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I am needing a little bit of help trying to find William Hamilton,he was born 1918 in Harthill,Scotland and moved to Canada with his family,his parents were William Hamilton and Margaret Robertson Paterson. I i have found out so far is that he married in Canada had a Daughter then got divorced.
I have found his US Border Crossing Canada to USA document, he arrived in 1953 and Died in Nevada i 1985, going by his border crossing doc is say that he has a son William Hamilton stay in in Calgary. I believe he married in America and had 3 daughters but after 10 years of reseach i have found nothing. so i would really appreciate any help i can get to close this brick wall.
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Hello
Here are a few snippets that may be him.
Essex New Jersey 1940
William Hamilton 48 widower born Scotland renting house natralised plumber self employed
William single 23 single born Scotland salesman retail ??
This is the death detail for his ex second wife
Melba Jean Williams also Marx,Hamilton,and died as Moore.
Birth Date: 15 Apr 1940
Birth Place: Delta, Colorado
Death Date: 21 Jul 1990
Father: Melvin H Williams
Mother: Lois A Hatch
Notes: Aug 1953: Name listed as MELBA JEAN WILLIAMS; Nov 1959: Name listed as MELBA JEA MARX; Apr 1972: Name listed as MELBA JEA HAMILTON; 11 Oct 1978: Name listed as MELBA JEAN HAMILTON; 23 Apr 1987: Name listed as MELBA JEANNE MOORE; 04 Jun 1993: Name listed as MELBA J MOORE
His first marriage in Canada at Calgary 31 Dec 1942 to Moira Eleanor Reilly 1922-2016
There was a daughter Arleen Lyn Hamilton 1944-2004
Ciderdrinker
No sign of them Electoral rolls
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Background info
Anc tree gives William Hamilton 1890–1976
born 5 August 1890 - Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland died 4 February 1976 - Royal Oak, Oakland, Michigan.
Nothing on Margaret Robinson.
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Have you located an obituary for the daughter Arleen Lyn Hamilton 1944-2004 ?
Sandra
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Background info
Canadian Headstones - Moira Eleanor Reilly Walsh
Cemetery: Hillside - Burial Place Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada
Notes Arleen Lynne - 15 January 1944 - 13 April 2004 - Moira Eleanor Walsh nee Reilly 22 February, 1922 - 10 January 2016
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/168574846/moira-eleanor-walsh
Sandra
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There is a Montana marriage for the daughter 29/4/1963 - parents Moira Walsh (maiden name Reilly) spouse Lindsay C Walsh -
daughter - Arleen Lynne Walsh - aged 19 years - Hanna Alta Canada - single - Certificate Number 63 00904 - to Gordon Daniel Miller - aged 21 years - born Eatonia Sask.
Not a daughter of William Hamilton.
Obituary - Arleen Pettet :'(
The Vancouver Sun Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 17 Apr 2004, Sat - Page 45
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34053768/arleen_lynne_pettet/
Sandra
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I don't think that's him on the 1940 cencus as he did not go to America until 1953. The marriage to melba and not sure as there is about 22 years age difference. I know about his first marriage as I have spoken to Moria. She said she did not know much about him except that he married and had a son and 3 daughters.
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Hi Sandra, Arleen Lynn Walsh was the daughter of William Hamilton and Moria Eleanor Riley. I spoke to Moria a fee yes back before she passed away. She said that Arleen never got to know her father as they divorced shortly after her birth. I started to do this research for Moira's granddaughter Dana Miller about 3 or 4 years ago as she wanted to know more about him. Unfortunately we just kept hitting brick walls. I just fell that I need to complete what I had started in memory of Moira and Arleen.
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Sorry I've found nothing positive - if nothing does materilize on here - there are a couple of RAOGK volunteers, one for Las Vegas Nevada who might be able to help - always worth an e-mail - perhaps feet on the ground could help.
https://raogk.org/lookups/region/nevada/
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thank for all you help. It was a long shot. Hopefully when my DNA results come back it might help. I had a look at the tree that has the marriage to Melba Williams, they have the right date and place of birth for William but the wrong mother. I just feel that there is to big of a age gap as William born 1918 and Melba born 1940. Hopefully I'm wrong and the in do is correct I have want them a message .
I will send a email to the attached link that you sent and see I'd they could help.
One day I will be able to come over to America and Canada to complete my family tree.
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Have you got the names birth years for the parents ? Were there any other children to William Hamilton and Margaret Robertson Paterson ?
Have you found an immigration record for the family to Canada ?
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Margaret Robertson Paterson Hamilton - 1897 - 25 May 1961 -
Cedar Valley Memorial Gardens Cedar, Nanaimo Regional District, British Columbia.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/189810168/margaret-robertson-hamilton
William Hamilton - 30 January 1896 - 25 November 1961
Cedar Valley Memorial Gardens Cedar, Nanaimo Regional District, British Columbia.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/189810287/william-hamilton
daughter Helen S Price -
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121249845/helen-s-price
Sandra
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British Columbia Death Registration - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLR2-YHC
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o2t/
Sandra
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Death Certificate William Hamilton - widower - 26 November 1961 (no relationship with informant)
In Canada 1927
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/b773e313-2234-424d-a0fc-dcc247ddc022
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
This is what I have got on his family his father was william Hamilton born 1896 in wishaw,Lanarkshire his mother Margaret Robertson Paterson was born 1897 in West Benhar Lanarkshire. His father was a police Constable in Scotland then the family moved to Moosejaw,Canada in 1927.
his siblings are....
Helen Sneddon Hamilton born 1920 Holytown,Lanarkshire died 2007 Nanaimo,Canada married a Thomas Price.
Elizabeth Whitelaw Hamilton b1923 Holytown,Lanarkshire d2010 in Kelowaia,Canada married Willard Legault.
John Paterson Hamilton b 1924 Chryston,Lanarkshire d 2006 in Naniamo,Canada not married.
Margaret Paterson Hamilton b1929 Swift current Canada d 1980 Vancouver married Douglaa Roger's.
William Hamilton born 29 Dec 1918 Harthill,Lanarkshire he married Moria Eleanor Reilly on the 31 Dec 1942 and had a daughter Arleen Lynn Hamilton B 1944.
I had spoken to Moira a few years back by telephone from my home in Scotland and what she said was that they were divorce divorced shortly after their daughter was born and he disappeared. I then found in 1953 on the Border crossing Canada USA document. And it say that he has a son William Hamilton staying at 119 19th N.E Calgary Alberta. The last record I found for him was Nevada Death Index in 1985.
Hope this helps.
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Canadian Passenger List - Mrs Margaret Hamilton aged 30 years - born Hartshill Scotland - William Hamilton born Hartshill - aged 8 years - John Hamilton aged 2 years born Chryston - Elizabeth Hamilton aged 3 years Chryston - Helen hamilton born Holytown - aged 6
Going to husband Mr William Hamilton, Swift Current Saskatchewan -
Mother Mrs J Paterson, Victoria Street Hartshill. All arriving 23/4/1927 on the Melita. Glasgow to Montreal.
Sandra
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Canadian Passenger List - Mrs Margaret Hamilton aged 30 years - born Hartshill Scotland - William Hamilton born Hartshill - aged 8 years - John Hamilton aged 2 years born Chryston - Elizabeth Hamilton aged 3 years Chryston - Helen hamilton born Holytown - aged 6
Going to husband Mr William Hamilton, Swift Current Saskatchewan -
Mother Mrs J Paterson, Victoria Street Hartshill. All arriving 23/4/1927 on the Melita. Glasgow to Montreal.
Sandra
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Wish you mentioned that info earlier - it would have saved alot of time. ;)
Sandra
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Sorry about that Sandra, I know about his siblings I was trying to get more information on William when he came to America. It just that I could not find any thing else on him except what I had found.
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But we would research and look at the siblings to see if any off the obituaries would mention or give a clue to William's whereabouts.
Have you checked to see if he is mentioned in any of the obituaries ?
I can see Margaret Paterson Rogers's - John Hamiton - brother was the informant. It was also a cremation North Shore Crematorium - burial details are something else we check to see if there are family plots.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
He is not mentioned in any of there obituaries. I can only assume that the family had nothing to do with him.
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I can see he wasn't mention in the obituary of John Paterson Hamilton - neither is a nephew called William.
Calgary Herald Calgary, Alberta, Canada 27 Oct 2006, Fri - Page 38
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34060596/john_paterson_hamilton/
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/55232656-bdf4-40f8-b0fa-2c9d9755133a
LEGAULT – Elizabeth (Bette) Whitelaw - 17 february 2010
https://www.kelownacapnews.com/obituaries/elizabeth-bette-whitelaw-legault/
Wilfred Legault - 10 February 2006
https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/obituaries/wilfred-willard-bill-legault/
Helen Sneddon (Hamilton) PRICE - 28 February 2007
https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/obituaries/helen-sneddon-hamilton-price/
Sandra
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I Have Contacted The Alberta Hall of Fame regarding John as i found that fascinating. I never knew about his sporting career.
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Intersting that John taught in California, which is where William first headed in 1953 wasn't it ?
Infact John was in Fullerton CA in 1980 when he was the informant on his sisters death certificate.
Sandra
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It did not notice that when i saw his sisters death cert. I take it it not that far to where John Was and where William Was at the time of his death. I only have a extract of William death i can not seem to get a fulll death cert.
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There wouldn't be a death certificate online for that time frame.
John resided in California from 13-9-1958 - had been resident for one half of the necessary 5 years for naturalization. Two other teachers called Brandt who were the witnesses on the affidavit. Known him sine 1-8- 1961
Petition granted 2 September 1966
Sandra
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John P Hamilton (deceased now) was listed in U.S. Phone and Address Directories - 1993 - 1997 and 1998 - 2002 -2920 Ruby Dr Apt A Fullerton Ca
Sandra
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Also a Canadian thread on the Hamilton family.............
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815865.new#new
Sandra
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Did you check to see if there was a petition for naturalization in California or Nevada ?
Can't say one jumped out at me today but you would have thought he would have applied ???
Sandra
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Could not find one.
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The other strange thing is that all the other children have middle names but nothing noted for William ???
Sandra
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In May 1961 when Margaret Hamilton (mother) passed away - sons William and John were in California. Margaret had 5 grandchildren at that time. Can we account for who had those ???
Nanaimo Daily News Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada 26 May 1961, Fri - Page 15
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34066667/margaret_paterson_hamilton/
Sandra
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From obits and info provided by Buffalobill....
It looks like Elizabeth had 3 children, Helen had 1, and Wiiliam had 1.
PB
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I did notice very late that Cosmac had provided some obits on Thursday on the other thread but nothing was linked ::)
So in 1961 in mother Margaret's obit (as above) no other grandchildren were recorded for William. William was still living in California at that time. Looked through Long Beach which is where he was intending to go in 1953 but nothing positive so far.
Sandra
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Wasnt expecting to find anything new but for the record here is the obit for...........
William Hamilton - Nanaimo Daily News Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada
27 Nov 1961, Mon - Page 9
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34079203/william_hamilton/
There was a Wm Hamilton (active service) in Moose Jaw on the voters list for 1945 - with a Mrs Wm Hamilton. Fourth Ave North West (making a note there was also a Moore family living next door)
Sandra
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I have been slowly going through the obituaries and piecing the family together.
I have also been trying to find william Naturalisation document. So far nothing.
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William Hamitlon Jnr was a salesman on the 1953 border crossing. gave his last address as 600 Burrard Vancouver. This appears to be Empire Motors Ltd.,
The Vancouver Sun Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 19 Jan 1952, Sat - Page 42
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34079321/600_burrard_street_vancouver_1952/
Sandra
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Why would he give the addresses of a company as his last know address. I have also trying to find information of his son William he mention staying at 129 18th N.E Calgary.
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William was single, perhaps moved from lodging house to lodging house - a roomer.
The address he was going to was 1633 American Long beach California.
In 1955 a guy called Bob Ballack started a car business at Harbor Lincoln/Mercury at 1633 American Ave., just a block up from Salta Pontiac and Beryl Berry Plymouth and tons of used car dealers. It was truly Automobile Row all the way to Willow Street.
Long Beach, City Directory, 1955 - William Hamilton - salesman - Salta Pontiac - h538d Locust ???
Sandra
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Why would he give the addresses of a company as his last know address. I have also trying to find information of his son William he mention staying at 129 18th N.E Calgary.
Perhaps it should say son of ..................and that is his father.
Although we know William Hamilton Snr was in Moose Jaw 1927 until possibly 1947 and then in Vancouver for B C Telelphone Co, before he passed in Nanaimo.
Sandra
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https://www.apartments.com/1538-locust-ave-long-beach-ca/n1fwn1q/
Sandra
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So I assume that william would probably have settled down in that area until his death.
i am struggling to find any thing on the son he mentions. How was he staying with as he would only be about 8-10 years old. I have nothing coming up with that address.
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So I assume that william would probably have settled down in that area until his death.
i am struggling to find any thing on the son he mentions. How was he staying with as he would only be about 8-10 years old. I have nothing coming up with that address.
I think you are right. Just had another look at his documents.
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BUFFALOBILL - WILLIAM HAMILTON Born 1918, Harthill, Scotland, was my father. I'm very intrigued of our potential family connection.
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I am needing a little bit of help trying to find William Hamilton,he was born 1918 in Harthill,Scotland and moved to Canada with his family,his parents were William Hamilton and Margaret Robertson Paterson. I i have found out so far is that he married in Canada had a Daughter then got divorced.
I have found his US Border Crossing Canada to USA document, he arrived in 1953 and Died in Nevada i 1985, going by his border crossing doc is say that he has a son William Hamilton stay in in Calgary. I believe he married in America and had 3 daughters but after 10 years of reseach i have found nothing. so i would really appreciate any help i can get to close this brick wall.
Hi Buffalobill. William [Uncle Willy] was my uncle on my mothers side. Uncle willy had a son named bill who died in new denvor bc. He was the son of uncle willy and his then wife geneva. He met her in italy and brought her and billy back to canada [gene] He also had 3 daughters, Paris, Mechelle and rhena They were the daughters of uncle willy and jennie. Uncle willy was living in los vegas when he passed. Not sure of the date. He had as far as I know 2 other wives [1st]Moira whom I never met, they had a daughter arleen who passed in 2004 and blanch she I was told was a model.