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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: 3473peter on Monday 12 August 19 19:59 BST (UK)
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hi, everyone, not been on for a while, but need your help again, I am looking for Louisa Becker born 1832, I think I have found her on the 1861 census living tower hamlets as a lodger and charwoman, however born in Prussia? Now if I am barking up the right tree, can you help me find her birth place and marriage to John/Johan Biever/beever/beewer, occupation carpenter/cabnate maker/in-prison? I have had help in the past re workhouse in the 1870s, I am also hitting brick walls with him? I also feel there is a german/dutch connection? I hope you can help, ps the maiden name becker is on Hannah Sophia beewer birth certificate and other children in the family so feel I am on the right lines and have been looking for years! thank you everyone for your help, Peter
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So we start from here? (1861)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-F1YH
That gal is single on the transcription, and I suspect she weds Adolph Martin Theodor Linderberg(or similar) later in 1861
is this the 1871?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFJ6-4FT
BECKER, FREDERICK HARRY HALM 1864 D Quarter in FALMOUTH UNION Volume 05C Page 201
PS I have NO idea who this " Hannah Sophia beewer" is.
If there was a previous post you really need to provide a a link to it
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Found the last post
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o70/
Was unsure if you had found this
1871 as Leaver
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB8P-BDS
John Leaver Head 41 Germany cabinet maker
Louisa Leaver Wife 40 Germany
Sophia Leaver Dau 7 Whitechapel
Minia Leaver Dau 5 Whitechapel
Louisa Leaver Dau Female 4 Whitechapel
Lerdo Leaver Dau Female 1
GRO births
BEEWER, HANNAH SOPHIA BECKER
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 403
BEAVER, DOROTHEA WILHELMINA BECKER
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C Page 424
BEAVER, MARIE LOUISA BECKER
GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 555
BEAVER, CATHERINE BECKER
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST Volume 01C
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There's this marriage
Louisa Becker to Johnann Bearer or Richard Matthews
SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST Q1 1865
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Just looked up Richard Matthews and his London marriage online just happens to be below John and Louisa
Transcribed as Bearn
31 Jan 1865 St Matthew, Stepney, Tower Hamlets
John cabinet maker father Matthew labourer
Louisa father Heinrich Becker locksmith
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hi willsy, Pauline j, thank you so much for this, its brilliant, I hope you get this message, very kind of you to help me find these people, Hannah Sophia married my gt grandfather and for years I have been trying to find these bievers? or what ever? keep in touch and again a big thank you. peter.
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Message received Peter!
Glad it all helps
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hi again, any idea what happened to the Beckers and Bievers as I have totally lost the plot searching these persons, I have received their nationalities = German, marriage = 1865, census 1871 = Leaver, but I can not find any deaths or information on their fathers = Johann and Heinrich, any help would be appreciated, thank you Peter
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Looking at the workhouse records, Ellen Biever is discharged to Mrs Woods step daughter in 1911 at 4 Eclipse Road, Woods from your other thread...
1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWF7-QJX
1911 Ellen Biever
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All I can find so far is a death for Ellen Biever 1914
and a death to note
John Biever 64 Q3 1895 Shoreditch 1c/96
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Just realised you have 1895, do you have a death certificate?
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Hi Willsy, well I knew of a Ellen Biever/Beaver/Beever and I feel she was a 2nd marriage to John/Johann Biever, as a long time in the past I came across Ellen, she was then in a workhouse on the 1911 census, her death was around 1914? I was 99% sure Ellen was Johns 2nd wife, with your find the workhouse document re Mrs Woods step daughter and this being my Gt grandmother Hannah Sophia Beewer/Biever born 1863/4 mother Louisa Becker, known to the Woods family as Sophia Anna Woods, 1911 census 4 Eclipse road So the search is on now for Louisa`s death and the marriage of John and Ellen. Louisa and her daughters were in a workhouse around 1875? John was stated as being in prison, so Louisa must have died between 1875? and 1895?, where John would have married Ellen. well Willsy you have opened up a can of worms and looks like WE will be busy finding deaths and marriages. Its all in the name spellings? and I only have ancestryuk. thanks again for your time and help, it is much appreciated, regards Peter.
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Just realised you have 1895, do you have a death certificate?
No, but posted a reply?
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Hi Peter
AVM228 did post a marriage on the other thread, marriage to Ellen Landers Whitechapel 1882 which is online.
Am looking at both marriages but not sure what to say as I can't work out the names signed for John/Johan and the same for the first witness on his 1862 marriage...father is Mathias (apologies for my slip up)
The second marriage John as batchelor cabinet maker, father Matthew Desc., occupations the same but x by all signatures.
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Hi Peter
AVM228 did post a marriage on the other thread, marriage to Ellen Landers Whitechapel 1882 which is online.
Am looking at both marriages but not sure what to say as I can't work out the names signed for John/Johan and the same for the first witness on his 1862 marriage...father is Mathias (apologies for my slip up)
The second marriage John as batchelor cabinet maker, father Matthew Desc., occupations the same but x by all signatures.
Hi Willsy, its definitely a match, but I can not find Louisa`s death? Where on earth do you get your info re looking at both marriages, what websites? I struggle with ancestry! thanks again and all the best. Peter
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They are both on the website you have in the London marriages. To easily find them, use the ladies names with exact date of marriage.
A search for Ellen Biever brings up all the workhouse house records for her if you need to check all the discharge records.
I can't find anything 1881 so am a bit stumped for Louisa to be sure of when she died.