also had 3 daughters, Paris, Mechelle and rhena  They were the daughters of uncle willy and jennie. Uncle willy was living in los vegas when he passed. Not sure of the date.  He had as far as I know 2 other wives [1st]Moira whom I never met, they had a daughter arleen who passed in 2004 and blanch she I was told was a model.