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Title: Ernest James Smith
Post by: DIANA60 on Sunday 25 August 19 15:20 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find the marriage of Ernest James Smith, I have him in 1939 Census & his wife being Dorothy Smith nee Norton, living in Bromsgrove but I can't find their marriage. They had a daughter i believe born 1943.they where older parents. Ernest was born 1890 & his wife 1894.
Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 25 August 19 15:35 BST (UK)
Could you please list the others who are living with them on the 1939 Register
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 25 August 19 15:36 BST (UK)
Had Ernest been married before do you know?

Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: DIANA60 on Sunday 25 August 19 15:40 BST (UK)
Ernest Smith born 1890
Dorothy Smith 1 Sept 1894
Ivan Smith 25 Oct 1937 think he was adopted
Doris Cooper 14 Sept 1899 widow
Lilian Cooper 17 Feb 1921
Ronald Cooper 2 August 1924

29, Churchfields Close
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: DIANA60 on Sunday 25 August 19 15:41 BST (UK)
I did wonder that but couldn't find anything
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: MaureeninNY on Sunday 25 August 19 15:42 BST (UK)
Do you have the birth cert for S?

Maureeb
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 25 August 19 15:43 BST (UK)
Ernest Smith born 1890
Dorothy Smith 1 Sept 1894
Ivan Smith 25 Oct 1937 think he was adopted
Doris Cooper 14 Sept 1899 widow
Lilian Cooper 17 Feb 1921
Ronald Cooper 2 August 1924

29, Churchfields Close

Thank you, I wondered where Ivan fitted in  :)
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 25 August 19 15:47 BST (UK)
Ronald Cooper I think has mothers maiden name Norton to link the families together. 

Maybe Doris and Dorothy were sisters. 
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: DIANA60 on Sunday 25 August 19 15:49 BST (UK)
Yes I have a birth certificate for S, her mother named as Dorothy Norton
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: DIANA60 on Sunday 25 August 19 15:50 BST (UK)
Yes I did think Ronalds Mother was a link
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 25 August 19 15:51 BST (UK)
Ronald Cooper I think has mothers maiden name Norton to link the families together.

Lilian also mmn Norton but 1922 Bedwelty not 1921.
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 25 August 19 15:55 BST (UK)
I can see a Doris Norton marriage to a Cooper (Edgar in Bedwelty Dec 1915) but not a Dorothy Norton marriage - is it possible she was married in between so the marriage to E J Smith wouldn't be under Norton  :-\
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: DIANA60 on Sunday 25 August 19 16:00 BST (UK)
Thank you, yes I did find a marriage for Doris but can't find connection between Doris & Dorothy as both where a Norton
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 25 August 19 16:08 BST (UK)
Is it possible to find Doris or Dorothy on a census as children.  They should both be on the 1901 if birth dates are correct. 

Stumbling block is where were they born.  Wales perhaps as Doris married there.

Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: DIANA60 on Sunday 25 August 19 16:13 BST (UK)
I will check that out thank you
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 25 August 19 16:17 BST (UK)
I don't think they are sisters

NORTON, DOROTHY       mmn BLANEY 
GRO Reference: 1894  S Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 1062
Parents Frederick and Emma

Quite possibly Doris M
NORTON, DORIS  MABEL     mmn PRICE 
1899  Dec Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 368
or
NORTON, DORIS  MARY     mmn SCAPLEHORN 
1899  Sept Quarter in ST. SAVIOUR SOUTHWARK LONDON  Volume 01D  Page 157
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: DIANA60 on Sunday 25 August 19 16:21 BST (UK)
Oh that's great thank you!
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 25 August 19 16:24 BST (UK)
A family tree has the Bromsgrove Doris marrying Ernest Cooper and there is a sister Lilian same mothers name Price which would tie in with her naming a daughter Lilian Cooper. 

No corresponding Dorothy to make her a sister, cousin maybe.
Title: Re: Ernest James Smith
Post by: DIANA60 on Sunday 25 August 19 16:25 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone for your help