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Title: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: waswigg on Friday 09 August 19 11:52 BST (UK)
High I am trying to find a birh record of John Pittey born Exeter,Devonsire 1849 ,I can find it on census but it does not give father or mothers name which is what I really need
many thanks if some one can help me
waswigg
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 09 August 19 11:58 BST (UK)
I can find it on census but it does not give father or mothers name which is what I really need
many thanks if some one can help me


It would help us if you gave us the information from this census including reference
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: waswigg on Friday 09 August 19 13:08 BST (UK)
I found his family on the 1891 census RG12/1887
he was an agriculturer
many thanks waswigg
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 09 August 19 13:43 BST (UK)
Details from that census . RG12/   1887 f46 p5

John was age 41 born Exeter, Devon - Married to Elizabeth age 40 born Brecon, Wales

Children
John 18 bn Curragh Camp, Ireland
Joseph 16 bn Channel Islands
Mary Ann 14, Elizabeth 11 and James 9 all born India
William 7, Edward 5 & Thomas 4 all born Somerset. (Mothers mmn LEWIS on birth registrations)

Militia records confirm Exeter as place of birth

Somerset births give mmn Lewis

This marriage would give details of father
Marriages June qtr 1870   
Lewis    Elizabeth       
PITTY    John       
Brecknock    11b   182
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: DOB7 on Friday 09 August 19 16:46 BST (UK)
There are military records for a John PITTEY from Exeter, who was discharged unfit in 1888. He was in the Somerset Light Infantry.
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 09 August 19 16:51 BST (UK)
I cannot find a corresponding birth given the years suggested in  Devon or on nearest census to birth 1851

Having put John in the search for 1851 there are no Pittey/Pitty families

Having looked at 1891 it appears he was abroad from about 1872-1882 with the military

John's marriage cert would be a good idea

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 09 August 19 17:11 BST (UK)
It would appear the surname changes as will Pitty/Pittey

on 1901 he states he was born Catcott

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 09 August 19 17:17 BST (UK)
There are a few Patey's in Exeter area.  Accents could change the spelling quite easily  ;D
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 11 August 19 21:40 BST (UK)
Hi, 1871 Wales census ref rg10 5580 90 31. this shows Elizabeth PITTY & Winifred aged 1 month (gro mmn Lewis)

John
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 11 August 19 22:11 BST (UK)

John Pittey
Age:    19
Birth Place:    Exeter
Desertion    15 Jun 1870, Brecon
Publication Date:    22 Jul 1870
Regimental Number:    1942
Military Corps:    6th Foot


Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 11 August 19 22:17 BST (UK)
A tree on Ancestry suggests this is John, in Catcott, Somerset

Jacob Lee    44
Elizabeth Lee    16
Thomas Grant    44
Joseph Petty    30 - lodger b Erdington
Elizabeth Petty    27 b Exeter
John Petty    4 - b Yeovil
Elizabeth Petty    1 - b Catcott

HO107, 1925, 615, 6
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 12 August 19 08:12 BST (UK)
Hi, 1871 Wales census ref rg10 5580 90 31. this shows Elizabeth PITTY & Winifred aged 1 month (gro mmn Lewis)

John

Following on from this the GRO 'Armed Forces & Overseas' birth register has

Pittey - all listed as 12th Regt
Winifred 1871 (Brecon)
John 1872 (Curragh)
Joseph 1875 (Kasauli)
Mary A 1877 (Kasauli)
Elizabeth J 1879 (Dagshai)
Robert J 1881 (Rankhet)
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: waswigg on Monday 12 August 19 10:57 BST (UK)
winifred was the daghter,I have sent for marriage cert too find fathers name ofjohn
many thanks waswigg
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 12 August 19 11:01 BST (UK)
Let us know when it arrives  :)
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: waswigg on Monday 12 August 19 11:07 BST (UK)
Will do
many thanks to all fof help
waswigg
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 12 August 19 11:14 BST (UK)
With regards to Census posted by Mabel from a Tree;

John PATEY Baptised 09 Aug 1847, Holy Trinity, Yeovil, Somerset
Parents JOSEPH/ELIZABETH
Father a Labourer
Abode Park St

1861 Joseph is Widowed.

There is a LOUISA Jane Bapt Catcott to them also 17 Jul 1855
She was likely buried 17 Jan 1856, no age given
GRO Death Reg has her age 0 (under 1)

ELIZABETH Petty buried 19 Aug 1855 age 31***

Birth Reg;
PETTY, LOUISA  JANE, Mothers mn BULL***** 
GRO Reference: 1855  S Quarter in BRIDGEWATER  Volume 05C  Page 413


Another child;
PETTY, HARRIET mmn   BULL 
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in BRIDGWATER  Volume 05C  Page 493
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 12 August 19 11:37 BST (UK)
JOSEPH Petty was Bapt 3 Dec 1822 St George, Edington, Mother ELIZABETH (baseborn)

Elizabeth married James LEE 29 Jan 1824 Moorlinch (Ann Petty a witness)

All Bapt/Burials etc I have posted are on FreeREG

Trish :)
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 12 August 19 21:13 BST (UK)
There's an M Petty b c1848 in Bridgwater Worokhouse in 1861 (fenale)

Harriott Petty is a boarder with Ann Lee and family in Catcott

Wondering if this is M Petty, although age out

PETTY, MARY  ANN
mmn      BULL     
Q1  1850  BRIDGWATER UNION  Volume 10  Page 366
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 12 August 19 21:18 BST (UK)
With regards to Census posted by Mabel from a Tree;

There is a LOUISA Jane Bapt Catcott to them also 17 Jul 1855
She was likely buried 17 Jan 1856, no age given
GRO Death Reg has her age 0 (under 1)


One version of the burial record gives her age as 8 months
Title: Re: Help with finding John Pittey
Post by: waswigg on Tuesday 13 August 19 10:59 BST (UK)
I am getting some great feedback  and all is helping a lot
many thanks waswigg